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Difficulty: Medium Sunday, March 19, 2006

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CHAT LOG for Sunday, March 19, 2006

12:07 am
caderoux

looks like we're back up
12:08 am
scottru

indeed
12:08 am
scottru

mot a lot of gimmes on this one
12:10 am
Thuryn

no 9s to start with
12:11 am
caderoux

c6r4?
12:13 am
svs

wow that took me like 1/100th the time it took me for yesterdays
12:14 am
caderoux

I'm off to a slow start
12:15 am
scottru

same here
12:15 am
torgone

8's first ..
12:16 am
caderoux

going down now...
12:16 am
Limer

got the whole lower left corner.
12:25 am
Thuryn

finished
12:25 am
Thuryn

damn. after three days of struggling, all of a sudden got a really fast one.
12:25 am
Limer

awesome, baby
12:25 am
MotiveForce

Dr_God was graceful
12:26 am
MotiveForce

*merciful
12:26 am
scottru

a fun one though it's taken me longer than yesterday's
12:28 am
mamabear

hi torgone!
12:29 am
scottru

w00t. now I have to wait 23 hours, 30 minutes...
12:30 am
caderoux

yeah, aucks to have to wait
12:31 am
wwd

you could always go to another sudoku site
12:31 am
Debs40ish

Morning all
12:31 am
MotiveForce

wwd: blasphemy!
12:31 am
Limer

Yo, Debs40ish
12:31 am
wwd

i'm only saying that if you have to have more
12:31 am
MotiveForce

lol w0rd
12:31 am
Debs40ish

Hiya Limer
12:31 am
wwd

i know there is no other site as good as this one though
12:32 am
Limer

wwd, agreed
12:33 am
scottru

seriously, blasphemy. if nothing else because it's beautiful.
12:34 am
wwd

like i said... this site is better than any other, but if you have an addiction, it doesnt' feed it very well, so there are other places to get your fix
12:34 am
Limer

If I need a fix, I can play the game on my Zire 72
12:34 am
wwd

sweet
12:35 am
caderoux

I never liked playing online until this site went live. Since then, I have done more research. USAToday are way too easy - even the 5 star. miniclip.com not great, neither websudoku. The SudoCue ones are harder, but program not got a good UI. Still like Simple Sudoku's interface the best, but USA Today's and miniclip's are pretty quick.
12:35 am
MotiveForce

wtf is a Zire 72?
12:35 am
Limer

wwd, tx
12:35 am
wwd

websudoku.com has some hard ones, but the interface is not nearly as nice or slick
12:35 am
Limer

MotiveForce, A Zire 72 is a handheld device from Palm, Inc.
12:36 am
MotiveForce

tee aitch ex
12:36 am
Debs40ish

<<thinks stick around long enough and will understand what the ell they're all talking about ;-/
12:36 am
Limer

RoadRunner.com has some puzzles also, but I like this setup better.
12:37 am
caderoux

Isn't it the chat which makes this site so compelling?
12:38 am
Debs40ish

It would be if I understood it.....lol
12:38 am
The Wac

definitely a plus
12:38 am
Limer

caderoux, it sure helps.
12:38 am
wwd

actually, i really like the fact that you can have your hints as well as the click to get the options
12:39 am
caderoux

wwd - elaborate?
12:39 am
wwd

you know, when you click... you get the box with the number options... i haven't seen that on any other site
12:40 am
wwd

also... you can't have the little green and red numbers in grid format on a lot of the online ones
12:40 am
MotiveForce

yeh, that's h0t
12:40 am
Debs40ish

green & red numbers?
12:41 am
wwd

yeah, the hints... when you click and get the option box and then click with shift to get your hints
12:41 am
Debs40ish

Sorry it must be in.... maybe it's an English thing but I haven't a clue what your talking about
12:41 am
The Wac

i'm not getting the red numbers
12:42 am
caderoux

Yeah, for online it's really good. I tried a bunch of offline ones since last year and settled on Simple Sudoku. I play on a tablet PC. It hsa double-clicking for a naked single and right-clicking for include or exclude. I always use auto pencilmarks.
12:42 am
wwd

okay... what language do you speak?
12:42 am
MotiveForce

english as in she's from England
12:42 am
Debs40ish

English but I only have black numbers!
12:42 am
MotiveForce

like a dialect thing
12:43 am
caderoux

Debs: red and green are the pencilmarks feature which you can use - see how to play (shift and akt)
12:43 am
mamabear

ifyou hold down the shift and then click the number, it will make it green, if you hold down alt & the number, it will make it red in the box
12:43 am
wwd

right
12:43 am
Debs40ish

And why would I want to do that?
12:43 am
wwd

because you can put all the options in the box and then eliminate your options from there
12:44 am
Debs40ish

Oh...ok... cheers
12:44 am
Limer

Debs40ish, If you are uncertain what number can work in a square, use the green or red to track it.
12:44 am
caderoux

If you go nuclear too early, the red and green will make spotting patterns tought.
12:44 am
Debs40ish

Nuclear? what buttons do I press for that one????????
12:45 am
MotiveForce

lol
12:45 am
caderoux

Another nice thing about Simple SUdoku is that it has 1-9 and a pairs button that helps spot hidden singles and the various exlusion techniques
12:46 am
wwd

sounds nice
12:46 am
Debs40ish

Think I'll go make a cuppa tea.......pmsl
12:46 am
wwd

and this is an offline version?
12:46 am
caderoux

nuclear - that's when you fill in all the possibilities and pray you can spot a pattern...
12:47 am
Debs40ish

<<falls on knees and prays for guidance.. or maybe just a brain!
12:47 am
caderoux

Simple Sudoku? Yes, it's free, Windows-based
12:47 am
wwd

oh, dang... i'm on a mac
12:47 am
Limer

Debs40ish, keep playing! You'll get it!
12:47 am
Debs40ish

I live in hope Limar....lol
12:48 am
caderoux

http://angusj.com/sudoku/
12:48 am
Debs40ish

I know how to play sudoku.... just haven't a clue what all the gobbledegook is about
12:48 am
Limer

