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Difficulty: Hard Friday, July 18, 2008

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CHAT LOG for Friday, July 18, 2008

12:03 am
UnikeTheHunter

DIPOG. Did It, Plenty of Greens.
12:13 am
trueheart11

go
1:01 am
trueheart11

done. no greens. finally
1:17 am
eyeman

Not too easy today, was it? Done, though.
2:00 am
yul

hello everybody
4:03 am
MrOoijer

DIPOG
6:24 am
Phil

start
6:27 am
Andy

And so it begins...
6:32 am
smooth_pappa

good morning andy! start!
6:32 am
Andy

Morning!
6:32 am
smooth_pappa

and hi phil
6:43 am
smooth_pappa

this Is a good challenge!
6:44 am
Andy

too good. Just went green.
6:45 am
smooth_pappa

I've got the center column completely filled, but the two outer ones are prooving tricky
6:45 am
Andy

16 filled including center column and then... pfft
6:46 am
kaosangel

Morning. Start.
6:46 am
smooth_pappa

hey kaos. good morning
6:46 am
kaosangel

Morning SP
6:49 am
smooth_pappa

ok... I think Ijust opened it up... let's see
6:50 am
kaosangel

Wow. Didtto to Andys last comment ... but not going green ... yet
6:51 am
Andy

done
6:51 am
smooth_pappa

Done! whoo hoo! and I did use a sneak peak of greens in the middle....
6:51 am
smooth_pappa

and I'm off. Have a great day guys!
6:51 am
Andy

auto g+r to fill and then manual on the way out.
6:51 am
kaosangel

grats sp
6:53 am
smooth_pappa

thanks, and to andy too. Now I'm really off. :)
7:07 am
kaosangel

Finally. Done. No greens
7:07 am
kaosangel

that was a pain
7:24 am
spreadeagle

Done, easy with greens. No time today to fight this one without greens...
7:38 am
Phil

done, finally
8:20 am
sulawang

starts
10:06 am
drwho

Difficulty score 39. No green, just barely. I had to find a hidden triple. Then the hidden triple revealed a naked triple and it was all down hill from there.
11:10 am
bgmadden

Aargh a mistake. Time to start over.
11:38 am
RodeoRogue

go
12:19 pm
RodeoRogue

must resist urge to go green!
12:36 pm
RodeoRogue

I'm a weak, weak woman. But at least I got it done.
12:52 pm
sandbox74

commence
1:22 pm
sandbox74

terminate.. no greens.. but honestly.. I sorta cheated because I read drwho's clue on a hidden triple.. shame on me...
2:06 pm
Inge

Finally got it, after a total restart with greens.
2:48 pm
ypsigirl

done
5:33 pm
helenkeller

go
5:36 pm
jacq

hello
5:52 pm
helenkeller

taking a break
6:18 pm
UnikeTheHunter

My brain isn't up to finding tripples without greens.
6:18 pm
jacq

ok whatare greens?
6:18 pm
jacq

whatare tripples?
6:19 pm
UnikeTheHunter

Press Shift as you select a number. It puts in a tiny green number so you can keep track of possibilities.
6:19 pm
jacq

ahhhhhhhhhhhh
6:20 pm
jacq

and tripples?
6:20 pm
UnikeTheHunter

Three cells that have no more than the same three numbers are a "naked tripple."
6:20 pm
jacq

huh?
6:21 pm
jacq

sorry, i play sudoku but the terminology escapes me
6:21 pm
UnikeTheHunter

If these three numbers in once constituency need to share these three cells, then they can't appear anywhere else in the same constituency.
6:22 pm
jacq

ok
6:22 pm
UnikeTheHunter

I meant "in one constituency" (ie. line or block.)
6:22 pm
jacq

nods
6:23 pm
UnikeTheHunter

And three numbers that appear in no more than three cells of the same constituency, but accompanied by other numbers in those cells, are a "hidden tripple."
6:23 pm
jacq

ok
6:24 pm
UnikeTheHunter

Using greens they are not too hard to spot. But keeping the possibilities in your head, without greens, is difficult for me.
6:26 pm
jacq

