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Difficulty: Expert Tuesday, September 23, 2008

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CHAT LOG for Tuesday, September 23, 2008

12:18 am
DarleenMB

done.
12:53 am
WHB

Done
12:55 am
trueheart11

go
1:30 am
trueheart11

done. no greens
2:13 am
eyeman

if you're careful, it's easy.
2:14 am
eyeman

Done.
2:41 am
showtime

go
3:30 am
showtime

done
3:30 am
showtime

expert is expert
4:14 am
yul

good morning
4:17 am
Phil

start
4:26 am
Phil

gone green
4:41 am
Phil

done
5:27 am
BoredByPolitics

Done, with green, very satisfying to complete it.
5:40 am
kixx

go
5:45 am
kaosangel

Morning. Go.
5:59 am
kaosangel

Done. No Greens. Though I had an educated guess in the middle.
6:36 am
kixx

done, with greens
8:06 am
ypsigirl

done
8:57 am
Inge

Has anyone noticed that 9/22 is not in the archives? I did not get credit for solving it either
9:17 am
spreadeagle

Hi Inge, I agree, 9-22 is not there. But I have no idea if I got credit.
9:19 am
Inge

I know I did not get credit, since I solved it only yesterday and kept track of my totals
9:20 am
spreadeagle

How are you doing on today's puzzle?
9:20 am
Inge

I am stumped, so I am doing other stuff, like 9/7
9:21 am
spreadeagle

I'm at 9 filled, going green now
9:24 am
Inge

well, 9/22 escapes me as well. So I will do housework for a while.
9:25 am
spreadeagle

Somedays it's like that.....
9:28 am
Inge

eyeman just e-mailed me that today's is relatively easy. haha
9:29 am
spreadeagle

It might be, but I have an uncanny knack of overlooking the obvious :-)
9:30 am
drwho

That's what my program says, difficulty score 33. But I have not solved it yet.
9:30 am
Inge

OK, I am going for the vacuum cleaner. BBL
9:31 am
spreadeagle

Hi Doc, 33? We'll see.......
9:31 am
drwho

Okay, I just made a break through, I think.
9:32 am
drwho

It does seem harder than a 33.
9:34 am
spreadeagle

I'm starting over to see if I missed something...
9:34 am
drwho

The big break through got me 3 more, now I'm up to 12 filled in.
9:34 am
spreadeagle

I was at 10
9:42 am
spreadeagle

Right back to where I was...
10:00 am
UDbmas

7 so far... not my most auspicious start...
10:01 am
bauhaus

gosh. i unlike earlier comment did not find today's easy. relieved its finished. greens everywhere. very healthy
10:17 am
gman

9 so far scanning, scanning
10:21 am
spreadeagle

Done with greens and 1 guess :-(
10:29 am
UDbmas

going green
10:34 am
drwho

I think I have found the big break through. We shall see.
10:37 am
drwho

Yes!!!
10:37 am
UDbmas

WTG
10:39 am
drwho

My scoring algorithm is deficient for puzzles like this. It doesn't properly estimate the difficulty of making the big break through. Once the break through is made everything just falls into place.
10:41 am
UDbmas

Don't kick yourself too hard...I figure if you are still working it at 11 AM, it's, um... tough.
10:41 am
UDbmas

Sry...I am on EDT...
10:41 am
gman

dr did you green it?? Was a y wing the break out solution??
10:42 am
narrativium

green got me from 8 to 10, then two strategic guesses nailed it
10:43 am
drwho

Yes, I greened it. No I didn't find a y wing (but I never look for them).
10:43 am
gman

I'm at 13 with greens--trying not to guess
10:44 am
drwho

I use alternating inference chains, y-wings, xy chains, simple coloring, etc., etc. are all special cases of the alternating inference chain.
10:59 am
drwho

Good morning UDbmas, oops good afternoon :) I'm on CDT!
11:01 am
drwho

I think I will try to give a good explanation of alternating inference chains at my web site. I have explanation of only the most basic techniques. I have found that those combined with AIC is all I need.
11:01 am
Limer

Dr Who, did you use a Daisy chain?
11:02 am
drwho

Not that I know. Perhaps you mean the same thing I do when I say alternating inference chain.
11:02 am
Limer

No, I was trying to be funny. Fell a little flat...
11:03 am
drwho

HA ha (think Bart Simpson).
11:04 am
gman

dr who--how do you determine which pairs to look at for AIC removals?? I still have lots of pairs
11:05 am
drwho

If I knew that, I would have been done much sooner :). It's kind of hit or miss.
11:06 am
Limer

found a loner...
11:06 am
gman

thanx, I feel better now
11:10 am
drwho

One thing I look for is if there are only 3 places in a row or column at a particular digit can go. I try assuming it can't go in 1 of the cells then see if I can infer it must go in 1 of the other 2 cells, that eliminates the 3rd possibility.
11:25 am
Limer

Ha
11:25 am
Limer

Nailed that puppy!
11:25 am
Limer

Rank me, baby!
11:25 am
Limer

No green, or red
11:25 am
Limer

Cue theme muzak.
11:25 am
Limer

Oops, used a little green.
11:25 am
Limer

got carried away on that one.
11:25 am
Limer

Use no red
11:26 am
Limer

forgive me.
11:31 am
drwho

Take it easy on the puppies Limer.
1:49 pm
RodeoRogue

go
2:05 pm
jrrogers27

Why can't I see yesterdays' puzzle, and I know I didn't complete it, but it shows I have all the points I should as if I did?
2:07 pm
RodeoRogue

pause for lunch
3:36 pm
sandbox74

commence
3:47 pm
Montreal13

done - no greens ... and 1 wrong guess - have a great day all !
3:58 pm
mosie13

hi every body
3:59 pm
Montreal13

hi mosie...
4:08 pm
sandbox74

*sigh* going green
4:26 pm
Montreal13

...and that should make an even "1600" - enjoy the rest of the day !
5:08 pm
helenkeller

go
5:18 pm
sandbox74

terminate.. had one guess. and have to keep practicing how to use those AIC's more effectively
5:56 pm
helenkeller

done with greens
6:29 pm
tiredof1t

Almost solved it, then had a power outage and took that as a sign to quit for the day.
7:00 pm
Inge

Yippee. I did it. Started over with greens and found some 6's out of place.
8:19 pm
brittlefish.com

go
8:46 pm
brittlefish.com

done. auto g+r. one good guess.
9:44 pm
daneel

and he's off...
10:55 pm
daneel

one day i'll do the puzzle without juggling a bunch of other stuff too
11:09 pm
ellenz

How do you clear the board when you have made --never mind- how do you clear the board to start over?
11:55 pm
showtime

5
11:56 pm
showtime

4
11:57 pm
showtime

3
11:58 pm
showtime

2
11:59 pm
showtime

1