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Difficulty: Medium Friday, March 17, 2006

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CHAT LOG for Friday, March 17, 2006

12:00 am
MotiveForce

W00t!
12:00 am
darthdurden

yay!
12:00 am
darthdurden

7s!
12:00 am
goatherdered

!!!!
12:00 am
eliot

well, there's sevens
12:00 am
goatherdered

lol
12:00 am
Howard

Oooo..
12:01 am
benhiller

heh
12:01 am
eliot

it's as if a great sculpture has descended mysteriously from the heavens
12:01 am
eliot

it's as if a great sculpture has descended mysteriously from the heavens
12:02 am
scottru

where are people starting?
12:02 am
eliot

woops, sorry, had a blip on my side
12:02 am
MotiveForce

In Rochester NY
12:02 am
MotiveForce

lolz... sorry, i'm l00pie... it's St. Patty's Day
12:03 am
eliot

haha, that's right
12:04 am
darthdurden

yay! 4s done bitches!
12:04 am
benhiller

wow
12:05 am
MotiveForce

lolz chatterbox likes free-speech... nice!
12:05 am
benhiller

oh, 4s are easy, hahah
12:06 am
eliot

indeed
12:13 am
scottru

not too hard a puzzle... but I'm going to bed, g'night all
12:13 am
benhiller

cya
12:14 am
goatherdered

gn
12:16 am
sprite

Morning all :)
12:16 am
MotiveForce

yo
12:16 am
Krys10

hey there sprite!
12:16 am
goatherdered

morn
12:16 am
mrpresident

Hi sprite!
12:16 am
MotiveForce

what's that flag... Holland?
12:16 am
MotiveForce

^^^ ignorant
12:16 am
Krys10

heading home in the rain - will pop back in when I get there.
12:16 am
benhiller

yea, the netherlands
12:16 am
Krys10

See you all!
12:17 am
benhiller

i found that out by looking at the image file name :)
12:17 am
benhiller

cya
12:17 am
MotiveForce

haha nice
12:17 am
sprite

Very Holland for sure. And rain. Of course we have rain too.
12:17 am
eliot

it was sunny when i was there
12:18 am
eliot

logically, it obviously must be sunny all the time
12:18 am
sprite

Must admit it is sunny. Occasionally. ;)
12:19 am
eliot

nice place, certainly would enjoy living there
12:19 am
daocren

?
12:19 am
sprite

Glad you liked it, eliot. Where did you stay? Amsterdam?
12:19 am
eliot

yes, right next to Nemo
12:19 am
tvongaza

love the netherlands, half my family is from there
12:19 am
tvongaza

need to go back sometime
12:20 am
sprite

If you do, let me know and we'll have a drink there :)
12:20 am
eliot

I want to go back too, I wasn't there long enough
12:20 am
sprite

We can have a sudoku drink ;)
12:20 am
tvongaza

hah
12:21 am
eliot

I think I should go to sleep, work in a few hours
12:22 am
sprite

I love time zones. I just got out of bed, stealing a few moments before having to give my kids their breakfast. Sleep well!
12:22 am
jdbarney

on vacation - ha
12:25 am
MotiveForce

what's the time where u are Sprite?
12:25 am
sprite

7.25 am
12:25 am
MotiveForce

oh nice
12:25 am
Rachel

done
12:25 am
MotiveForce

it's 1.25 am here
12:26 am
sprite

WTG Rachel! Yes, I love being in this timezone. Always a new babble and a new sudoku when I get up :D
12:26 am
Playwoman

where are you, Motiveforce?
12:26 am
MotiveForce

New York
12:26 am
mrpresident

5.25pm Friday night!! Off to dinner soon!
12:26 am
MotiveForce

Rochest3r
12:26 am
MotiveForce

Friday Night!?! Where are you?
12:27 am
sprite

Ha mrP! You are always ahead of me ;)
12:27 am
Playwoman

where are u Mr.President?
12:27 am
mrpresident

Sydney, Aus
12:27 am
MotiveForce

w0rd mate
12:28 am
jonathanpoh

melbourne here :)
12:28 am
mrpresident

;))
12:29 am
Playwoman

cool.
12:29 am
sprite

From all over the world they gathered, driven by the urge to reason out some numbers.
12:29 am
Debs40ish

Morning all.... England here
12:29 am
sprite

Ha Debs, good morning neighbour!
12:30 am
Debs40ish

Hiya Sprite..
12:30 am
Debs40ish

You trying to babble and sud as well....lol
12:30 am
mrpresident

Sprite, Debs, you guys going babbling later?
12:31 am
mrpresident

multitasking freaks!~
12:31 am
Debs40ish

I've already popped in... I never have time to finish babble..or very rarely
12:31 am
sprite

Yes... not a great combo, is it? Brain has to work in a different way. Sure mrP, sudoku will be done before I am through babbling.
12:31 am
Debs40ish

We're women we can multitask!...lol
12:34 am
sprite

Well, now I have to feed some wild animals, and I can't combine that with either sudoku or babble. ;) Back in a bit!
12:35 am
Debs40ish

Cya Sprite..tc
12:35 am
sandyloo

hi all is it a hard one today
12:36 am
goatherdered

no
12:36 am
MotiveForce

:-/
12:36 am
Playwoman

not too bad
12:36 am
sandyloo

ok then
12:37 am
mrpresident

hey sandy
12:38 am
sandyloo

hi press
12:40 am
sandyloo

how come sprite has her icon up
12:41 am
mrpresident

she paid to be a pro
12:43 am
goatherdered

i got to a hard part )=
12:44 am
mrpresident

can't move forward either, time to go to dinner! bye
12:44 am
Debs40ish

Yeahhhhhh finished :-)
12:45 am
Playwoman

That was fast! Brava!
12:45 am
Debs40ish

Cheers..ty
12:45 am
Debs40ish

I print it off and do it...find it easier
12:48 am
MotiveForce

good idea
12:48 am
MotiveForce

i'll shout so Jamie sees this
12:48 am
MotiveForce

YO Dr_God.... MAKE A PRINT OPTION PLZ :)
YO Dr_God.... MAKE A PRINT OPTION PLZ :)
YO Dr_God.... MAKE A PRINT OPTION PLZ :)
12:48 am
Dr_God

There is
12:49 am
Dr_God

Just print the page
12:49 am
MotiveForce

haha hey man
12:49 am
MotiveForce

welcome back
12:49 am
MotiveForce

does it like alert you if i type your name or something
12:50 am
MotiveForce

ohhh nice you have a print stylesheet... classy :)
12:50 am
Dr_God

;)
12:50 am
Dr_God

Not a very class one, but better than nothing
12:53 am
Debs40ish

Dr while your here... can you move the message box in babble so its at the top too?
12:53 am
sprite

Ow yes, that would be great!
12:53 am
Dr_God

Debs40ish- Soon
12:54 am
Debs40ish

Would save having to keep scrolling to the bottome of the page all the time
12:54 am
Debs40ish

Ty Dr.. Your a diamond :)
12:54 am
Dr_God

As soon as I know there are no bugs left, I'll move Chatterbox over to Babble
12:54 am
sprite

Hooray for Dr_God... again :)
12:54 am
Debs40ish

Just squish em
12:55 am
sprite

Only thing I am missing in chatterbox is the possibility to start a new line in text... enter is posting. All the rest is great.
12:55 am
MotiveForce

SHIFT+ENTER

Like this
12:55 am
Debs40ish

Could I also suggest... you do some sort of deal... say a little bit off if you join babble and sudoku... Just a thought!
12:56 am
Dr_God

Maybe when I have 3 games. ;)
12:56 am
sprite

Motive, you are the greatest :)
Thanks!
12:56 am
Debs40ish

Three.. what else you thinking of adding?
12:56 am
MotiveForce

no prob ;)
12:56 am
goatherdered

done!
12:56 am
sprite

Dr_God, don't start a third. I am addicted enough as it is!
12:56 am
Dr_God

Not sure what #3 will be yet
12:56 am
Debs40ish

wd goat
12:57 am
sprite

WTG goatee!
12:57 am
Debs40ish

Everymans idea of heaven isn't it!....lol
12:58 am
Dr_God

Someone convinced me the other night to register a kakuro domain.
12:58 am
Debs40ish

Maybe you could do something like that tangleword thing so people can join in at any point of day and its nothing you have to complete
12:59 am
sprite

Lol! That was Krys10, and she's right. Looks like a great third puzzle... sigh... no sleep for the wicked!
12:59 am
Dr_God

I'm always open for suggestions, too
12:59 am
Debs40ish

Me too me too....lol
1:00 am
MotiveForce

if you did like a solitaire that would prolly work out... ppl are already addicted, so the chat box would just make it worse :)
1:00 am
MotiveForce

just a thought
1:01 am
sprite

Guess we'd take up whatever Jamie thinks out ;) But Kakuro sounds great.
1:01 am
MotiveForce

what's Kakuro?
1:01 am
Dr_God

Solitaire's a bit too...urmmm...solitary of a game for a communityr I think
1:01 am
Debs40ish

Good thing about tangleword is you can do as little or as much as you have time for and your points just build up.. The fact I'm rubbish at it is niether here nor there
1:03 am
sprite

http://kakuro.binaryworlds.com/ for some examples
1:03 am
sprite

Without the spaces, of course.
1:03 am
Debs40ish

It's like sudoku but with numbers!
1:04 am
sprite

You have to do more than counting, you have to add a little. But same idea.
1:04 am
Debs40ish

I mean numbers that have to equal a certain amoutn
1:04 am
Debs40ish

amount*
1:04 am
Dr_God

Yeah. Kakuro involves actual math.
1:04 am
Debs40ish

yuk
1:05 am
Debs40ish

<<chucks calculator at screen... nooooooooo don't do it... pleaseeeeeeeee....lol
1:06 am
sprite

Somehow I seem to remember kakuro from my childhood... only not by that name. Guess the idea is older than the craze.
1:06 am
Debs40ish

me, myself and I all vote for another word game :)
1:06 am
sprite

Lol Debs! Wouldn't it be great to train yourself to NOT need that calculator? ;)
1:06 am
Debs40ish

It was probably some sicko punishment drempt up my a maths teacher
1:07 am
Debs40ish

<<looks at Sprite.. Noooooooooooooooooooooo...lol
1:07 am
sprite

O help, I know that look! Sorry Debs... Sorry!
1:07 am
Debs40ish

lol
1:08 am
Debs40ish

My son wants to go to Amsterdam for his 21st!!
1:08 am
sprite

Great idea! And visit me, while he's at it :)
1:08 am
Krys10

I thought my ears were burning! Glad to hear you're considering Kakuro, DrG. I am a math tutor and I found that my own mental addition got better when I started doing Kakuro.
1:09 am
Debs40ish

Think he wants to go window shopping...You know what I mean!... The dirty little oik...lol
1:09 am
Debs40ish

yuk yuk at Kakuro
1:09 am
Krys10

It looks like I may be in Europe for Christmas/New Year's, but I think we've decided on Belgium.
1:09 am
bstadil

Done
1:09 am
Debs40ish

You'll have to visit the chocolate shops..
1:10 am
Krys10

yuk yuk like laughing or yuck yuck like you hate it?
1:10 am
Debs40ish

wd bstad
1:10 am
Debs40ish

yuck yuck like hate it
1:10 am
Krys10

(Kakuro, I mean, not chocolate - I'm catching up on teh conversation)
1:10 am
Debs40ish