ty
6:26 pm
jacq

and hello btw
6:54 pm
BoredByPolitics

Finally... I lost count of the number of restarts I ended up doing - experience of what didn't work led me to the solution, I'm ashamed to say :(
6:54 pm
jacq

best way to learn
6:54 pm
jacq

and congrats
6:55 pm
BoredByPolitics

Only if you see why the solution is the solution :) Thanks :D
7:05 pm
jacq

maybe sudoku when drunk isn't best
7:08 pm
helenkeller

and ---- i'm back
7:08 pm
jacq

wb
7:08 pm
helenkeller

hi jac
7:09 pm
jacq

hi helen
7:10 pm
jacq

i'm thinking finishing the bottle in the middle of a game isn't good
7:10 pm
mamabear

this puzzle is being hi jac'ed? good thing my seat can be used as a flotation device
7:10 pm
helenkeller

{{{{mama}}}} heya!!!!
7:11 pm
mamabear

ola helen!!!!
7:12 pm
helenkeller

how's tricks? how are you doing?
7:12 pm
mamabear

not too bad - how are you? feeling better than last time we talked?
7:14 pm
jacq

done and dusted
7:14 pm
helenkeller

i'm doing much better, what with the hormones, sleeping pills and anti-depressants, but not quite perfect yet - thank god, no more night sweats :)
7:14 pm
helenkeller

yay for jac!
7:14 pm
mamabear

good job jac q!
7:14 pm
jacq

now can somebody please explain in terminiology a drunkard can understand what greens are and tripples and naked tripples please?
7:14 pm
mamabear

glad you're feeling better :-)
7:14 pm
jacq

ty ty ty
7:15 pm
jacq

oh my god i can't believe how long that took me
7:15 pm
jacq

i am never playing drunk again
7:15 pm
helenkeller

i am NOT drunk & this one is taking forever
7:16 pm
mamabear

greens are the possibles in each square - you hold down the shift and click in it. naked triples means there are 3 squares in a row, column or cube that can only be 3 numbers so you can eliminate them from the rest in that row, column or cube... might have to sober up first.
7:16 pm
mamabear

it was a piece of cake for me.... green cake, mind you, but cake.
7:16 pm
helenkeller

mama, how's your family?
7:16 pm
jacq

see somebody else was using all those words and i didn't get them i still don't get it i just see number patterns and follow them
7:17 pm
jacq

how do you know the comp is right with the possibilities? sudoku isn't a game of chance it's all mapped out you just need to find it
7:17 pm
mamabear

they're doing ok. how about yours? I am planning a vacation to ND to visit my daughter and son in law (rescheduled from June) in 2 weeks.... yay!
7:17 pm
mamabear

however you get there, you get there, jac q!!!
7:18 pm
helenkeller

good for you - i hope you have a great trip!
7:18 pm
mamabear

process of elimination maybe, jacq?
7:18 pm
mamabear

we still need to get together, ms keller
7:19 pm
helenkeller

LOL - ah yes, when you get back, send me an e-mail, i don't hook up to the im cause my computer was running a little slow
7:20 pm
mamabear

okee doke
7:20 pm
helenkeller

actually, i think it was the hundreds of e-mails from freecycle in the yahoo mail, which i never check
7:20 pm
mamabear

how is your family doing?
7:22 pm
helenkeller

still lots of sadness, alot of my unhappiness is not being able to share with lenny my own problems cause of what he's going through - tough, tough, tough - also, stressing out cause i need to find a job
7:22 pm
mamabear

oh boy...... lots going on still - email me anytime you need to talk - I would be happy to chat there with you, ok?
7:23 pm
helenkeller

i hope it is cooler in ND than it's been here :/
7:23 pm
mamabear

were you working before?
7:23 pm
helenkeller

thanks for the offer, but i'm one of those 'suffer in silence' people
7:24 pm
mamabear

yeah I tend to be like that too most times
7:24 pm
mamabear

it is cooler there now than it is here, but it changes by the minute there
7:25 pm
helenkeller

my last job was a pedorthist, professional shoe fitter for people with shoe problems, but i've done everything from floral design to computer graphics to social research to in-patient psych
7:25 pm
helenkeller

my last job was a pedorthist, professional shoe fitter for people with shoe problems, but i've done everything from floral design to computer graphics to social research to in-patient psych
7:25 pm
mamabear