Prayer doesn't hurt either.
12:49 am
caderoux

It's got unlimited undo, too.
12:49 am
Limer

???
12:49 am
caderoux

Too bad about the mac, though.
12:49 am
wwd

like i said... i'm on a mac... oh, and i have a linux server
12:49 am
Myriad

that took a long time :( I didn't know you could make notes in green ^_^;
12:50 am
Limer

Nailed that puppy!
12:50 am
Limer

Rank me, baby!
12:50 am
guerro

awww poor dog
12:50 am
Limer

guerro. lol
12:51 am
guerro

i am on a mac too
12:51 am
guerro

looks like 4 is the magic number to get this one started
12:52 am
Limer

later people, got to go to the john.
12:52 am
guerro

number 1 or number 2 ?
12:53 am
wwd

nasty
12:53 am
Debs40ish

Finished....
12:53 am
MotiveForce

Limer's dropping a Pi
12:53 am
Debs40ish

John means loo right?
12:53 am
guerro

yes
12:53 am
wwd

yes
12:53 am
MotiveForce

yup
12:53 am
Debs40ish

ty...
12:53 am
caderoux

mac, maybe try: http://www.verek.com/sudoku-mac.html
12:53 am
wwd

or WC
12:53 am
wwd

i'lll look at it
12:54 am
guerro

he is pushing fudge, blowing mud, dropping anchor, dropping the kids off at the pool, having a parole hearing....
12:54 am
Debs40ish

I know when I was in pompano Beach I said anyone want a fag (meaning ciggy) and realised I had said something wrong ;-/
12:54 am
guerro

Debs: hahaha
12:54 am
wwd

haha
12:54 am
Debs40ish

Thanks for that Guerro....lol
12:55 am
guerro

i am playing onoine poker and doing some statistics homework while I try to solve this thing
12:59 am
Debs40ish

YOu must be female then!...lol
12:59 am
guerro

haha in a former life.
12:59 am
guerro

maybe
12:59 am
guerro

if i was a gal my name would be guerra
12:59 am
Debs40ish

lol
1:00 am
Debs40ish

Have never heard of the name guerro so you could be anything you liked
1:00 am
guerro

haha its Spanish for "whitey"
1:00 am
wwd

do you listen to beck?
1:00 am
guerro

yes
1:00 am
wwd

que onda?
1:01 am
guerro

nada, muy trabajo por la esquela y mucho sudoku
1:01 am
Debs40ish

brb going for a jimmy riddle and make a cuppa rosylee.....
1:01 am
wwd

naturalmente
1:01 am
guerro

jimmy riddle and cuppa who ?
1:03 am
MotiveForce

FTW!
1:03 am
MotiveForce

not so bad tonite
1:06 am
guerro

looks like 5 is the king pin
1:06 am
wwd

it would seem so
1:06 am
Debs40ish

rosylee= tea
1:07 am
guerro

ahhh ok with cream and sugar ?
1:07 am
wwd

and milk
1:07 am
Debs40ish

No milk no sugar...
1:07 am
Debs40ish

I mean yes milk no to sugar
1:07 am
guerro

cool
1:07 am
Debs40ish

Are you Spanish?
1:07 am
guerro

nice
1:07 am
guerro

no white, hence the whitey nickname
1:08 am
The Wac

where from?
1:08 am
guerro

i am half irish and part American Indian
1:08 am
Debs40ish

Spaniards are white aren't they!
1:08 am
guerro

and some other stuff thrown in for good measure I am in AZ
1:08 am
The Wac

cool
1:08 am
Debs40ish

I used to chat to an American Indian in old microsoft chat
1:08 am
guerro

Debs: I guess you got me there yes all Spaniards and Mexicans are white
1:09 am
Debs40ish

My Nan was Welsh, Grandad Scottish and born in West London so I'm just a Great Britan...lol
1:09 am
The Wac

you're right below me guerro
1:10 am
guerro

Avtually I am not in the southwest United States I am actually in Northern Mexico
1:10 am
Debs40ish

Never been to Mexico..been to USA a couple of times
1:10 am
guerro

For people 15 and under, Mexicans are the majority now
1:11 am
The Wac

wow
1:11 am
guerro

Debs: i was kidding. I am in Arizona but with all the Mexicans here it is more like Northern Mexico It could actually be said that they are just re-annexing the southwest
1:11 am
Debs40ish

Have been to Spain though & Spanish Islands
1:11 am
wwd

you mean except for whites, right?
1:11 am
The Wac

where in arizona?
1:11 am
guerro

Spain = a lot nicer
1:11 am
Debs40ish

Awwwww I'd love to go to Arizona and spend some time on a ranch
1:11 am
guerro

Chandler
1:12 am
Debs40ish

My Mums going to Las Vegas for a few days this yr..
1:12 am
guerro

we recently went 142 days with no rain and then it dumped buckets for 24 hrs straight heh heh
1:12 am
Debs40ish