No love chocolate...lol
1:10 am
Krys10

I think chocolate and cheese will both be a focus :)
1:10 am
bstadil

What is Kakuro?
1:10 am
Debs40ish

You have to use maths!
1:10 am
Krys10

It's another type of puzzle, also called Cross Sums.
1:10 am
sprite

LMAO... Debs, sounds like a healthy wish for someone his age. Though he will be no doubt disappointed... which is healthy too.
Krys, I think I will like Kakuro. I love chocolate too. And I think going to Belgium is a great idea, but won't give us a chance to meet.
1:11 am
Krys10

Sprite posted a link earlier in the log
1:11 am
bstadil

I will google it Thanks
1:11 am
Krys10

Maybe you'll have to come to California, Sprite :)
1:11 am
Debs40ish

I think he just wants to walk down and drool at the windows... I've told him they are not all hey seem!.....LOL
1:11 am
Debs40ish

*they
1:11 am
sprite

http://kakuro.binaryworlds.com
1:12 am
sprite

That's an idea, Krys! I might :)
1:12 am
Dr_God

If I had a red light, I'd turn it on in honor of you son, Debs
1:12 am
Debs40ish

LOL
1:12 am
Debs40ish

Don't do that Dr... he'll get excited...
1:13 am
sprite

Red lights usually say STOP.
1:13 am
Krys10

tee hee
1:14 am
Debs40ish

I know someone who went into one of those places... got chatted up had em how to put it..errr well some sort of pleasure ..wondered why his mates were in fits until they ponted out it was a bloke in drag............PMSL
1:16 am
Debs40ish

Im sat here laughing to myself, my daughter just came down to see if I was OK, saw me laughing at the screen said "Your nuts" and walked off in disgust....LOL
1:16 am
MotiveForce

what's PMSL?
1:16 am
Krys10

peeing myself laughing?
1:16 am
Debs40ish

ermmm... wet myself laughing..kinda
1:16 am
Krys10

(guess)
1:18 am
Krys10

Dr._God, is there a swear-blipper implemented here?
1:18 am
MotiveForce

fuck no
1:18 am
Debs40ish

LOL
1:18 am
Krys10

LOLx2
1:18 am
Dr_God

Not yet. ;)
1:18 am
Debs40ish

Guess that means no....lol
1:18 am
sprite

Lol! The one in babble is so stupid, beeps words that are not that bad, but accepts words that are.
1:19 am
Debs40ish

You could make somehting that shoots out of the screen and slaps some tape on thier mouths...lol
1:19 am
Dr_God

I only bleep the bad ones on Babble, so you must have a higher tolerance, sprite. ;)
1:20 am
Debs40ish

I was married once.. I have all the tolerance possible!
1:20 am
sprite

A different one, Dr_God, not necessarily higher ;)
1:20 am
Dr_God

I only started bleeping them on Babble because kids were playing. I'm not sure if too many kids will be into Sudoku. ;)
1:21 am
Debs40ish

Sounds a bit like a Karma Sutra position..
1:21 am
Debs40ish

Not that I'd know!
1:21 am
darthdurden

karma?
1:21 am
darthdurden

lol
1:21 am
Debs40ish

lol
1:21 am
MotiveForce

durden: that's Buddist sex ;)
1:21 am
sprite

I don't mind one way or the other.
LOL @ Karma Sutra!
1:21 am
darthdurden

rofl
1:22 am
Debs40ish

really Sprite... You read the book too then!...LOL
1:22 am
Krys10

good one MF
1:22 am
darthdurden

i'm into carmamel sutra myself
1:22 am
Krys10

ooh, even better!
1:22 am
darthdurden

caramel*
1:22 am
Debs40ish

Is that paint it on stuff?
1:22 am
sprite

It's not that hard actually, Debs. Only getting untangled afterwards can be nasty ;)
1:22 am
Krys10

camel sutra would be hard... even with yoga
1:22 am
Debs40ish

omg what am I sayin...lol
1:22 am
Debs40ish

LOL
1:23 am
Debs40ish

Could get the hump!
1:23 am
Krys10

LOL
1:23 am
sprite

For a bumpy ride.
1:23 am
Krys10

dry humping?
1:23 am
Debs40ish

Could be nice!....
1:23 am
sprite

LOL!
1:23 am
Debs40ish

Not with a camal.. I dont mean that!
1:23 am
Krys10

ok, ok, I'm trying to count all my fours!
1:24 am
Debs40ish

am crying with laughter here....lol
1:24 am
Atalante

is this a "possible" medium, or a "really rather impossibly hard" medium??
1:24 am
sprite

How will I ever finish this sudoku???
1:24 am
Debs40ish

We talking sudoku or sex now?
1:24 am
Krys10

yeah, have we thought of a way to fair up the scoring?
1:24 am
sprite

It's a fairly easy medium, Atalante. And hi :)
1:24 am
Krys10

(sudoku)
1:24 am
Debs40ish

LOL@Krys
1:25 am
sprite

Debs, we are women, we are multitasking, we talk both.
1:25 am
Vega

Man... I missed completing yesterday's. *sigh* Was too busy at work to take a break.
1:25 am
Atalante

hey! I am getting totally addicted to this thing! I've never been able to manage them in newspaper, but this is so much better!
1:25 am
Krys10

i mean, so that the ten-pointers are actually harder than the two pointers. in the last few days, I've seen a really wide range of what people say are easy or hard
1:25 am
Debs40ish

Oh my minds in the gutter now...... everything anyones saying I'm having double meanings of
1:25 am
Krys10

(I've gotten hooked too - even put Kakuro aside for a few days to practice up on these)
1:26 am
Vega

Sudoku's awesome. Even moreso than the crosswords. =)
1:26 am
sprite

So far I have done an Expert one that was rather easy, a medium that was easy, a medium that was tough and a medium that could actually be classified as medium. A surprise every morning, what more can we ask for?
1:27 am
The Wac

how is this one today?
1:27 am
Krys10

*sigh* I've got all the fours. We can go back to distracting topics like chocolate and caramel now
1:27 am
Debs40ish

I need to go make a cuppa and calm down to some sort of normality.... Not that normals possible as far as Im concearned..... brb
1:27 am
Debs40ish

lol@krys
1:27 am
Krys10

maybe all the puzzles should be worth the same number of points, is what I was thinking.
1:27 am
Dr_God

I agree completely with sprite
1:27 am
Krys10

Debs, where are you located?
1:27 am
sprite

I always wonder what is normal about normal.
1:27 am
darthdurden

omg done!
1:27 am
Debs40ish

England
1:27 am
Vega

re rankings - how will it account for people who've been here since the start, and people who've just joined in?
1:28 am
Dr_God

Haven't really ironed that out yet
1:28 am
sprite

wtg darth!
1:28 am
Debs40ish

I'm not normal... If those that say they are normal are so called normal I'd rather be insane!
1:28 am
Krys10

I don't know why but I thought you were in the midwest US, Debs. except for "maths" and "cuppa"
1:28 am
Debs40ish

<<chucks Dr an iron
1:28 am
Dr_God

As the Rankings page says, I have until April 1st to figure that out. :)
1:28 am
darthdurden

ty!
1:28 am
Vega

We'll hold you to that, Dr_God. =)
1:28 am
Debs40ish

No.. Have been to US a few times but was born nr London live in East Anglia now
1:29 am
sprite

I couldn't care less about rankings. Just let me puzzle and I am a happy woman. Well... puzzle and a few other things.
1:29 am
Krys10

chocolate? caramel?
1:29 am
Debs40ish

Back to sex are we Sprite...lol
1:29 am
sprite

LOL! Never left there, I did, Debs.
1:29 am
Atalante

same here! puzzles and chocolate and my spaniel and more chocolate and ice cream and chocolate ice cream
1:29 am
Debs40ish

No sex?
1:30 am
Debs40ish

lol
1:30 am
Atalante

not compared to *good* chocolate ice cream :P
1:30 am
Debs40ish

Mind you chocolate satisfaction can last longer sometiems..
1:30 am
sprite

Hey, we had orgasms in babble recently. Life is beautiful.
1:30 am
Vega

For me - Puzzles, a chance to be creative, and a paycheck. Which I'll be getting today, I think... ^_^
1:30 am
Atalante

and orgies
1:30 am
Debs40ish

LOL
1:30 am
Debs40ish

Maybe I should eat a bar while having sex... that could be totally orgasmic....
1:31 am
sprite

I love to have chocolat after sex. :) Best of both worlds.
1:31 am
Atalante

just go for chocolate sauce
1:31 am
Debs40ish

At least that way it wouldn't be a total waste of time!
1:31 am
sprite

LOL... Debs, GMTA.
1:31 am
Debs40ish

Tried that.. mucked up the sheets and was a bugga to get off
1:31 am
Atalante

true true!
1:31 am
Debs40ish

lol
1:31 am
sprite

Then do it in the bathroom. No mess and fun to get off. O, what am I saying...
1:32 am
Debs40ish

What you lot like.. I was so sweet and innocent before....lol
1:32 am
Debs40ish

Spose.. then could share bath... both have a loofah!
1:32 am
Krys10

yeah right - you started it ;)
1:32 am
Debs40ish

as if..lol
1:33 am
sprite

Can't see the grid for laughing. I'll never finish this puzzle this way :)
1:33 am
Debs40ish

Spose thats my fault too!....lol
1:34 am
sprite

Great, I love it when I can put the blame on someone else. Yes Debs, it's all your fault! Thanks for that :)
1:34 am
Debs40ish

Your welcome.. I don't mind I get blamed for most things even when I aint there...lol
1:35 am
Debs40ish

Right am going to make a cuppa...bbb :)
1:36 am
Krys10

see ya!
1:36 am
Debs40ish

I'm coming back.. YOu can't get rid of me... I meant be back in a bit...lol
1:36 am
Debs40ish

I'm coming back.. YOu can't get rid of me... I meant be back in a bit...lol
1:36 am
Debs40ish

I'm coming back.. YOu can't get rid of me... I meant be back in a bit...lol

1:36 am
Krys10

I was just trying to work out what the third b was...
1:36 am
Debs40ish

Error
1:37 am
helenkeller

connection errors
1:37 am
Atalante

ooooh tea! that sounds like a remarkably good idea. brb too!
1:37 am
sprite

Great. First I see connection error. Then Debs comes through three times. Dr_God, this is fun!
1:38 am
Debs40ish

Geez thought Dr had chucked me out then!
1:38 am
Vega

Have had no probs with connection errors, but... see y'all later! Haven't finished the game, but came on in a hurry. ;) *waves*
1:38 am
Debs40ish

Cya Vega. tc
1:39 am
Krys10

Bye vega!
1:41 am
sprite

Bye Vega!
1:42 am
Debs40ish

<<sits back down with cuppa.... Hiyaaaaaaaa again it's only meeeeeee.....lol
1:42 am
sprite

And now for some serious numberhunting. :)
1:44 am
Debs40ish

I've finished so I'll leave you all to it... It's been really good fun this morning. Thanks for the laughs ((((hugs))))
1:44 am
Krys10