wow - quite a spectrum there
7:25 pm
helenkeller

what i need is health insurance - been paying my own, but the prices are out of control now - so i'm thinking of something like whole foods where you don't have to work full time for the benefits
7:26 pm
helenkeller

yeah - it would be great if i could decide what i wanted to do when i grew up - lol - i know, i know, time is running out for me on that score :)
7:26 pm
mamabear

you aren't under your husband's health ins?
7:27 pm
helenkeller

*foot problems* (not shoe problems) - talk about your whiner/complainers there
7:27 pm
helenkeller

nope, he's self-employed (guard dog business) & believes he doesn't need health insurance - did i mention that he's an idiot?
7:28 pm
mamabear

oh I remember the guard dog business now.... yup pretty foolish about the health ins I'd say
7:28 pm
helenkeller

finally done!
7:28 pm
mamabear

yay!!!!!
7:29 pm
mamabear

last we talked, you had a litter of puppies in your care - are they all adopted out now?
7:29 pm
helenkeller

we argue about that all the time - he's so stubborn, and an idiot, did i mention that?
7:30 pm
mamabear

lol... yes you did. mine is a total idiot - we have alot in common
7:30 pm
mamabear

me and you I mean
7:30 pm
helenkeller

you have a really good memory! yep, they all went to good homes, just got a report on one of them yesterday - of course, we now have another litter! another point of contention between us - i keep telling him there are enough unwanted dogs out there, but he's intent on these bloodlines
7:31 pm
helenkeller

yes - we sure do!
7:31 pm
helenkeller

sadly, this one lost the whole litter except for one pup, not sure why - so she will be getting an operation when the pup is gone
7:31 pm
mamabear

plus I guess he looks at it as part of his job and income
7:32 pm
helenkeller

have you been babbling? i have been mostly lurking, just not feeling very chatty lately
7:32 pm
mamabear

oh that is terribly sad, I'm sorry about the pups
7:33 pm
mamabear

I babble occasionally - if it's not too big - don't chat much either these days
7:33 pm
helenkeller

sure - income for him, more work for me, cause i'm the one stuck with all the cleaning & socializing (which, when i re-orient my head, is a sweet blessing - playing with tiny puppies, that is)
7:34 pm
mamabear

yeah - good ideas for "them" most times is more work for "us"
7:34 pm
helenkeller

about the pups - we've had so many litters over the years, at first it was hard, but now i believe nature knows what it's doing
7:35 pm
helenkeller

exactly!!! you said it!
7:35 pm
helenkeller

are you still selling your house? did your guy finally move?
7:35 pm
mamabear

yeah doggies don't need doctors and nurses and mid-wives and birthing rooms and books and lamaz classes - they just know!!!
7:35 pm
mamabear

no he's still here - my daughter has one more year of school - so hopefully next year I will move out
7:37 pm
helenkeller

i don't envy your situation at all - has he at least been supportive through your hard times?
7:37 pm
mamabear

no - he never has been supportive to me.
7:38 pm
mamabear

I have been "alone" by most meanings of the word for many years now
7:39 pm
helenkeller

that stinks!
7:40 pm
helenkeller

i know the feeling - i go through periods of time without speaking to him cause i get so fed up, that doesn't help the situation either - men! sheesh!
7:40 pm
mamabear

yeah I know......
7:41 pm
mamabear

but each year that passes the hurt is a little less, so I'm just biding my time now
7:42 pm
mamabear

well, I think I'm going to head off - I've been up since 2:30 this morning!!! uggghhh
7:43 pm
helenkeller

that's a crummy way to live, but i know, you have to make the best of a bad situation & sometimes there just aren't any good alternatives
7:43 pm
mamabear

not for now there aren't - I am staying for my daughter's sake now - once she graduates will be my time I hope
7:43 pm
helenkeller

ok, have a great trip! talk to you when you come back & for sure, we must get together! take care!
7:44 pm
mamabear

yes I would like that - you take care too - enjoyed our chat!!!! {{{{{{helen}}}}}}
7:44 pm
helenkeller

{{{mama}}} later gator!
11:00 pm
Ed-was_here

go
11:17 pm
Ed-was_here

Done W/Greens