Do you ride?
1:12 am
The Wac

oh shoot
1:12 am
The Wac

that's kinda crazy
1:12 am
guerro

AHAAAA my first 5 !
1:13 am
wwd

there is a five given
1:13 am
guerro

i have broken it !
1:13 am
Debs40ish

Broken what?
1:13 am
guerro

yes but i mean my first 5
1:13 am
wwd

i know
1:13 am
The Wac

everything debs
1:13 am
wwd

just being difficult
1:13 am
guerro

the 5 drought, of course
1:13 am
Debs40ish

lol
1:13 am
Debs40ish

Oh the game.. I've finished that
1:14 am
Debs40ish

Where do you live Wac?
1:17 am
The Wac

utah
1:17 am
Debs40ish

Osmonds...
1:17 am
The Wac

i believe you're right
1:18 am
Debs40ish

Makes a change
1:18 am
The Wac

oh?
1:18 am
Debs40ish

Anyway I'll leave you all to it.. I'm going to try and find a flight for Turkey.... Nice to have met you all take care, be happy & smile.. Lifes too short ((((hugs))))
1:19 am
The Wac

see you debs
1:19 am
Debs40ish

Cya Wac.. :)
1:19 am
guerro

finished
1:19 am
bstadil

Done Not so hard today
1:19 am
guerro

how long did that take ?
1:20 am
guerro

i mean for me
1:20 am
bstadil

50 min or so
1:20 am
guerro

i think I got on at quarter of
1:20 am
guerro

so about 30 mins not bad
1:20 am
guerro

ok gonna go play poker ttyal
1:20 am
The Wac

ah dang, i just screwed up majorly and i never saved it
1:21 am
The Wac

i think i'm done for the night
1:22 am
The Wac

it's not worth starting over now
1:22 am
The Wac

goodnight all
1:23 am
wwd

night
1:26 am
sprite

Morning all. Ha, another medium. Let's see what kind of medium this is ;)
1:26 am
wwd

hello sprite
1:27 am
sprite

Hi wwd, how are you doing?
1:28 am
wwd

fantastic... thanks
1:28 am
wwd

and you?
1:28 am
sprite

Just started, but it looks promising!
1:29 am
wwd

do you live in noord-holland?
1:29 am
sprite

I do, just above Amsterdam. Where all the windmills are.
1:29 am
wwd

nice... do you know the isle of texel?
1:30 am
sprite

Yes, I have been there a couple of times. Ameland and Terschelling are more beautiful. Did you visit Texel?
1:30 am
wwd

no, but my family is from there and i wanted to know if it is worth visiting
1:32 am
sprite

If you've got roots there, it's really worth your while. It's small, so you can always visit one of the other isles after that. Texel is the most touristic of them all.
1:33 am
wwd

yes... i also have family from Zandaam or Schoorl
1:35 am
sprite

Zaandam is where I live, the windmill place. And Schoorl is beautiful, with woods. You will have a great holiday if you ever come visit your roots :)
1:35 am
wwd

i was planning on it this summer but wanted to find a travel partner first
1:35 am
sprite

It's always nicer if you can share the fun, I think.
1:36 am
wwd

yes... definitely
1:36 am
wwd

you don't know anyone with the last name kikkert or ton do you?
1:37 am
sprite

Sorry, no I don't.
1:37 am
wwd

ok
1:37 am
wwd

no problem
1:37 am
sprite

Is that your old family name?
1:37 am
wwd

yes
1:37 am
DaveMan

yay, medium's not too hard tonight. nite ya'll
1:37 am
wwd

are zaandam and dezaan the same?
1:37 am
sprite

Night Dave!
1:40 am
sprite

De Zaan is a river, Zaandam is a city next to that river. And "De Zaanse Schans" is the mill place, with the musea and the working windmills etc.
1:41 am
wwd

oh... okay... thanks
1:41 am
wwd

how easy is it to get by in holland if you don't speak dutch?
1:42 am
sprite

Very easy. Almost everybody speaks English.
1:42 am
wwd

oh good
1:42 am
wwd

i can read dutch, but not speak it
1:43 am
sprite

You'll be fine :)
1:43 am
wwd

i hope so
1:44 am
wwd

well, i have finished so i will say good night
1:44 am
sprite

Welterusten, wwd, slaap lekker.
1:45 am
wwd

i could answer you in german, but not dutch but thanks... i will sleep well
1:45 am
wwd

oh... how old are you btw?
1:46 am
sprite

Lots of people speak German too here. :) I am 39.
1:46 am
wwd

nice... my brother lives in munich
1:47 am
krishna

jus started
1:51 am
MDFreaK76

wow. i've hit a wall wiht this one
1:51 am
Atalante

Bonjour ... guten morgen ... bore da ... etc :)
1:52 am
sprite

Ha Atalante! :)
1:52 am
sprite

Polyglotty Atalante!
1:53 am
sprite

MDFreak, keep hope ;)
1:53 am
Atalante

kind of! I wish I could speak languages better though ... I'm trying to get my French back up to some decent standard at the moment, but my German will always be fairly bad!
1:54 am
sherb

so this is where you all are... morning folks :D
1:56 am
sprite

Ha sherb! Yes, a quick sudoku before taking the kids to aikido. And babble after coming back. Some planning ;)
Atalante, I am always impressed by your knowledge of foreign languages!
1:58 am
Atalante

sometimes I don't like being English, because we all assume everyone else can speak English and therefore don't put as much effort into learning other languages. It's very lazy!
1:59 am
Atalante

oooooo I havent got a flag even though my nationality is filled in! I'm homeless!
2:00 am
sprite

Did you check the "show profile" box?
2:00 am
Atalante

yes!!
2:00 am
sprite

That's odd.
2:00 am
Atalante

ah well :)
2:00 am
sprite

Well, you are welcome to crash at my place as long as you are homeless ;)
2:01 am
Atalante

its obviously the site trying to tell me I belong at babble, I think!
2:03 am
sprite

The site knows you like a challenge.
2:04 am
Atalante

I am absolutely loving this site! I've NEVER got the hang of sudoku before, but somehow having it onscreen to play with is much easier for me
2:04 am
sprite

This one is quite easy, I think. Almost done!
2:05 am
sherb

I rashly said that Babble had cured my sudoku habit... and then Dr G goes and does this!!
2:05 am
sprite

Lol!
2:05 am
Atalante

I find with these I have to do a bit, then go away (to Babble) then come back and do a bit more etc etc
2:08 am
sprite