Well done, Debs. s'been a pleasure.
1:44 am
sprite

(((Debs))) It was great having you around... as always!
1:44 am
Atalante

well done Debs!
1:44 am
Debs40ish

Take care, be happy & smile.. Lifes too short xxxxx
1:45 am
Debs40ish

Cya Dr... and congrats on two great games :-)
1:46 am
Dr_God

Thanks
1:46 am
Dr_God

I hittin' the sack, too. Hasta mañana, folks...
1:47 am
Krys10

'night!
1:47 am
sprite

Sleep tight and sweet puzzledreams, Dr_God!
1:47 am
Atalante

this is probably a really dumb question - but - for any one number, are the 9 occurrences in different places in the boxes - i.e. one 9 would be top left, one 9 would centre top, one 9 would be right top etc
1:48 am
Krys10

it's not a dumb questions, it's interesting
1:48 am
Atalante

I know nothing about sudoku so I have no idea whether something's possible or not, so I just assume any question I may have is probably fairly dumb!
1:48 am
Krys10

i think no, it is possible to have numbers in the same position in each 3x3, as long as the 3x3's aren't in the same row or in the same colum
1:48 am
bex777

no unfortuantly!!! they can go anywhere!!!
1:48 am
Krys10

will try to prove it mathematically tomorrow :)
1:49 am
sprite

I think you have a point there. There should be 3xtop, 3x middle, 3xbottom somewhere in the grid, or not?
1:49 am
sprite

Questions are never dumb.
1:50 am
Krys10

actually, in my puzzle so far I see a counterexample. So unless I've made a mistake, they're not unique positions
1:50 am
daveb

is everybody's puzzle the same?
1:50 am
Atalante

thats what I was wondering sprite
1:50 am
Krys10

yes
1:50 am
Krys10

but we solve them in different order
1:50 am
Krys10

natch
1:50 am
sprite

There's only one solution.
1:50 am
daveb

my friday puzzle has two boxes with seven in the middle
1:50 am
helenkeller

right sprite - i think we must solve them all in the same order
1:50 am
sprite

Many ways to Rome, lol.
1:51 am
daveb

therefore 7 can't be in every position in the 3x3
1:51 am
Atalante

good point, daveb! I should look at the puzzle, shouldn't I :P
1:51 am
Krys10

right, I haven't placed both the sevens you're talking about yet, but I have two fours that are in the same position in their respecive 3x3 boxes.
1:51 am
Krys10

So it seems that the answer to Atalante's question is no.
1:51 am
Atalante

that's a shame. I liked that theory!
1:51 am
sprite

The middle 7s are given.
1:51 am
bex777

yea i have the 2 4's
1:51 am
daveb

the sevens were given to me that way .. sorry if i gave something away
1:51 am
Krys10

oh you're right - missed the bottom one
1:51 am
kgl

hello everybody
1:52 am
Krys10

hi!
1:52 am
sprite

hi kgl
1:55 am
sprite

Of course there are 3x bottom, 3x middle and 3x top for each number, but there is no way to predict the order in which they appear. No help there, I think :)
1:55 am
ringedingdong

GOOD MORNING WORLD
1:55 am
sprite

Hi ringedingdong!
1:56 am
kgl

中文?
1:58 am
randomm

hi all
1:58 am
sprite

Hi there randomm
1:58 am
randomm

how's it going?
1:58 am
sprite

Apart from being distracted by the great chat, it's not hard at all today.
1:59 am
randomm

yeah? ... i just started doing it...
1:59 am
Krys10

I'm making some really careless mistakes :(
1:59 am
sprite

Stop talking, woman... start working. LOL!
1:59 am
ringedingdong

seams easy... but let me finish...
1:59 am
bex777

this puzzle makes me not want to leave for school!!!!
1:59 am
sprite

Bex, I understand completely!
2:00 am
Krys10

yikes, yes ma'am!
2:00 am
sprite

Don't you just hate it when life gets in the way of playing...
2:01 am
bex777

can anyone else seee the big red message?
2:01 am
The Wac

wow this is exciting
2:01 am
ringedingdong

red message?
2:02 am
Krys10

the connection error banner? It was happening earler today..
2:02 am
sprite

The error message? Not recently, but it was there a while ago.
Hi Wac, yes it is :)
2:02 am
helenkeller

no more coffee for bex, lol
2:02 am
Atalante

I can bex
2:02 am
bex777

my chat log turned into big red messages saying contact dr god if this persistes
2:02 am
Krys10

first time I saw it the site crashed - everybody save (not all at once)
2:03 am
helenkeller

just refresh, but save your puzzle first
2:03 am
randomm

umm... maybe you should contact him then :)
2:03 am
ringedingdong

uhhh
2:03 am
bex777

they have gone now
2:03 am
ringedingdong

exciting ; )
2:03 am
sprite

Great tip, to save first! I had to start my first sudoku here about 4 times.
2:04 am
helenkeller

yeh - do tht enough & you won't forget to save, lol
2:04 am
sprite

That was a quick and thorough training for sure :)
2:05 am
helenkeller

lol
2:07 am
bex777

okay have to get ready for school!!! i have swimming first lesson:(
2:07 am
helenkeller

good -finished, all day to play babble tomorrow
2:07 am
helenkeller

good night everyone
2:07 am
bex777

night helen
2:07 am
Jovah

What is babble?
2:07 am
Krys10

good night HK, bye Bex!
2:07 am
sprite

Good luck at school, bex. And sleep well, wd helen.
2:08 am
bex777

it is a word puzzle (www.playbabble.com)
2:08 am
Krys10

www.playbabble.com
(where most of us heard about this site, I think)
2:08 am
sprite

Jovah: that was the first online game that Dr_God gave us.
http://www.playbabble.com/
2:08 am
Jovah

ah ok.. i will take a look at it once i finish this puzzle :)
2:09 am
Krys10

Babble looks like a good one today too
2:09 am
The Wac

why do i feel so stuck right now
2:10 am
sprite

Lol Wac... because you are?
2:11 am
The Wac

thanks. . . i needed some reinforcement there
2:12 am
sprite

You can have that too ;)
Just keep looking, in sudoku there is always a place where you can go on.
2:18 am
The Wac

sprite. . i admit, i'm completely ignorant as to what flag that is
2:18 am
Atalante

its the flag of utmost intelligence in all puzzles possible ;)
2:18 am
sprite

Holland
2:18 am
The Wac

awesome
2:19 am
ringedingdong

the country where you can smoke what ever you want - thank you! ; )
2:19 am
sprite

Lol Atalante! Utmost stubbornness more like!
2:19 am
The Wac

that sounds about right sprite
2:19 am
Atalante

that too!
2:19 am
sprite

Must confess I never smoked anything but cigarets. Makes me boring, I think. :)
2:20 am
The Wac

can't say that i've ever smoked anything
2:20 am
ringedingdong

uhhhhh... well you should try. better than any cigar
2:20 am
Krys10

ahhh, I just got to the rolling down the hill part of the puzzle.
2:20 am
The Wac

ham maybe
2:21 am
sprite

Gave up cigarets long time ago and never missed them. Guess babbling and sudoku and some other things keep me high enough. :)
2:21 am
The Wac

:) i honestly can't see any reason to smoke
2:21 am
Krys10

Done!!
2:22 am
The Wac

awesome!
2:22 am
sprite

WTG Krys!
2:22 am
Atalante

woot!
2:22 am
Atalante

I am nowhere near there! I found yesterday's easier than this one! I think my mind works strangely
2:23 am
Krys10

I am trying to convince DrG to make a banner that says
<insert name here> gets fireworks!!
**++**++ etc when someone finishes
2:23 am
sprite

That would be nice!
2:23 am
Krys10

He says it's not necessary since we always announce it ourselves :)
2:23 am
The Wac

definitely make it worth finishing
2:24 am
sprite

Lolllllll!
I love Dr_God. Am close to finishing, but I keep chatting too much.
2:24 am
Krys10

suggest it to him too - he might go for it if it's not just me. I'm surprised I've been able to get the Kakuro idea as far along as I have.
2:24 am
Krys10

good night, all. Will probably tackle babble tomorrow (day off), or tonight if I can't sleep.
2:24 am
The Wac

goodnight!
2:24 am
Atalante

hi sprite, were you here yesterday when Dr_G said the word list in Babble is going to get its own scrollbar? How cool is that!
2:25 am
sprite

Okay, Dr_God: I am for both the Kakuro and the Fireworks idea! Night Krys, it was fun with you again :)
2:25 am
Krys10

I wish he wouldn't move the chat box up, though
2:25 am
Krys10

on babble. I like the stats panel where it is
2:25 am
Atalante

mmm yes, same here
2:26 am
sprite

That's great, that scroll bar. I think I like the chat enter box on top, but where would the stats panel go then?
2:26 am
Krys10

I'd prefer to have the stats panel within view and teh chat log at the bottom where it's easier to ignore if it's really busy
2:27 am
Atalante

It would be good if we could have a view of, say, the last 5 chat log entries. then it wouldn't take up so much space
2:27 am
ringedingdong

i would like some more options. for example "clear all", "clear an specified group of fields" (9) or clear all markings...
2:27 am
sprite

But can't we have the chatlog right where it is, just with the enter box on top? No need to move the stats panel then.
2:27 am
Krys10

he's working on a clear all button. I would also like a clear all green numbers button.
2:28 am
Krys10

maybe that's what he meant, sprite
2:28 am
Atalante

*nods* that would be perfect
2:28 am
Krys10

maybe i misunderstood when he said he was moving the chat box to the top.
2:28 am
Atalante

and can someone tell him to please please give us the total points score for the puzzle? It really helps when finding the last few words!
2:28 am
randomm

is it possible to clear the whole board?
2:29 am
sprite

lol, including the given ones :)
2:29 am
Krys10

not yet, randomm.. sadly... soon.
atalante, I always get that info from babbleAnon.
2:29 am
Anne

Is there a solution site to yesterdays puzzle for dummies (well me) who could not complete it ?
2:29 am
Krys10

yes, anne, look under archives (save first!)
2:29 am
Atalante

well so do I if necessary ... but I don't like looking at Babanon - I try and only look at the babble site
2:30 am
Krys10

no A2Z either? discipline!
2:30 am
sprite

I never use babanon. When I get really stuck at the end, I've always got you guys to point me in the right direction. Much more fun :)
2:30 am
Anne

Thanks Krys. I hope todays is easier
2:31 am
Atalante

certainly no A2Z! That I refuse to use except in emergencies, and I'm really trying to train myself not to use babanon. I can usually manage it now
2:31 am
Krys10

sprite you need it less than the rest of us (most of us) I think :)
2:31 am
The Wac

can i just say that i'm aggravated with this now
2:31 am
Atalante

though I did have to use the list for the last 9 words yesterday. Was very annoying
2:32 am
sprite

I do need you guys. Both for the chat and for finding words I am blind to.
Wac, keep faith!
2:32 am
Krys10

that's why i need to quit Babble - to play "right" takes so much longer. I like Sudoku better.
Bummer, Wac.
2:32 am
sprite

A2Z only in emergencies. Like K-words, lol.
2:32 am
Krys10

I love K words!
2:32 am
Krys10

kestral...
2:32 am
Atalante

K words are hell!
2:32 am
Atalante

closely followed by A words
2:32 am
Krys10

klaxon (or is it only with a k in french?)
2:33 am
Atalante

kleptomaniacal
2:33 am
sprite

Well, okay, that would be a nice one.
2:33 am
Krys10

if only it had a u, it could go in my list
2:33 am
Atalante

unkleptomaniacal?
2:34 am
Krys10

ooh, sprite, i thought of another the other day: bougainvillea!
2:34 am
bzikofski

this one is very easy. easier than ysterday. should be marked "easy"
2:34 am
Atalante

wow! great one!
2:34 am
Krys10

I was pleased, yes. Ok, everyone, good night!
2:35 am
The Wac

ah crap
2:35 am
The Wac

goodnight krys
2:35 am
sprite

Nice! Nite Krys.
2:37 am
sprite

Done too. Have a great day/night/whatever and happy reasoning :)
2:37 am
The Wac

see you
2:37 am
Atalante

yay sprite!
2:39 am
Cremlae

Hi all!
2:39 am
The Wac

hola
2:39 am
flarfu

hey
2:40 am
The Wac

ah heck i'm done and out
2:40 am
The Wac

see you all later
2:41 am
Cremlae

Good night!
2:45 am
Cremlae

I guess I'm disappearing as well. G'night, everyone!
2:45 am
lula

i finished it hurrah
2:45 am
Cremlae

Nice!
3:07 am
guerro

bleh
3:09 am
flarfu

finished!
3:28 am
ramirez

where can i learn to play sudoku?
3:28 am
randomm

here!
3:29 am
randomm

read "how to play" and start playing
3:34 am
ramirez

thanks
3:35 am
guerro

you are welcome
3:37 am
guerro

suh weet finished
3:37 am
guerro

exactly 30 mins cool
3:37 am
guerro

im getting better
3:37 am
guerro

nite
3:37 am
randomm

congrats...
4:34 am
haggis10

It's amazing how a drink can clear your mind
4:35 am
haggis10

Was stuck for ages until i had a drink - fin now
4:37 am
Perks

Finished.
4:48 am
zymeck

damn you perks - get some work done!!
4:56 am
Anne

Success ! Now for some babble time !
6:43 am
Pacocheese

Yayce!
6:59 am
raerae7133

good morning
6:59 am
the_man_stephen

morning!
7:07 am
meredith0715

Good Morning!!!
7:07 am
raerae7133

How goes?
7:07 am
meredith0715

Still trying to wake up...you?
7:08 am
the_man_stephen

just waking up to this!
7:08 am
meredith0715

Yeah, weird huh? lol
7:08 am
raerae7133

I thought I was doing good, but now I'm stuck
7:08 am
the_man_stephen

ditto
7:11 am
Goldthang

Greetings all..
7:12 am
zyang

first try here
7:13 am
raerae7133

Is it wrong that I'm using the green numbers to work out a guess? :)
7:13 am
meredith0715

I don't have green numbers
7:13 am
zyang

its if u think they may be the right number
7:13 am
raerae7133

when the number selection window popus up, hold shift and click the number you want
7:13 am
meredith0715

Oh ok, THanks!
7:14 am
zyang

i try going row by row. make use of the fixed numbers
7:14 am
raerae7133

you can put red numbers by holding alt (option on mac)
7:14 am
SIGINT

im seeing all red numbers here, and im stuck now... i think i need to step away for a bit...
7:15 am
EvilBernd

mhm - those green numbers look nice
7:18 am
zyang

ok i'm stuck
7:18 am
raerae7133

I kind of feel like I cheated
7:18 am
chebuctonian

zyang: need help?
7:18 am
zyang

yah
7:18 am
chebuctonian

how many have you got so far?
7:19 am
raerae7133

instead of filling in numbers the right way, I just guessed and used the green numbers so I could erase them easily if the guess was wrong
7:19 am
raerae7133

but it turns out my guess was right so.. I dunno :)
7:19 am
zyang

i got the top and btm squares done
7:19 am
puzzleandi

do you know why my puzzle is "jumping" on the page?
7:19 am
chebuctonian

haha, haxored, you shouldn't ever have to guess
7:19 am
chebuctonian

zyang: you're only missing the middle band?
7:20 am
zyang

yah, but no matter how i change... they light up...
7:20 am
raerae7133

chebuctonian, true. But it's too early to be layering logic :)
7:20 am
chebuctonian

hmm... you may have mistakes in the top and bottom then. it only lights up for "obvious" conflicts- 2 same numbers on one row/col
7:21 am
zyang

ok i think i'll have a break
7:21 am
zyang

be back later...
7:21 am
mygravity

This is neat!
7:21 am
raerae7133

okay, time to get ready for work
7:22 am
meredith0715

Bye
7:28 am
chebuctonian

yay!
7:29 am
chebuctonian

hah.. I should have kept a screen shot before entering the last number. now I can't really drop hints anymore :(
7:53 am
Goldthang

hey im new here.. how do i reset the puzzle?
7:54 am
bunnyvicious

If you haven't saved, just exit the page and come back.
7:55 am
Goldthang

kewl thanks!
8:38 am
gray

That one seemed easier than yesterday. Didn'
8:39 am
gray

Didn't have to guess at all... maybe I'm just getting better at this game... :)
8:39 am
gray

later
8:44 am
Danno

think they are getting easier
8:50 am
redguy

yes, this one just sort of came together. Once I got the board filled out, I think it took me about 60 seconds.
8:52 am
Ricey

basically you never have to guess - thats the point of a sudoku
9:26 am
usagi

that was much easier than the last couple
9:50 am
Atalante

just finished. with guessing. I'm strange, I think, I found yesterday's a lot easier than this one
9:56 am
zatrix

why would you guess.....that defeats the point of the game
9:57 am
Tillinghast

i'm sorry, that's not true.
9:57 am
hexx54

sup zatrix
9:57 am
Tillinghast

it depends on how you're defining "guess", i guess.
9:57 am
naruto

there's no need to guess. every square can be determined through logic
9:57 am
zatrix

thank you naruto
9:57 am
zatrix

i wasnt aware guessing needs to be "defined" :P
9:57 am
Tillinghast

i agree, it's a logic puzzle. but certain leaps of faith.
9:58 am
zatrix

sup hexx
9:58 am
Tillinghast

are required.
9:59 am
Tillinghast

at least, in my meagre experience.
9:59 am
raggedyandy3478

how are they doing rankings?
9:59 am
zatrix

thats what im saying, they ARENT required, haha who cares anyway :)
9:59 am
Tillinghast

right, i'm not trying to be an ass, here. :D
9:59 am
naruto

i don't mean any offense by this, but perhaps you just need to see or learn more techniques
10:00 am
Tillinghast

that's probably true. but for a starter, some of the more complex methodologies are not apparent.
10:00 am
zatrix

but big words like "methodologies" are :P haha cheers
10:00 am
naruto

keep playing, you'll learn the new methodologies eventually
10:01 am
Tillinghast

oh, i know. if, however, you were to be very dogmatic about "NO GUESSING" i could see how many would be put off by the game.
10:01 am
wwd

actually, that's what makes it challenging
10:01 am
zatrix

exactly
10:02 am
Tillinghast

ok. when you're all using the term "guessing" are you meaning "filling out random numbers and see what happens?"
10:02 am
davidtoc

guessing is a valid way of solving the puzzles, tho, even if it isn't necessary.
10:03 am
zatrix

the only reason its valid is because it "sometimes" works
10:03 am
Tillinghast

because to an extent, i would view dots in the margin as guessing.
10:03 am
wwd

that's true, but i feel a heck of a lot better when i made it somewhere logically than by dumb luck
10:03 am
davidtoc

actually, it could always work. it just takes longer.
10:03 am
Tillinghast

.... hmmm.
10:04 am
davidtoc

if a box has to be a 1 or a 3, u guess, and go from there. when you hit a contradiction, you know your guess was wrong and what the right answer is.
10:04 am
Tillinghast

basically a trial and error approach.
10:04 am
zatrix

argh i dont want to calculate probabilities of the chances you could finish the puzzle by purely guessing and make no mistakes
10:05 am
zatrix

davidtoc, you're not supposed to guess those, you're supposed to move on and find something that you know for sure, thats the point
10:05 am
Tillinghast

:D oh, come on zatrix. it's a number game. you should be all over figuring up the probability.
10:05 am
davidtoc

we all guess to a certain degree. we look at a box and say, "this has to be a one or a three. if it's a one, then that means..."
10:05 am
davidtoc

the "if it's a one" is guessing,
10:05 am
davidtoc

even if you don't write it down.
10:06 am
innate

thats not guessing thats predicting
10:06 am
zatrix

lol omg lets not have a philosophical debate
10:06 am
WNxNukeem

if this is a one, that has to be here, creating a conflict here is not guessing, thats elimination
10:06 am
Tillinghast

exactly. another method. a number trap.
10:06 am
SaintNick

Man - that was painful at first, but once the dam broke, not bad!
10:07 am
davidtoc

guessing is elimination too.
10:07 am
davidtoc

i'm still waiting for the dam to break, SaintNick
10:07 am
zatrix

guessing is not elimination
10:07 am
SaintNick

Guessing is a possible elimination. You could be working on hunches that are correct though!
10:07 am
WNxNukeem

I just finished todays in under 5 mins
10:07 am
zatrix

guessing may lead to elimination but its not a direct connection
10:08 am
WNxNukeem

I am wondering what the harder ones are like on this site
10:08 am
Tillinghast

i would say there are any number of "guessing" styles. one would be just filling in random numbers, seeing what fits, and moving on. highly inefficient. to a lesser degree, marginal notation is guessing, but it's a more logical sort.
10:08 am
Tillinghast

because it at least forces you to think first.
10:09 am
davidtoc

not everyone's brain works the same. some people can't handle the type of logic you and i use to solve these. some people rely on hunches and things like that.
10:09 am
davidtoc

so for them, maybe guessing is the superior method.
10:09 am
davidtoc

i can't relate to that directly, but i certainly have friends who can.
10:09 am
Tillinghast

an easier method, a simpler method. not necessarily the better method, in that it's very inefficient.
10:10 am
WNxNukeem

One a day medium's are killing me
10:10 am
WNxNukeem

I think 3 a day each successively harder would be fun
10:11 am
WNxNukeem

Then the rankings would get really interesting
10:11 am
Tillinghast

... wow. i'd never get any work done.
10:11 am
davidtoc

it's not inefficient if the "logical" method doesn't work for someone.
10:11 am
twofisted

does anybody know of another site that sets up the sudoku like this - the ability to pencil, etc
10:12 am
zatrix

like i said, it doesnt matter if you guess or not, i was just saying it defeats the whole challenging aspect of the puzzle, because this puzzle like most puzzle are geared to work on the logic, not on how well you can guess/predict/read the cards (lol)
10:12 am
Tillinghast

it's inefficient in that it would take longer. there would be more placement, removal, placement, removal. the quickest (efficiency by speed) method would be to know all of the logical number traps.
10:12 am
davidtoc

some people are so logical that they can't imagine any other way of solving a puzzle like this. but there are other ways, even if they don't work as well for you or for me.
10:13 am
wwd

chill ppl
10:13 am
wwd

chill ppl
10:13 am
wwd

chill
10:13 am
wwd

chill
10:14 am
davidtoc

i tend to agree with you, Tillinghast. i certainly couldn't do one by guessing, as frustrated as I get with them sometimes.

10:14 am
davidtoc

i tend to agree with you, Tillinghast. i certainly couldn't do one by guessing, as frustrated as I get with them sometimes.