Done! Easiest one so far. I bid you farewell and run off to brush my teeth and take the kids to aikido. Back later on the babble site!
2:08 am
Atalante

see you later!
2:08 am
sherb

later sprite :D
2:34 am
mrpresident

ah, you are all in here!!
2:34 am
sherb

finally finished one!!
2:36 am
sherb

hi mrp :D ...back to Babble... or maybe I should get dressed...
2:37 am
mrpresident

babble is hard tonight! dress warm!
2:38 am
hokie carla

well, I'm glad to be done. guess I better get to bed now!
2:41 am
Atalante

really hard or just hard mrp?
2:44 am
mrpresident

just hard!
2:44 am
mrpresident

some of those c's are kidding us!
2:45 am
Atalante

oh joy! and an x word? cool1
2:46 am
mrpresident

nothing nasty about them, but the suffixes are enjoyable!
2:57 am
bex777

morning everyone!!
2:57 am
Atalante

hi bex
2:59 am
licketySplitAUS

HI Atalante
3:00 am
Atalante

these 1s are annoying me!
3:02 am
Tigereye

My number would be going in a lot faster if I didn't have the commonwealth games on...
3:02 am
bex777

same here i am watching the swimming!!
3:08 am
mrpresident

the swimming is very good though!
3:17 am
moedog

woo hoo! finished my first puzzle on this site!
3:31 am
Atalante

note to self - do not do sudoku when concentrating on something else. it will inevitably go WRONG
3:56 am
macuser

Good morning/afternoon, all :)
3:56 am
Grendel

:P this one is kicking my butt
4:00 am
euph

\o/
4:01 am
beertje

All I seem to have left are sets naked doubles where there are only two cells remaining, naked triples where there are three and naked quadruples where, yes you guessed it, there are only 4 cells remaining anyway.
4:06 am
Vega

Woohoo! That was easy.
4:14 am
Grendel

Gah, just finished
4:14 am
bex777

finished!!!
4:20 am
beertje

Woohoo!
4:39 am
macuser

Done!
4:40 am
macuser

Now back to Babble :)
4:44 am
Atalante

finished too!
4:57 am
rbmjw

got it
5:51 am
Linda

ok, haven't managed to finish this the last few days. i'm going to try really hard today!
6:07 am
Linda

hooray! i've just finished. it was certainly easier today
7:00 am
twofisted

finished
7:00 am
twofisted

finished
7:25 am
sandr

finished
7:25 am
peternl

well done. still working at it
8:07 am
peternl

done
8:19 am
LordHits

done :)
8:34 am
judirnc

did it!
8:42 am
Ricey

these are getting boring
8:42 am
Ricey

need to be a bit harder
8:43 am
Ricey

only took about 6 mins today
8:43 am
Stef

You must be very skilled Ricey
8:48 am
davidtoc

it takes me longer than 6 minutes to fill all the candidates in!
8:49 am
terfle

I agree with davidtoc, unless you aren't filling the green numbers...I'm not sure how you could do it in 6 minutes
8:50 am
davidtoc

and i don't see how anyone could do one without the green numbers.
9:01 am
harpjane

So far this one seems much easier than yesterday's. I finally finished yesterday. First time.
9:01 am
Shaiman

really? i'm stuck
9:01 am
Shaiman

i feel like i need to guess, but i don't want to "cheat"
9:01 am
davidtoc

i'm stuck too, but i think it's because i haven't had my coffee yet. Ugh...
9:01 am
hexx54

I agree yesterday's was hard but i got it this one is easier
9:02 am
Krys10

no guessing! have you checked out the strategy sites people have been posting?
9:02 am
Krys10

http://www.writely.com/View.aspx?docid=bbfm2k
df5zzzv
9:02 am
harpjane

It's not cheating to guess. Just save the grid before you guess and remember what you did so you can revert to something you know will work.
9:02 am
Shaiman

i've run through all the standard strategies.. i assume i'm missing a couple of the more advanced ones
9:02 am
Krys10


http://www.sudokudragon.com/sudokustrategy.h
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9:03 am
Krys10

http://www.simes.clara.co.uk/programs/sudokut
echniques.htm
9:03 am
Shaiman

i'll check those out and see if i'm missing something
9:03 am
Krys10

I'm still learning, and I do end up playing the "what if" game to finish sometimes
9:04 am
Shaiman

so far, i've never had to guess to get one
9:05 am
hexx54

Same
9:05 am
harpjane

I guessed yesterday. But I'm not sure I'd call it guessing. "IF a then b" is a legitimate logic tool, isn't it?
9:06 am
Krys10

I justify that it's taking a stream of logic further than I can in my head...
9:10 am
Shaiman

gotta split for now.. bbl to finish this one. good luck all
9:34 am
bzikofski

done :) there's one moment where you have to step ahead a bit but it's easy to solve. good luck !
9:58 am
webdad3

That one was so much easier then yesterdays!
10:07 am
Zoor

im stuck
10:08 am
bunnyvicious

save and try guessing on one you have narrowed down to two possibilities...
10:09 am
Zoor

dont like guessing
10:10 am
bunnyvicious

sometime you have to to finish, you can alway leave the page and come back to your save point
10:10 am
bunnyvicious

i don't like to either
10:21 am
MDFreaK76

g'mornin all
10:21 am
bunnyvicious

mornin
10:23 am
MDFreaK76

i started this last nite but i hit a dead end with all the little green 5's and 9's
10:23 am
SaintNick

Same here - I tried twice, dead-ended twice.
10:24 am
jix

i had to guess one field (2 possibilities) my first guess was wrong my 2nd one was right
10:25 am
MDFreaK76

i hate guessing because i always forget what i changed
10:25 am
jix

MDFreaK76: use the save feature
10:25 am
mzhokie

If I have to guess, I save my puzzle first, then guess... if I hit a road block I refresh back to my saved puzzle and start again
10:25 am
bunnyvicious