10:14 am
TP17

I know that I use -- I guess they would be logical number traps (although I don't know what they are), but I've only guessed in a handful of situations, and it was one of those, "it could be a 1 or a 3" and I have exhausted all my brain's capacity up to that point
10:15 am
davidtoc

and did u solve it by guessing?
10:32 am
Dr_God

Sorry about that, folks. The server decided to take a little nap.
10:36 am
Vagabond

wee, get to fill in half my puzzle again ;)
10:36 am
bex777

same here!!!!
10:37 am
zatrix

me too lol
10:37 am
tina

I didn't lose anything.
10:37 am
dplass

lol
10:39 am
Vagabond

now, I just need to remember that mental leap that had gotten me unstalled...
10:40 am
dplass

augh another "HARD" medium. why can't we have an EXPERT like earlier this week that was EASY
10:40 am
dplass

or am I just a moron.

(don't answer that)
10:40 am
terfle

I am glad someone else thinks this is hard, I'm stuck
10:40 am
jase

hehehe
10:40 am
dplass

i haven't gotten the last 2 days :(
10:40 am
dplass

jase you missed hte whole ex-tci crowd last night :P
10:40 am
jase

it's okay, i forgive you ;)
10:41 am
jase

i know - i was too busy doing the happy hour thing
10:42 am
TP17

davidtoc: I just use the 'guessing' technique to get to a point where I can use logic to figure out the rest of the boxes
10:43 am
sherox

before guessing try using logic on the top three rows and then the middle column! that helped me...
10:43 am
dplass

sherox, no spoilers please
10:44 am
sherox

only moaning n groaning
10:48 am
Vagabond

hah, I'm going in a totally different direction after that server downtime
10:49 am
MCMikeNamara

wow - first one ever completed... woohoo for me
11:05 am
rnarzisi

that was a good one
11:09 am
chu

that one was too easy
11:11 am
TP17

Bingo
11:19 am
tina

Done. No guesses.
11:20 am
rnarzisi

isn't the whole point of sudoku to figure it our with logic and no guessing?
11:21 am
System

my name is Sev3
11:22 am
twofisted

Actually, the point of sukodu is to play a game that you enjoy, whatever your methods
11:23 am
jojomnky

agreed
11:23 am
jed2026

Actually, the point of sudoku is delaying real work as long as you can...
11:23 am
gabrielboys

seriously if you could guess the whole thing that would be pretty impressive in itself
11:23 am
gabrielboys

seriously if you could guess the whole thing that would be pretty impressive in itself
11:23 am
gabrielboys

sorry
11:23 am
gabrielboys

did not mean to post that repeatedly
11:24 am
tina

I tried it once. It gets VERY complicated.
11:30 am
twofisted

Done
11:33 am
meredith0715

woo hoo I completed it! WOW!
11:39 am
jed2026

has anyone else gotten to the point where you're juggling maybe six different possibilities, and your mind takes care of it subconciously, and you fill them all in without knowing what just happened?
11:39 am
jed2026

or is it just me...
11:39 am
Jiraya

that's ninja
11:40 am
Jiraya

i've gotten to the point where i'm juggling six different possibilities and my mind short circuits and I go out in a fit of rage
11:40 am
jed2026

or blaze of glory
11:40 am
terfle

HI CARI
11:40 am
Jiraya

yeah :-)
11:40 am
sharp925

Hi Terfle!
11:50 am
MotiveForce

Durp dee durp
11:50 am
MotiveForce

Durp
11:51 am
MotiveForce

yo
11:56 am
Ranger

aloha
11:57 am
sharp925

Tim...shouldn't we be working?
11:58 am
Atalante

Dr_G? Are you there?
12:02 pm
Phox

It seems when you get down to 28 boxes left, you have no choice but to make a guess and follow your path.
12:03 pm
Tigereye

I managed the whole puzzle without a single guess
12:04 pm
Assman

tigereye, nobodylikes a showoff
12:05 pm
Tigereye

I didn't mean it to show off, just saying that its possible without gessing
12:07 pm
soshdin

I like a show off.
12:07 pm
davidtoc

how many people do these without paper and pencil/pen?
12:07 pm
nancymcp

I just did but it nearly gave me a stroke.
12:09 pm
Assman

soshdin,
12:09 pm
nancymcp

whoa, next time RTFM Nancy. I just found out how to do pencil marks. That was what was killing me.
12:10 pm
iLuke

i can't seem to get pencil marks to work on os x / safari or firefox :-\
12:10 pm
haZe

"pencil marks" work for me (safari)
12:11 pm
iLuke

haze: alt + click, right ? am i missing someing ?
12:11 pm
haZe

10.4?
12:11 pm
iLuke

19,3
12:11 pm
iLuke

erm 10.3
12:11 pm
haZe

that could be it :)
12:11 pm
haZe

yep, alt click and shift click
12:11 pm
iLuke

:-\ yay...
12:11 pm
haZe

they *should* work in firefox though..
12:12 pm
raggedyandy3478

im used to using other sudoku sites, these seem like this site requires other logistics than other, any suggestions?
12:12 pm
iLuke

yay, i mean, 10.4 has safari 2.0 with it, but i'm using the latest version of FF
12:13 pm
haZe

try enabling access for assitive devices (from system pref)
12:13 pm
haZe

and if that doesn't work.. upgrade! :op
12:13 pm
iLuke

oh well... i consider it a chalenge: you shouldn't *need* pencil marks, right?! hehe
12:14 pm
haZe

good luck then :p
12:14 pm
nancymcp

well. that's true. I got too dependent on using them in Simple Sudoku.
12:14 pm
iLuke

lol
12:21 pm
bish

yay, 4s done.
12:21 pm
Assman

hey bish,
12:22 pm
raggedyandy3478

im rather new to ironsudoku, any suggestions?
12:22 pm
Assman

yeah,
12:24 pm
hexx54

have fun
12:24 pm
hexx54

have fun
12:26 pm
Assman

have sex
12:27 pm
Assman

ban!
12:30 pm
X

...hm...I'm new...what's this about sex? XD
12:31 pm
hexx54

nothing ASSMAN is a douchebag
12:31 pm
raggedyandy3478

apparently that is how you win at sudokue
12:31 pm
raggedyandy3478

*sudoku
12:31 pm
bzikofski

am i right or wrong, there is one moment where you just have to guess, there's no way to logically eliminate position of the number.. ?
12:31 pm
X

*giggling* riiiight...I should brush up on my techniques, then? XD
12:33 pm
Assman

hexx54, thanx for noticing, was wondering when someone would...
12:33 pm
Jiraya

you should never have to guess
12:33 pm
X

may I ask what a douchebag is? *ignorant*
12:33 pm
X

may I ask what a douchebag is? *ignorant*
12:33 pm
X

...er, unless it's something I don't want to know :/
12:34 pm
bzikofski

Jiraya: i mean, you have to put the numbers and then go until there is an error. then go back and try to switch numbers and etc..
12:34 pm
jed2026

I was able to do it without guessing, but there is a point where you have to work a few steps ahead and eliminate
12:34 pm
Jiraya

not really, you should be able to only write a number when there are no other choices
12:34 pm
jed2026

seems this was a little more difficult than 'medium'
12:35 pm
raggedyandy3478

ill say
12:35 pm
Jiraya

this one seems to start easy
12:35 pm
Jiraya

but now i'm stuck
12:35 pm
Jiraya

28 open spaces, as mentioned before...
12:36 pm
X

Jiraya, join the club :/ (says the one who has entered...ooh, two numbers)
12:36 pm
bzikofski

jed2026, that's what i'm talking about. difficult puzzles are about this only - step ahead and eliminate wrong positions
12:40 pm
woody

man that took a while... had to back track. but it's done!
12:40 pm
X

wow...congratulations, Woody! *in awe*
12:40 pm
dplass

CRAO
12:41 pm
jenschnid

one row done! ... something tells me the rest of this isn't going to be as easy
12:41 pm
dplass

crap
12:41 pm
dplass

crap
12:41 pm
dplass

crap
12:41 pm
dplass

what happend to the 'clear all' we were promised
12:41 pm
woody

was stuck at an impasse for about 30 min. went and did something else. when I came back I saw one thing that opened it up for me.
12:41 pm
woody

crazy what happend when you stare at one of these puzzles for too long!
12:42 pm
dplass

crap
12:42 pm
haZe

that was NOT a medium puzzle
12:43 pm
dplass

haze: harder than medium? or easier?
12:43 pm
haZe

done nonetheless (and no guessing)
12:43 pm
haZe

good luck everybody
12:43 pm
haZe

harder harder :)
12:43 pm
X

*in awe again* nice one, haZe :)
12:43 pm
dplass

starting over
12:43 pm
X

dplass, mind if I join you in that? :/
12:43 pm
dplass

:(
12:43 pm
haZe

if you just can't go foward, clean the board, wait a couple of hours and start again
12:43 pm
dplass

i was ()thisclose
12:44 pm
haZe

worked for me :)
12:44 pm
haZe

bye!
12:44 pm
dplass

i hate not having 'clear all' or at least 'clear all pencilmarks'
12:44 pm
mzhokie

DG is working on a clear all button, be patient
12:44 pm
X

bye, haZe, and well done!
12:46 pm
X

argh! annoying, dplass, but...at least you got close! *knows she will never have a chance* :)
12:49 pm
bzikofski

yeah. i'm done too. there is an impasse with 2 digits in the top right and top left
12:50 pm
X

nice one, bzikofski! :) and thanks for the tip
12:50 pm
hexx54

how do u no if ur rite?
12:50 pm
dplass

hexx54 ?
12:51 pm
hexx54

yes?
12:51 pm
bzikofski

hexx54: i chose 1 path.. it was right :)
12:51 pm
hexx54

no does it say anything after your done
12:51 pm
dplass

yes, it tells you right away
12:51 pm
hexx54

ok
12:51 pm
bzikofski

so i suppose if i swapped the digits it'd be wrong
12:52 pm
bzikofski

ahh ok sorry hexx..;) didnt get ya
12:52 pm
hexx54

its cool thx anyway
12:56 pm
X

wahey...is anyone else seeing double?
1:01 pm
MDFreaK76

hello
1:02 pm
X

Ooooh my gosh...I just discovered the hard way the grid will clear everything if you go check the rules or whatever...
1:02 pm
X

...I think I need a hug :/
1:03 pm
MDFreaK76

ouch
1:03 pm
mzhokie

just click on the save the current puzzle once in a while as you go along
1:04 pm
mzhokie

how many of us just clicked on save when we read that too? :)
1:04 pm
X

heh...luckily I hadn't gotten very far XD (don't think I ever will, either...) thanks mzhokie...I, er, will do that in future...
1:04 pm
X

*saves RIGHT NOW*
1:04 pm
MDFreaK76

guilty
1:05 pm
X

hah...now I'm paranoid...saving after every letter :)
1:07 pm
dplass

X: i do that all the time
1:07 pm
mzhokie

I do save after every number that I'm 100% positive about
1:08 pm
X

phew...so it's not just me then :) though...100% positive? what's that? XD
1:12 pm
X