I save everything I know for sure, that way I can guess a little and the go back to a clean slate if I need
10:26 am
mzhokie

exactly bunny
10:26 am
MDFreaK76

i save like a maniac because my computer is buggy :-\
10:26 am
jix

i'd like a feature like mark all little numbers red or green
10:26 am
jix

i always start with all little numbers red and green them out..,
10:26 am
Gaby

hi
10:26 am
MDFreaK76

that would be nice
10:26 am
Gaby

is any body there
10:27 am
MDFreaK76

and remove them once i enter a number
10:27 am
MDFreaK76

hi gaby
10:36 am
Crux

yes
10:37 am
prairiegal

one number to go and stuck..
10:38 am
bunnyvicious

Finished! If it helps, I didn't have to guess any to get it done, ya'll take care!
10:38 am
mzhokie

bye bunny
10:56 am
kindkat

is there an easy way to clear it all out and start fresh?
10:57 am
Dr_God

Not yet, but I'll be adding a "clear all" button soon.
10:57 am
patsee

what is flashing across the puzzle?
10:57 am
Dr_God

patsee-
Upgrade to Firefox 1.5
10:57 am
kindkat

ok. thanks.
11:11 am
MDFreaK76

w00t! i just finished my 1st puzzle!
11:11 am
MDFreaK76

only took me 3 friggin days!
11:15 am
hurshy

hello
11:16 am
evanonut

hey hurshy!
11:16 am
hurshy

hey nut!
11:16 am
hurshy

i was just popping on so bex could see my icon
11:16 am
evanonut

i love it, i should be pro so i can post my baby
11:17 am
hurshy

go for it nutters
11:18 am
evanonut

i would if i wasn't so frugal, i would be overwhelmed with guilt, what with carrying such a balance and all.
11:19 am
hurshy

ohh
11:19 am
hurshy

i'm frugal but i happened to have some money at the mo
11:19 am
SaintNick

Whoopee! Done!
11:19 am
hurshy

ohhhh, une's got a nummy choc covered strawberry over at babble
11:20 am
evanonut

i'll gitem paid - cancelled the old cell phone to save money - then you won't escape daily pics of my furry guys.
11:20 am
evanonut

uh oh
11:23 am
Chameleon

anyone have a problem with puzzle flickering?
11:23 am
evanonut

chameleon, i think that's supposed to be a firefox problem.
11:24 am
contestant

I thought that these sites were designed around Firefox, hence the thing at the bottom
11:24 am
Phox

lol
11:24 am
Chameleon

really? haven't had many problems with Firefox..ever
11:24 am
Dr_God

Chameleon-
Upgrade to Firefox 1.5
11:25 am
Dr_God

The flickering thing only happens in Firefox 1.0.x
11:25 am
evanonut

thanks dr_g
11:25 am
Chameleon

thanks
11:25 am
Chameleon

My partner goofed!
11:25 am
Chameleon

he thought I had the latest Ff
11:25 am
Chameleon

blah
11:25 am
Chameleon

bbs
11:39 am
contestant

hrmmm
11:43 am
Chameleon

yaaaaaaaay
11:43 am
Chameleon

yaaaaaaaay
11:44 am
contestant

You finished?
11:44 am
Chameleon

nope
11:44 am
Chameleon

I'm back.
11:44 am
hexx54

lol
11:44 am
contestant

Well, that works too
11:44 am
Chameleon

had to update my Firfox theme, too
11:44 am
Chameleon

thanks
11:44 am
Chameleon

err Firefox
11:45 am
Chameleon

Muuuuuuuuch better, DG!!
11:46 am
Chameleon

Thanks. Now I can play without getting a headache.
11:50 am
contestant

My logic sucks.
11:50 am
Chameleon

awww
11:51 am
uiklop

and done
11:51 am
contestant

So many potential 5s and 9s 'round the board
11:51 am
Chameleon

time to guess?
11:51 am
hexx54

ya
11:54 am
Chameleon

I only have one entire row and one complete box.
11:54 am
contestant

Box BL and Row 8, I bet.
11:54 am
Chameleon

had to give up last night due to the flickering
11:54 am
Chameleon

yes
11:54 am
contestant

I think we're in the exact same spot, here.
11:55 am
patsee

me too, same spot
11:57 am
contestant

I'm gonna take a break, come back to this late.r
11:57 am
Chameleon

see-ya', con
11:57 am
contestant

eh, who am i kidding.
11:57 am
Chameleon

hahaha
11:57 am
Chameleon

gotta make that leap
12:02 pm
contestant

Making progress
12:02 pm
Chameleon

good, good
12:02 pm
contestant

Got C8 filled and I'm making progress
12:03 pm
Chameleon

I'm down to 5 and 9 in C8
12:04 pm
Chameleon

4 & 9 in C2
12:04 pm
Lindsey Kuper

Woohoo! Got it.
12:04 pm
Chameleon

wtg LK
12:06 pm
contestant

Chameleon: Look carefully at the fours around box TR
12:06 pm
Chameleon

d'uh
12:06 pm
Chameleon

thanks
12:07 pm
Chameleon

didn't clear the green 4s when I placed it top row
12:10 pm
Chameleon

ok..must go eat
12:10 pm
Chameleon

bbs
12:11 pm
evanadine

wow, finished todays pretty quickly, no guesses needed!!
12:19 pm
Babbler

I made a silly mistake and had to start all over again! : ( Paid attention and wasn't too bad in the end! Babble soon... : D
12:21 pm
mzhokie

I'm just stuck with 3's 5's and 9's everywhere it seems
12:28 pm
mzhokie

major break through and I'm done!
12:34 pm
MpP

done! Definitely easier than yesterday...
12:49 pm
Goldthang

greetings all..
1:04 pm
patsee

yeehaw, i get 2 whole points!
1:04 pm
Chameleon

evandine: *no* guesses???
1:04 pm
Chameleon

at all???
1:04 pm
evanonut

i never guess - i swear
1:05 pm
Chameleon

yikes
1:05 pm
Chameleon

you must rock at chess
1:06 pm
evanonut

i figure i probably reason things out wrong sometimes though, and then theres the whole put greenies where they don't belong thing - mainly i catch my mistakes and sort it out from there.
1:07 pm
evanonut

something is definitely wrong right now -
1:07 pm
hurshy

i made no guesses either but i stink at chess
1:09 pm
evanonut

i'm pretty sure the bottom left box is right. gotta go from there i think
1:17 pm
kneestabber

wohoo. glad I got today's. it's been a while since I finished one.
1:19 pm
Chameleon

dammit
1:20 pm
Chameleon

down to 2 spots and I'm hooped
1:31 pm
Kyle

bah
1:31 pm
Kyle

i copied the wrong number into my play sheet
1:32 pm
WNxNukeem

me'
1:32 pm
WNxNukeem

edit: me's done!
1:34 pm
Goldthang

sweet.. finished.. have a kewl nite..
1:36 pm
davidtoc

ooh. my first xwing. i'm so proud!
1:38 pm
Shaiman

which is the xwing?
1:39 pm
davidtoc

u mean, what is an xwing?
1:40 pm
Shaiman

familiar with the techniques, but i don't recall what the xwing was
1:40 pm
davidtoc

good expl. here: http://www.sudoku.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=
3326
1:41 pm
flarfu

yay! today's was better than yesterday's
1:42 pm
davidtoc

what does better mean, flarlu?
1:42 pm
davidtoc

harder or easier?
1:43 pm
GreySim

Easier from what I can tell in the first few minutes.
1:46 pm
mbadge

Agreed, easier as judged by the first few minutes.
1:47 pm
Douglas

Add another to the list of "who's completed it" :-)
1:47 pm
wth

Yay! Done.
1:50 pm
iroflo

me too :)
1:51 pm
davidtoc

so close now...
1:51 pm
Chameleon

arrrrrrrrrrrgh
1:51 pm
Chameleon

I think I saved with a glitch!
1:52 pm
davidtoc

finished! woooo!
1:52 pm
davidtoc

chameleon: yeah, i wish there was a feature let you u undo steps. i hate when that happens.
2:04 pm
Chameleon

think I'm close
2:04 pm
Ian Bradbury

On my second attempt - there really needs to be an undo last 10 moves...
2:04 pm
jojomnky

done!
2:05 pm
Diane

Me too, my first!
2:05 pm
Diane

(here, that is)
2:06 pm
Chameleon

finito!
2:06 pm
greylurk

This is a lot harder not being able to mark the squares
2:06 pm
Chameleon

greylurk: shift and alt keys
2:06 pm
Chameleon

green and red
2:06 pm
Chameleon

hold shift while you click a number
2:07 pm
Ian Bradbury

Brilliant
2:08 pm
greylurk

thx
2:08 pm
swati

the middle square is relatively easy to solve today
2:09 pm
whitewoe

what's so cool about the middle square?
2:09 pm
GreySim

The lower left one is the only easy one I found. That and all the squares crossing the 5. Now with no more 5s I'm getting pretty stuck.
2:11 pm
swati

yeah, there are "5s everywhere"
2:11 pm
swati

once you get the middle square, everything falls into place fast
2:21 pm
eggs

me done!!! yay if only i could complete the samurai one from yesterdays paper ugh
2:21 pm
greylurk

Woot.
2:22 pm
bongomama

yay!first one =)
2:22 pm
haZe

eaaaaasy :)
2:24 pm
totony

'llo all...
2:27 pm
GreySim

The lack of 5s really really makes this hard, IMO. That, or I need to use different forms of logic to attack this.
2:27 pm
GreySim

But everywhere I think I'm getting somewhere, I'm always missing a 5 or a 9.
2:27 pm
GreySim

Hi totony.
2:46 pm
Dr_God

Something goofy is going on with the server. Not quite sure what it is though. :\
2:51 pm
totony

goofy like what ?
2:53 pm
totony

anyway, this one is waay easyer than the last one :-)
2:54 pm
renfield

dr g-d w/ babble as well 8/
3:05 pm
raerae7133

dr_god, aren't you supposed to be the one who DOES know what's wrong with the server?
3:05 pm
Dr_God

You'd think. ;)
3:15 pm
raerae7133

+2 points
3:23 pm
David Mitchell

My first sudoku puzzle, and I finished it! But I had to guess. :(
3:23 pm
hexx54

booo
3:24 pm
hexx54

lol
3:25 pm
Anj

hellooooo
3:40 pm
lola

Looking for me babe? : )
3:44 pm
Anj

Of course, where were you hiding?? : )
3:44 pm
lola

lol, just takin' my time. Did ya miss me? ; )
3:45 pm
Anj

...terribly : ' (
3:46 pm
lola

aww, missed you too :' ) xx
3:58 pm
Anj

That one wasn't too bad : )
4:06 pm
hexx54

wuts going on with iron
4:13 pm
lola

Anj, you there?
4:14 pm
lola

Oooo, you went pro!
4:15 pm
Anj

: )
4:16 pm
lola

sorry babe, log stuck and i didn't see your last post : /
4:17 pm
Anj

Mine's juddering a bit as well. Are you done??
4:17 pm
lola

not yet : )
4:19 pm
harpjane

I seem to be on a roll. Bombed out earlier but now I have 26 boxes to go.....
4:20 pm
Anj

Hey harp! Didn't find this one too bad : )
4:20 pm
lola

I am now! Much easier today : )
4:21 pm
lola

hi harp : )
4:22 pm
harpjane

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
4:22 pm
Babbler

uh-oh.... I feel peer pressur to subscribe coming on.
4:22 pm
elf

hello
4:22 pm
Babbler

anyone seen the chat log over in Babble just now? roflol!!
4:22 pm
Anj

Hey Babs, dunno what you are talking about... ; )
4:23 pm
Anj

Babs, was that for real??? I looked at it and nearly spat my coffee out : )
4:23 pm
harpjane