(in that case, has anyone else spent several minutes figuring out exaaaactly where a letter should go in a 3x3 box - and then discovered it's already there?)
1:12 pm
dplass

you can put LETTERs int he box?
1:12 pm
MDFreaK76

oh man i got this game all wrong ;)
1:12 pm
X

letter? I am...more tired than I think
1:12 pm
X

*blushing*
1:13 pm
MDFreaK76

X u need a beer
1:14 pm
X

please...I'm seeing double already! :)
1:14 pm
mzhokie

sometimes it's easier for me to print it out and work with a pencil. then come back and fill it in. maybe it's just the change of venue, not sure why but it helps
1:15 pm
MDFreaK76

i'm the same way but i can only play this game in the bathroom
1:15 pm
MDFreaK76

my legs are falling asleep
1:16 pm
dplass

MDFreaK76: you're in the bathroom?
1:16 pm
plank

woo, done
1:16 pm
MDFreaK76

congrats
1:16 pm
X

nice one, Plank!
1:16 pm
plank

first time i actually finished one on here :)
1:16 pm
MDFreaK76

yeah i been sitting here for like 2 hours
1:17 pm
X

wow! extra congrats then...*fireworks*
1:17 pm
mzhokie

why the bathroom?
1:17 pm
MDFreaK76

why not? its quiet and my boss cant find me in here
1:18 pm
mzhokie

ahhhh hiding from the boss, I get that answer
1:18 pm
X

*giggling* you're playing at work? naughty naughty XD
1:18 pm
MDFreaK76

cheers
1:18 pm
wwd

it's sudoku, not sudookie.... hehe
1:18 pm
MDFreaK76

cute.
1:19 pm
mzhokie

playing at work is why I would print it up! it can then be tucked into a file or stack of papers when you need to hide it
1:19 pm
MDFreaK76

oooorrrr.... take your laptop into the bathroom
1:19 pm
X

crafty! XD playing the innocent...
1:20 pm
MDFreaK76

you think anyone will notice the ethernet wire running across the office into the bathroom?
1:20 pm
X

okay...my eyes are growing another layer, I think. Time to go get my nosebag on. good luck, everyone!
1:20 pm
MDFreaK76

c'ya
1:23 pm
bex777

hiya everyone!!!!
1:23 pm
MDFreaK76

hi
1:24 pm
hurshy

hi bex!!!!
1:24 pm
bex777

hiya hurshy!! how u doing???
1:24 pm
hurshy

pretty good, bex, how about you?
1:25 pm
bex777

i good thanks!!! just been dancing!!!
1:25 pm
hurshy

hmmm... maybe i should take up dancing, since it seems to make you feel so good
1:25 pm
SIGINT

Thank goodness I finished it. Else I'd be restless for the whole night...
1:26 pm
bex777

have u finished babble??????
1:27 pm
hurshy

yup, just finished there and started here.
1:27 pm
hurshy

i had done 130-something last night.
1:27 pm
hurshy

i have a bit of a headache from staying up so late.
1:28 pm
bex777

i dont stay up very late doin the puzzzles but do about an hour before i go to school
1:29 pm
hurshy

i'm a teacher on spring break, that is the only reason i stayed up late. if it were school time i wouldn't.
1:29 pm
ozbroomy

oi oi oi
1:29 pm
bex777

are you a teacher???
1:30 pm
hurshy

yes bex :)
1:30 pm
ozbroomy

i'll teach you a thing or two
1:30 pm
bex777

cool!! in a primary school?
1:31 pm
hurshy

no, high school.
1:32 pm
bex777

back in aminute
1:33 pm
woody

ozbroomy -- 3:30, no later!
1:34 pm
bex777

im bac
1:34 pm
hurshy

oh goody
1:35 pm
MDFreaK76

oh man i really screwed the pooch on this one
1:36 pm
MDFreaK76

first row, middle column, wheres the 1 go?
1:36 pm
bex777

havent put it in yet
1:40 pm
MDFreaK76

how do i clear the whole puzzle?
1:40 pm
hurshy

if you have not saved, clear by refreshing
1:40 pm
hurshy

if you have, you must clear each number (Dr_G is working on it)
1:40 pm
nineless

hehe, hello everyone, just started, Dutch so not so much English knowledge, 1st row middle column which one is that? the one below the most topleft block or the one right of it?
1:40 pm
MDFreaK76

ok thx
1:42 pm
Linda

nineless - 1st row middle column the one to the right of the topleft block
1:43 pm
nineless

thanks Linda n__n now back to playing sudoku
1:52 pm
X

urgh...I just navigated away to have my progress all destroyed...AGAIN...(some people never learn >_<)
1:58 pm
hexx54

WOOHOO
1:58 pm
hexx54

DONE!!!:)
1:58 pm
hexx54

Took a break, and the numbers just came to me
1:59 pm
bex777

yey!!! im finished!!!
1:59 pm
hurshy

good for you, bex!!
2:00 pm
bex777

im off to babble now!!! hurshy are u still on babble??
2:01 pm
hurshy

still logged on, but not paying attention
2:01 pm
hurshy

if you want a clue, you could always come ask me here :)
2:01 pm
bex777

okie dokie i will speak to you very very very soon im stuck on 13 words!!!!
2:02 pm
hurshy

:)
2:15 pm
bex777

hurshy wil you help me???? please!!
2:15 pm
hurshy

of course, bex, what do you need
2:16 pm
nineless

help...? Can we ask for help.... O___O
2:16 pm
hurshy

(she wants babble help)
2:16 pm
bex777

the m's i have the old story but cant get the other one
2:16 pm
hurshy

it's a kind of bird that can talk
2:16 pm
hurshy

if you haven't heard of it... you add the chemical symbol for sodium.
2:17 pm
nineless

O__O? Is that about Sudoku Hurshy?
2:17 pm
hurshy

no, babble
2:17 pm
bex777

thanks!!!!!!!
2:18 pm
Sulihin

nineless!
2:18 pm
nineless

Yes Sulihin?
2:18 pm
Sulihin

spell my name backwards :)
2:18 pm
nineless

O_O
2:18 pm
nineless

I just noticed indeed... Nihilus~! Har, now I'll get ya~!
2:24 pm
nineless

Oooh, can anyone give me a tip, simply answering yes or no on the following question? Is the most center number a 3? @_@
2:25 pm
hurshy

no
2:25 pm
dplass

please don't give hints
2:25 pm
EvilBernd

oh great - no tips here please
2:25 pm
nineless

okay thanks n__n
2:26 pm
hurshy

hmm... we need dr_g to set up a separate room for hints
2:26 pm
hurshy

or maybe if you're giving a hint, you make that post appear blank unless someone clicks on it
2:27 pm
hurshy

of course i don't know how hard any of that would be
2:27 pm
mzhokie

well on babble you can turn the chat off, can you do that here?
2:27 pm
nineless

Can't you colour your text white so that only people who want can go select and read it?
2:27 pm
hurshy

yes, just click on another tab like who's online or my friends
2:27 pm
Sulihin

i use to go to the 'my friends' tab if i didn't want chatter
2:28 pm
EvilBernd

well clicking on "my friends" would do so, but giving hints is a bad practice i think
2:28 pm
hurshy

but some people might want to chat but not see hints
2:28 pm
EvilBernd

if you don't succeed - you don't succeed
2:28 pm
hurshy

evil - it's only bad if people who don't want them are forced to see them.
2:28 pm
bex777

on this you cant really give a hint u have to tel someone where the number goes!!1
2:28 pm
Sulihin

yeah another room might work
2:28 pm
hurshy

many of us came here from babble, and we always help each other out - it's what we're used to.
2:29 pm
hurshy

well bex, someone asked if a box was a certain number as a yes or no question
2:29 pm
bex777

talkin about help hurshy!!!???
2:29 pm
EvilBernd

but i think its not about solving, but reaching as far as you can
2:29 pm
Sulihin

it's also nice for learning for people new to sudoku to see how others come to a solution
2:29 pm
hurshy

i think that is a reasonable level of hint
2:29 pm
hurshy

evil, of course, you need not give or take hints, but, you know, it is a free country and all :)
2:30 pm
hurshy

bex, does that mean you need more babble help?
2:30 pm
bex777

yes!!!
2:30 pm
bex777

y 5???
2:30 pm
hurshy

go for it :)
2:30 pm
hurshy

oh, it sounds just like y4 (i had trouble with that one too)
2:31 pm
nineless

Woohooo, first block fully filled n___n thanks for the clue Hurshy
2:31 pm
hurshy

dr_g, you listening? what can we do about hints so that people who don't want them can chat but not see them?
2:31 pm
hurshy

yw, nineless
2:32 pm
bex777

hurshy do i just add a letter on the end?
2:32 pm
hurshy

no, switch the vowel
2:33 pm
bex777

ahhhh!! got it now thanks!!!!!!
2:33 pm
mzhokie

can you hide the hints on babble? if not then I doubt he can do that.
2:33 pm
Sulihin

it's technically possible, shrug
2:34 pm
hurshy

you can hide the whole chat log either place
2:35 pm
hurshy

but in babble it is easier not too see them, if you look at the chat log it is pretty clear which posts have hints bc they are usually in a certain form, so you quickly look past them
2:36 pm
hurshy

plus the chat log is below the grid in babble
2:36 pm
hurshy

so you don't have to hide it per se in order not to see it
2:37 pm
hurshy

hmm, what if we were to do hidden hints?
2:37 pm
hurshy

like with nineless's yes/no question, maybe i could have done something like this:
2:38 pm
hurshy

HINT CONTAINED HERE - BEWARE: if you go to the store today there is no way you will get any milk
2:38 pm
hurshy

would that be sufficient to prevent you from seeing the hint if you didn't want to?
2:39 pm
dplass

crap stuck
2:40 pm
hurshy

of course this is mostly moot until dr_g makes it so we can still see our completed puzzles
2:41 pm
hurshy

spose i could have captured the screen right before i put in the last number
2:45 pm
mzhokie

you can't hit save at the end?
2:45 pm
hurshy

the whole puzzle goes away when you're done
2:45 pm
mzhokie

then why do you want to see it again?
2:45 pm
hurshy

it says CONGRATULATIONS! in its place
2:45 pm
mzhokie

it goes into archive the next day
2:45 pm
bex777

hurshy u finished?
2:46 pm
hurshy

i want to see it so i can give help to those that want it
2:46 pm
hurshy

yes bex
2:46 pm
hurshy

i've popped into the babble chat just now too, bex
2:46 pm
Twinkie

hi, i'm new to this. is there any way i can put in more than one number so that I know what's possible in a box?
2:47 pm
hurshy

yes twinkie, for full details read "how to play"
2:47 pm
AWening

is there any way to reset the puzzle>
2:47 pm
mzhokie

no clear all button yet AW
2:47 pm
AWening

that stinks
2:47 pm
mzhokie

this is new, they are working on it
2:48 pm
Stef

Oh God. I've shagged the whole thing up. Balls. Time to start again <sobs>
2:48 pm
Twinkie

thanks hurshy, that helped
2:49 pm
bstadil

One idea is to save a copy and then revert back to the saved version by going away from the site and come back
2:50 pm
Stef