Make that 81 boxes to go.....
4:23 pm
Anj

Hi elf : )
4:23 pm
Babbler

I can't stop laughing!! I was like "eh??" at first, then the penny dropped!! LOL!!!
4:24 pm
Anj

Is 'he' serious then?? 8 /
4:24 pm
lola

are you talking about matzins?
4:25 pm
Babbler

I think so!! :' D lol ! yes, Lo .
4:25 pm
Babbler

like how would that work ???
4:25 pm
Anj

...!
4:25 pm
lola

babs, suppose the same as it does over the phone...; )
4:26 pm
Babbler

couldn't type a word that was in the grid! roflol !!
4:27 pm
Anj

Well THAT's a first for Babble : )
4:27 pm
lola

er, no it's not : /
4:28 pm
Anj

huh? what have I missed? : /
4:29 pm
Babbler

eh? me too! wha'd I miss?
4:29 pm
lola

we had some guy on awhile back who was getting fruity with anyone who'd talk to him! He got a bit...er...over the top!
4:29 pm
Babbler

was I there?
4:29 pm
Anj

...I wasn't!
4:29 pm
lola

babs, not sure...
4:30 pm
Anj

LOL! edit for context - I wasn't there... : D
4:30 pm
hurshy

ooh, anj went pro
4:30 pm
Babbler

I remember someone a while back, but I don't remember him going OTT
4:30 pm
Anj

Hi Hurshy - how's Babble ; )
4:30 pm
Babbler

must have been a different guy
4:31 pm
lola

well babs, he was offering plenty of ...um...cyber!
4:31 pm
renfield

help you guys! you left us alone over there!!!
4:31 pm
hurshy

i think it's ok, i have been done for awhile
4:31 pm
lola

LOL! : D
4:31 pm
Babbler

ahaa, 4.29pm explains it all. someone playing a practical joke.
4:31 pm
hurshy

was helping bex but then she had to go to bed
4:31 pm
Anj

I se it was getting a bit fruity Ren : )
4:32 pm
Babbler

LOL Lola!! I missed all the fun!! :D
4:32 pm
lola

ren, but he just explained himself : )
4:32 pm
renfield

yupe anj....
4:32 pm
hurshy

what time was the fruity person in this chat/
4:32 pm
harpjane

I say we do our best to convince him (by our silence) that we would not be good, um, playmates.
4:33 pm
renfield

ok - i'll go back over...
4:33 pm
Anj

ROFLMAO! and the moral is: don't give yer password to your flatmate : D
4:33 pm
Babbler

I'm going back too!! LOL !! :' D
4:33 pm
lola

4:19 hursh : )
4:33 pm
lola

lol, you scaredy cats! : D
4:34 pm
lola

Anj, are you changing your password??
4:34 pm
hurshy

wait, i'm confused, was there someone fruity in THIS chat, or just in babble?
4:34 pm
harpjane

It seems silly to give your password to anyone. The game is free. They can just make their own account.
4:34 pm
lola

in babble hurshy : )
4:35 pm
hurshy

oh ok, i saw the babble
4:36 pm
hurshy

and it can be worse than silly - that is what started the whole miya fiasco
4:36 pm
hurshy

it's like with locker combinations in school - don't give them to anyone!
4:36 pm
lola

right, I'm off to bed. Got nursery rota duty tomorrow! : D
4:36 pm
hurshy

have a good sleep lola
4:37 pm
Anj

Lol, it's ok, I trust you ; )
4:37 pm
lola

...that would be your first mistake ; )
4:38 pm
hurshy

yes, the teachers used to say, "you may be in love now, but..."
4:38 pm
hurshy

:D
4:38 pm
Anj

'nite babe ((x)) : D *hurries off to change password*
4:38 pm
hurshy

wrestling with another very evil sudoku :(
4:39 pm
contestant

Done, finally
4:41 pm
hexx54

so many 5 and 9 combonations
4:41 pm
hexx54

its insane
4:43 pm
Anj

hexx, agreed, bit of a head nipper...
4:44 pm
hexx54

for sure
4:44 pm
hexx54

started off easy..
4:44 pm
asahi

agreement! this is evil!
4:47 pm
raerae7133

evil? pssh ;)
4:47 pm
asahi

for now, at least. ;D
4:47 pm
raerae7133

It took me 10 minutes or so
4:48 pm
asahi

o_o
4:48 pm
raerae7133

is that a good or bad o_o
4:49 pm
asahi

that's an "I'm somewhere between scared and jealous" o_o
4:50 pm
raerae7133

so much emotion packed into those three characters!
4:50 pm
hexx54

haxored? 10 minutes??
4:50 pm
raerae7133

Yeah. I play a lot :)
4:50 pm
hexx54

how did you solve the 5 and 9's
4:50 pm
jonathanpoh

don't know how you guys do it... takes me over an hour
4:51 pm
asahi

yes, the wonders of emoticons!
4:51 pm
raerae7133

okay, gonna let my fiancee play now
4:51 pm
asahi

I had to take a break and come back
4:51 pm
Rachel

<--- haxored's fiancee
4:51 pm
asahi

good luck!
4:54 pm
prairiegal

one square to go and stuck...
5:02 pm
asahi

all done! yay! :)
5:02 pm
GreySim

I've never hated a number as much as I hate 5 right now. ;.;
5:02 pm
hexx54

and 9
5:02 pm
jonathanpoh

1,5, and 9
5:03 pm
hexx54

ya and 1
5:03 pm
jonathanpoh

i'm still stuck
5:03 pm
GreySim

9 too, but at least I have more than one of them. I can't narrow down a single 5. Or a single non-default 1, too. So good point there. :)
5:03 pm
Rachel