Do i have to clear every individual box to get back to the very start?
2:52 pm
Sulihin

yeah :(
3:01 pm
bex777

hurshy did u finish this?
3:09 pm
eliot

well, i have a lot of possibilities marked...
3:13 pm
davidtoc

28 boxes left. sigh...
3:13 pm
davidtoc

i am seriously stuck
3:14 pm
hurshy

keep at it folks, you can do it!!
3:16 pm
Assman

no I cant, I am horrible!!!!
3:16 pm
jase

woohoo!
3:17 pm
jase

this one's a little tricky
3:17 pm
AWening

YEAH! Got it!
3:17 pm
jase

had to use some of the 1-off type logic here..
3:17 pm
Assman

all done... haha... NOT!
3:18 pm
jase

good luck ya'll!
3:18 pm
Assman

jase,
3:18 pm
Assman

stop cheating!
3:19 pm
jase

look assm. haha.
3:19 pm
Assman

hehe
3:19 pm
_Amelie

hello?
3:20 pm
hurshy

hello, amelie
3:20 pm
_Amelie

it's my first time here..
3:21 pm
Assman

all right everybody, all together now...
3:21 pm
Assman

WELCOME AMELIE!!!
3:21 pm
_Amelie

hi assman
3:21 pm
jix

i'm the first time here too
3:22 pm
Assman

whatever...
3:22 pm
Bailey

and I just joined too
3:22 pm
Assman

haha, just kidding
3:22 pm
_Amelie

a friend gave me the link to this side.. because i always do sudokus atschool
3:22 pm
hurshy

the site is only a few days old, so in a sense, we're all new
3:22 pm
jix

i found it through anarchaia
3:22 pm
Assman

WELCOME BAILEY & JIX & ...
3:23 pm
_Amelie

i thouhgt i'm something special @ assman ;o)))
3:23 pm
Bailey

I have been doing sudokus in the paper and this looks great
3:24 pm
jix

it would be cool to be able to mark fields...
3:24 pm
jix

it would be cool to be able to mark fields...
3:24 pm
Sulihin

you can
3:24 pm
jix

whoops sry for double post
3:24 pm
jix

i can?
3:24 pm
jix

how?
3:24 pm
evanadine

read "how to play" at the top
3:24 pm
beertje

Read "How to Play"? ;)
3:24 pm
Assman

Amelie, everybody's special... ooohhhh... isnt that sweeet..
3:24 pm
jix

ah missed that link ;)
3:24 pm
Sulihin

shift click to mark green, alt click to mark red
3:24 pm
_Amelie

where are you from?
3:25 pm
beertje

It's quite clever, although it didn't help me at all... restarting once again
3:25 pm
cshabsin

the chat room here doesn't really seem to lend itself to asking for, or offering, hints, do they?
3:25 pm
cshabsin

er, does it?
3:25 pm
Keith

done
3:25 pm
Keith

done
3:25 pm
jix

i think one shouldn't gibe hints here
3:25 pm
Keith

sorry
3:25 pm
jix

everyone who tries to solve this on his own reads this...
3:27 pm
shurzle

hi everyone
3:27 pm
shurzle

be nice....i'm new ha ha
3:28 pm
hurshy

we're hoping dr_god will find a way to make hints possible without making them in-your-face for those who don't want to see them
3:28 pm
hurshy

this site is still "under construction"
3:28 pm
Keith

good puzzle
3:31 pm
shurzle

gosh i'm stuck already!!
3:33 pm
Kemayo

This is so much easier than yesterday. I'm actually getting numbers *before* I've worked out potentials for the entire board...
3:33 pm
jix

What method do you prefer? Searching a number that fits a certain field or searching a field which belongs to some number? (i prefer searching a field for a given number)
3:33 pm
Kemayo

Number for a field feels more natural to me.
3:35 pm
jix

I'm not good at memorizing things if i search i field for a number i have to memorize one number if i do it the other way around i have to momorize 9 possibilities
3:36 pm
jix

maybe thats one reason for me being slow solving sudokus ;)
3:37 pm
Anj

OK, i'm back for more : )
3:41 pm
lola

Hey babe! Finished babble? : ) xx
3:41 pm
Anj

yup : )
3:45 pm
evanadine

(ANJ) (LOLA)
3:45 pm
lola

Hey evaN! ((evaN))
3:45 pm
Anj

Hi ((EvaN)) : )
3:45 pm
beertje

So most of you are babble players then?
3:46 pm
evanadine

attempting one without paper today...heh
3:46 pm
beertje

I found both today through 37signals :)
3:46 pm
Anj

bjornkri - some of us are. This is our punishment for finishing the Babble grid, lol.
3:46 pm
lola

yup! Have you tried babble bjorn? : )
3:46 pm
beertje

hehehe
3:47 pm
beertje

I've dabbled in babble
3:47 pm
beertje

*cough*
3:48 pm
beertje

Think I'll do it the other way around and finish this first.. but it's proving more difficult than I though. I thought I was pretty good at sudoku... just started the 4th time over and I'm terrified I'm getting stuch again
3:48 pm
beertje

stuck that is
3:50 pm
Anj

bjornkri, I started over at least 5 times yesterday. Then something clicked and I did it in about 15 mins : /
3:51 pm
lola

anj, that was me mentally projecting the answers to you ; )
3:52 pm
Anj

...what? The first 5?? ; )
3:52 pm
lola

...you didn't ask nice enough ; )
4:00 pm
dplass

crap it's 3 days in a row that the puzzle beat me
4:01 pm
Anj

hmm, i'm just starting over #1 : /
4:02 pm
lola

...see what happens when you're mean to me?? ; )
4:03 pm
hurshy

lol
4:03 pm
Anj

: ' (
4:03 pm
evanadine

i dont think im doing much better...heh
4:19 pm
Anj

wOOt! : D
4:20 pm
hurshy

congrats, anj
4:20 pm
lola

Yay! Well done babe! : ) xx
4:20 pm
Anj

Cheers Hurshy, Lola : ) Nailed it on take II today : )
4:21 pm
hurshy

same here anj
4:23 pm
Anj

It still feels like i'm guessing though : /
4:23 pm
lola

don't think I'm going to do it today : /
4:26 pm
Anj

Go for it Lola. It's a little harder than yesterday's I think but if you use Torgone's logic it should work : )
4:26 pm
lola

...hang on : )
4:27 pm
beertje

I'm getting so close it's painful..
4:30 pm
Anj

bjornski, If it's any help I completed 1 column quickly but no others (or rows) as there were too many options. I swicthed to boxes to reduce those options and it gelled from there : )
4:31 pm
lola

nope. back to the start *sigh* : /
4:31 pm
hurshy

i did not guess...
4:33 pm
torgone

If I can quit making dumb mistakes, I might get this one eventually ...
4:33 pm
raggedyandy3478

how do u restart the puzzle?
4:33 pm
blad

is it possible to do the previous ones?
4:34 pm
Anj

raggedy, if you haven't saved your progress go look at the rankings or rules and it should clear down. If not, it's manual for now...
4:34 pm
Anj

raggedy, if you haven't saved your progress go look at the rankings or rules and it should clear down. If not, it's manual for now...
4:34 pm
Anj

Blad, not on this site
4:34 pm
Yoink

only withreverse psychic powers
4:35 pm
lola

Hi yoink! : )
4:35 pm
Anj

HI Yoink, Torgone : )
4:35 pm
raggedyandy3478

ty for the help, thats too much work, im giving up on today, i have so much that is so screwed up that im good for 2day
4:36 pm
blad

oh ok
4:36 pm
beertje

Man, every box seems to have at least two options and I can't spot a way out
4:36 pm
Yoink

HI guys, don't know if I have the patience or the sobriety to finish this one
4:36 pm
raggedyandy3478

am i the only one that thinks this sudoku is hard?
4:36 pm
lola

yoink, the lack of sobriety may be of benefit...:/
4:37 pm
torgone

I have logic???
4:38 pm
guerro

[spock voice] I find your last statement, very.... illogical [/spock voice]
4:38 pm
lola

if this grid were on paper I'd have screwed it up and chucked it in the bin by now! : /
4:38 pm
guerro

rubbish!
4:39 pm
Anj

bjornkri, I thought that as well, but one or two boxes have just one option and they were the key for me : )
4:39 pm
Yoink

If I were sensible I'd have screwed up my monitor and thrown it in the bin by now
4:39 pm
beertje

I've got two boxes and three lines filled :P
4:39 pm
guerro

i actually had a way easier time with todays than I did with yesterday's
4:39 pm
beertje

Thought I was on the right track, and maybe I am
4:39 pm
lola

yoink, lol! : )
4:40 pm
Anj

Torgone, you're lucky. I'm running on illogic...
4:40 pm
Anj

Raggedy, the last two grids have been a little, er, challenging shall we say... : /
4:41 pm
lola

I keep coming to a complete standstill! (am I starting to sound whiney??)
4:41 pm
torgone

I like to go to websudoku and crash out a couple easy ones then come back here. It can remind me of simple techniques I forget ..
4:42 pm
Yoink

I'd like to print this sudoku out and eat it
4:42 pm
Yoink

stupid puzzle
4:42 pm
lola

yoink, slow down on the wine there mate...lol!
4:43 pm
torgone

Mmm. Sudoku with fava beans and a nice chianti ...
4:46 pm
beertje

Make mine a Rochefort 10
4:47 pm
lola

LOL!
4:48 pm
Yoink

can't... focus'... on... numbers
4:48 pm
beertje

Well I did what I shouldn't have and guessed
4:49 pm
beertje

I thought I'd guessed right until there were 3 numbers remaining... and they didn't add up :\
4:52 pm
raerae7133

shame on you
4:56 pm
Babbler

well well well, lookee where the party is!! heh heh :D
4:57 pm
lola

hey Babs! : )
4:57 pm
Babbler

hey Lo! :D
4:58 pm
Anj

Hi Babbler : )
4:58 pm
Babbler

not a bad grid! Hey Anj! :D
5:00 pm
torgone

Heya Babs >^_^<
5:00 pm
Babbler

Tor-Tor!! You remember me!! :D:D:D
5:00 pm
torgone

Of course!
5:01 pm
Babbler

missed you, mate. :D
5:06 pm
Kyle

This is pretty cool
5:06 pm
ahda

How do I clear the whole board?
5:07 pm
Anj

ahda, as long as you haven't saved your process, looking at the rules or rankings page should do that.
5:07 pm
Anj

process? progres... : /
5:07 pm
ahda

thank you...but I accidently saved it
5:07 pm
Anj

gah! P R O G R E S S ! my keyboard can't spell ; )
5:08 pm
lola

switch the light on babe... ; )
5:08 pm
Anj

ahda, in that case it's manual for now. I think a reset button might be on its way tho'
5:08 pm
ahda

cool..thanks a lot Anj
5:08 pm
Anj

It is on Lola, i've just got dyslexic fingers...
5:10 pm
beertje

Woohoo
5:11 pm
jonathanpoh

i think we need an 'undo' feature
5:11 pm
jonathanpoh

i think we need an 'undo' feature
5:11 pm
Kyle

Maybe color the default numbers a different color too
5:12 pm
beertje

They're on a grey background, aren't they?
5:12 pm
Kyle

oh, oops, LCD monitor, it's so light i can only see them when i set the angle just right :-P
5:12 pm
beertje