done!
5:03 pm
kbad

so at some point you HAVE to guess, correct?
5:03 pm
kbad

after you've narrowed it down?
5:03 pm
hexx54

no
5:04 pm
hexx54

should be all logic thinking
5:04 pm
elf

you never have to guess
5:04 pm
jonathanpoh

just wondering the same actually....
5:04 pm
kbad

there's always a move you can figure out?
5:04 pm
jonathanpoh

it this one be solved with logic alone?
5:04 pm
jonathanpoh

it=can
5:04 pm
hexx54

yes
5:04 pm
kbad


ok, that's what i needed to know in order to put more time in
5:05 pm
GreySim

Yeah. There should always be a move you can figure out. I'm starting to wonder if you mark up a square wrong without realizing it though, then maybe you're screwed and logic can't help you unless you can figure out where you made an error...
5:05 pm
jonathanpoh

likewise
5:05 pm
GreySim

Because at the moment, this does not seem possible.
5:06 pm
jonathanpoh

well at least on here it flashes you when you put an invalid figure... on paper you may never even notice you've made a mistake
5:06 pm
GreySim

And that's where the paid account comes into play, I think. I'm frustrated enough to be willing to pay to see if I screwed up. Unfortunately for Dr_God, I'm broke right now. :P
5:06 pm
kbad

ahhh
5:07 pm
jared

Just finished. And no, you don't need to guess. (BTW, it flashes on error for free accounts, too, I'm pretty sure.)
5:07 pm
elf

i'd go for websudoku before paying for this, if seeing your mistake is the only benefit
5:09 pm
GreySim

I've never seen a flash on error, unless it's so subtle that I miss it. I've only seen red for completely invalid moves, like 2 2s in the same square or something.
5:09 pm
jonathanpoh

yea it does... flashes the whole line or box if you've put a dublicate number
5:10 pm
jared

Right. It flashes for *invalid* entries, not *incorrect* entries.
5:11 pm
aileza

just finnished this for my wife loool
5:11 pm
hexx54

aileza finish it for me
5:11 pm
hexx54

lol
5:11 pm
hexx54

i got YESTERDAYS hard puzzle and not today's medium
5:12 pm
GreySim

Yeah. My problem isn't that though. My problem is not being able to narrow down any square to only one solution. Every time I think I find one, there's always a possible 5 or 9 (or both) that screw it up for me. :P
5:13 pm
aileza

the clue is the bottom middle square
5:15 pm
hexx54

3
5:16 pm
hexx54

two empty
5:16 pm
jonathanpoh

hexx: same here
5:16 pm
hexx54

both can be 5 or 9
5:19 pm
aileza

do any of u have problems logging out?
5:24 pm
elf

no, just solving this thing
5:27 pm
stubie

Ooh, shit, I messed up.
5:27 pm
stubie

There should be a clear button.
5:35 pm
licketySplitAUS

Finished!
5:36 pm
licketySplitAUS

3 attempts
5:51 pm
GreySim

Yay! Finally placed my first 5, and the rest was easy from there on.
5:53 pm
mamabear

good job, lickety!
6:06 pm
Sparkle

Yikes! If that's a medium, no wonder I couldn't finish the hard. You're right, the 5's the key...
6:07 pm
Kyle

man, that one took too long due to screwing up my print copy.. ah well
6:08 pm
Kyle

2 points.. 7 total now blah
6:09 pm
ali

easier than previous one
6:10 pm
Kyle

yea, i just managed to mistype putting the puzzle into Sudoku Companion
6:10 pm
Kyle

so i solved the puzzle wrong the first time
6:10 pm
131313

whats the point of having a program solving it for you, exactly?
6:10 pm
Kyle

odd that it still worked lol
6:11 pm
Kyle

i'm not having the program solve it, it's easier for me to use, take notes and such
6:11 pm
ali

it always happen
6:11 pm
Kyle

sudoku companion doesn't even solve or give hints, it's just a better tool than this crappy javascript thing on here
6:12 pm
Kyle

so i copy it into an empty grid and solve it that way.. i can just type "1" and it puts that as the number, control + 1 makes it a note.. alt + 1 removes 1 as a note
6:12 pm
Kyle

much faster than click, click, click, click click
6:15 pm
Kyle

anyway, off to go work on another sudoku of the day
8:33 pm
dplass

yay finished
8:36 pm
prettinpink934

hey question for anyone playing
8:42 pm
amidloroxygrl

how do i change the difficulty?
8:52 pm
mamabear

You can't change the difficulty - there is only one puzzle every 24 hours. This one will go away at 12 pm CST
9:05 pm
tbear

mamabear....thought I'd track you down using my special bear senses.....bear hug for you
9:08 pm
mamabear

((((((tbear))))))))) How are you doing in numbersville? This one is driving me bonkers!
9:13 pm
raggedyandy3478

got it!!!
9:16 pm
acheekymonkey

i'm stuck. tried all my tricks and can't see anything
9:16 pm
raggedyandy3478

just think ahead
9:17 pm
raggedyandy3478

if you can figure out that one number has to be in a certain row or colum of a box then you can figure out exact placements later, but that note will help you w/ other numbers
9:34 pm
acheekymonkey

looking for xwing and swordfish (i'm new to these techniques) just can't see them
9:36 pm
caderoux

they're not needed to solve this one
9:36 pm
acheekymonkey

hehe, that explains it!! thanks.
9:56 pm
acheekymonkey

"Locked Candidates" unlocked it for me!
10:53 pm
jedediah

ls -la
11:21 pm
israel

done
11:39 pm
helenkeller

well, finally a medium puzzle that was easy - usually for me they're more difficult than the hard ones - almost didn't start it - glad i did
11:50 pm
Leech

in the entire chat log, just one Pro account, hehe
11:56 pm
bish

whew... finished with 5 minutes to spare.