Thought that might be the case ;)
5:15 pm
Kyle

bah, i hate it when i get stuck lol
5:31 pm
scottru

medium my tush
5:31 pm
Babbler

I took a guess at one point, then felt I was walking in the dark till I finally got to the end. Most unusual puzzle today. : /
5:33 pm
beertje

about the same for me
5:34 pm
Kyle

yea i'm stuck again
5:34 pm
Ezpinaka

hola
5:34 pm
Kyle

been playing with Sudoku Companion for OSX
5:34 pm
ashling

hola
5:34 pm
scottru

a breakthrough?
5:38 pm
scottru

woo hoo! finished!
5:43 pm
euph

\o/
5:43 pm
euph

finally!
5:43 pm
euph

Only a little bit of luck :)
5:44 pm
Anj

Lola, how are you doing??
5:44 pm
benhiller

hey, i was just looking at the source code... this game could be sorta hacked really easily
5:44 pm
benhiller

like go here: http://ironsudoku.com/action/initialize_sudok
u
5:44 pm
benhiller

and it has the whole solution
5:44 pm
benhiller

and it has the whole solution
5:44 pm
benhiller

oops
5:44 pm
lola

still trying : )
5:45 pm
benhiller

heh
5:46 pm
Kyle

i entered all my numbers into Sudoku Companion where i can take notes lol
5:46 pm
Kyle

so far it's helped a little
5:56 pm
eliot

oh, crap. i didn't save what i did at work
5:57 pm
zatrix

oh crap is right
5:57 pm
eliot

that was silly of me
5:57 pm
peternl

oops
6:08 pm
jonathanpoh

does it help to try to complete the center region first?
6:08 pm
zatrix

no because it depends on how full the squares around it are
6:09 pm
jonathanpoh

i've redone this puzzle like 3 or 4 times now.. :(
6:09 pm
zatrix

you must be guessing?
6:09 pm
jonathanpoh

keep getting stuck towards the end.......
6:09 pm
jonathanpoh

no i've been doing the elimination
6:10 pm
zatrix

the reason you get stuck is you're forgetting to eliminate :)
6:10 pm
Kyle

this one is hard for me
6:10 pm
jonathanpoh

yeahh.. probbaly left out some possibilities
6:12 pm
Kyle

ah well, at least i have Last.fm to keep me company
6:12 pm
raggedyandy3478

i have labeled all of the eliminations and im stuck w/ only 1 full row filled in
6:15 pm
jonathanpoh

starting over... avoiding the top center, middle and bottom center regions now.. which i managed to fill in pretty early on in my previous attempts
6:16 pm
Kyle

you might want to reread the rules
6:16 pm
jonathanpoh

might have made a mistake there which made it all fail at the end
6:17 pm
lola

Yes! Finally did it! : )
6:17 pm
Anj

*surfaces from Last.fm* Yay! It's a beastie isn't it?
6:18 pm
Kyle

haha
6:18 pm
lola

yes, but it has been slayed! : )
6:18 pm
Kyle

Last.fm is playing me Mony Mony
6:19 pm
lola

are you feeling better babe? : )
6:19 pm
Anj

At least the radio works then. The recommendations filter is on the fritz at the mo... : /
6:20 pm
Anj

Lo, yes thanks : ) Not 100% but more positive than earlier...
6:21 pm
lola

good. I'll work on the rest next weekend then ; )
6:23 pm
Anj

LOL! I bet you will...
6:24 pm
lola

I meant I'll give you a shoulder massage and a pep talk! Really Mr Anj! ; ) xxx
6:25 pm
Anj

Is that what they call it now then? ; )
6:25 pm
lola

LOL! You naughty boy! ; )
6:26 pm
zatrix

GET A ROOM! :P
6:31 pm
ashling

woo!
6:31 pm
lola

sorry zatrix : ) Anj, you got mail babe : )
6:31 pm
Ezpinaka

what is woo?
6:32 pm
ashling

woo i finished
6:32 pm
Ezpinaka

;p
6:32 pm
Ezpinaka

fea mas que fea
6:32 pm
zatrix

what isnt woo? :P
6:32 pm
Perry

Got it! Friend told me about this at work, just completed my first puzzle. Don't tell my boss I started it at work though, lol.
6:32 pm
ashling

;) It's just missing the hoo at the end ;D
6:32 pm
Ezpinaka

unfair
6:33 pm
Ezpinaka

i give up
6:33 pm
Ezpinaka

til tommorrow
6:33 pm
zatrix

what will change tomorrow?
6:33 pm
Anj

Cheers Lo. I'm signing off now - will reply on Last ok? : )
6:33 pm
lola

okay sweetie : ) xx
6:34 pm
zatrix

heh cool character :) xx < lol
6:34 pm
Perry

Is there a way to change the difficulty, or is that only for paid members?
6:37 pm
lola

perry, no. Everyone gets the same puzzle every day : )
6:38 pm
Perry

Okay, saw the difficulty: medium and thought there might be other puzzles each day at each level. Thanks Lola.
6:54 pm
Kemayo

Finally done.
6:56 pm
Kemayo

It's a great feeling when your mind suddenly clicks around one of those hard-to-see logical steps that lets you get out of a deadlock. Of course, it's also kinda irritating, because once you see it you realise how OBVIOUS it was.
6:56 pm
Kemayo

Toodles.
7:03 pm
raggedyandy3478

ne suggestions on how to get this done!? I have the red ones in and, completely stuck
7:04 pm
Playwoman

Me,too, Raggedy
7:06 pm
Playwoman

Is there a way to clear the entire board ans start again?
7:07 pm
raggedyandy3478

i have 37 filled in, including what the puzzle started with, and im a stuck, as sad as that is. Pay.....if you have saved your progress, no, only manually restarted by clearing every spot
7:08 pm
Playwoman

Thans for the info. I have 61 filled, and I'm uttterly stuck.
7:10 pm
raggedyandy3478

netime, i actually just asked that same q earlier today and someone else helped me out on that
7:14 pm
raggedyandy3478

got 1, lol
7:17 pm
Playwoman

OK. I did it. I cleared the entire board, and I am starting again.
7:18 pm
Playwoman

OK. I did it. I cleared the entire board, and I am starting again.

7:18 pm
reedracer

That was fast
7:18 pm
Playwoman


OK. I did it. I cleared the entire board, and I am starting again.

7:18 pm
Playwoman

OK. I did it. I cleared the entire board, and I am starting again.

7:18 pm
Playwoman

Sorry. Multiple sends.
7:19 pm
raggedyandy3478

im completely send
7:19 pm
raggedyandy3478

*stuck
7:19 pm
peternl

arghh, I was getting it out and my 1 yeqar old quit it without saving!
7:21 pm
Playwoman

Ooh! Condolences, peternl
7:26 pm
peternl

luckily I'd save before, but I just made a break thru (thanks to Nikola ;-) and was on a roll!
7:27 pm
Avril

hey jerkface
7:27 pm
Avril

this sudoku is so easy
7:28 pm
peternl

done
7:28 pm
peternl

cya
7:29 pm
Playwoman

Congrats, peternl
7:30 pm
tchansen

Fin!
7:36 pm
Jiraya

Done!
7:36 pm
Avril

GOOD FOR U N O ONE CARES
7:38 pm
MDFreaK76

i care
7:38 pm
Playwoman

Me, too
7:38 pm
Avril

well.. you're dorks
7:38 pm
Avril

lool
7:39 pm
MDFreaK76

you're a playground for STDs and anal sores but thats OK cause its not my problem
7:41 pm
Avril

lool wow any good student of psychology knows that deep down, you yourself are a playground for STDs and anal sores, but telling other people that makes you feel better and also makes you think that others will feel you are less likely to be just that. hahaha
7:42 pm
Playwoman

Drgod. We need you
7:42 pm
MDFreaK76

aww did daddy leave the computer unlocked? its probably pretty close to your bedtime little girl
7:43 pm
Playwoman

:)
7:44 pm
MDFreaK76

proofread it sweetheart. and take your time... you wouldnt want to make urself look like an ass in front of all daddys friends
7:44 pm
Avril

what the fuck are you talking a bout
7:44 pm
Avril

lmao IM FINISHED BITCHESSSS
7:44 pm
Avril

SUCK ON THAT
7:44 pm
Avril

IM DONE IM DONE
7:44 pm
mzhokie

can you guys take this elsewhere please
7:45 pm
MDFreaK76

apologies, ma'am
7:49 pm
mzhokie

thank you
7:50 pm
Playwoman

I'm new here, but I certainly didn't expect that sort of exchange.
7:51 pm
MDFreaK76

again i apologize
7:51 pm
Playwoman

Thanks
7:55 pm
MDFreaK76

can anyone give me a hint on where the 1 goes in the second set of 9 down, left column? i cant get the 1, 2, and 9 to fit in comfortably
7:55 pm
MDFreaK76

its driving me CRAZY
7:56 pm
mzhokie

I'm starting over again because I was going around and around and getting no where.
7:57 pm
MDFreaK76

i thought i had it figured out but that one block is killing me
8:10 pm
jonathanpoh

this one is hard
8:11 pm
moxSapphyre

agreed, a bit harder than other "medium" puzzles Ive done
8:12 pm
mzhokie

medium on the USAToday site is really easy, this is tough if you ask me
8:13 pm
HatesTheInternet

I finished it in 5 minutes! And 20 seconds! I beat yesterday's record! By 5 seconds!
8:14 pm
moxSapphyre

5 mins? holy sh**
8:14 pm
HatesTheInternet

And 20 seconds!
8:14 pm
mrjaggers

takes me five minutes to register the initial numbers
8:15 pm
HatesTheInternet

I am a Sudoku MASTER
8:15 pm
mrjaggers

you have a gift
8:16 pm
moxSapphyre

I got some kind of block. I'm used to being able to tell what numbers are set and which numbers I write in...shouldnt make a diff, but...
8:18 pm
Playwoman

Funny, but when I start over, I take a new approach and it feels like a whole new puzzle...
8:34 pm
mrjaggers

I think this is much easier than yesterday
8:35 pm
Playwoman

not me. slow going
8:48 pm
Onpaki

hello all
8:48 pm
moxSapphyre

hi
8:55 pm
mrjaggers

40 minutes for me
9:02 pm
mzhokie

OMG... I finally finished it. :)
9:02 pm
mzhokie

took me alittle over an hour but I had a phone call and had to feed the pet etc. too
9:03 pm
Playwoman

I have to throw in the towel. Going to the theatre. Good luck, ALL.
9:09 pm
raggedyandy3478

can someone give me a hint, i can not figure this out for the life of me
9:26 pm
zatrix

"Nothing great comes easy. Failure is just part of the path. So is Failure, Failure, Failure, Failure and Failure. Success will come. You just keep getting better" - David Blaine
10:28 pm
stubie

I feel like the puzzles in the newspapers are much easier.
10:29 pm
zatrix

thats cause they probably are
10:29 pm
stubie

Thanks.
10:29 pm
zatrix

anytime :P
10:30 pm
stubie

Sudoku + "Macarthur Park" = Maddening
10:35 pm
stubie

Anyone have some suggestions for good Sudoku music?
10:35 pm
zatrix

too bad i totaly messed this up and there is no clear button, oh well
10:36 pm
zatrix

stubie, definitely www.di.fm
10:36 pm
stubie

What that be?
10:36 pm
zatrix

techno radio station
10:36 pm
stubie

Techno, eh?
10:36 pm
stubie

I haven't really listened to techno since about 8th grade.
10:37 pm
zatrix

lol well then
10:37 pm
stubie

Been awhile.
10:37 pm
skizzybiz

ooh, just came in here at the end of it, better hurry
10:38 pm
stubie

I've never had to use more than 40m to solve a puzzle.... what the hell is with this site?
10:38 pm
skizzybiz

well, the 9x9 ones are never *that* hard
10:38 pm
skizzybiz

it's not about super challenging puzzles -- it's more social
10:39 pm
stubie

I know, but it's just so much harder than the ones I'm used to. I guess not everyone thinks "medium" is the same thing.
10:39 pm
skizzybiz

oh, are you saying these ones are really hard for you?
10:40 pm
stubie

Yesterday (my first day), I didn't finish. Today, I don't know if I will either.
10:40 pm
prophetess

hm, seems to be all about pairs of numbers on this one...
10:40 pm
skizzybiz

well good, you're having fun then :)
10:40 pm
skizzybiz

you know about using the green numbers, right?
10:40 pm
stubie

What does that mean?
10:41 pm
skizzybiz

if you shift-click on a number, it fills in a little green number as a guess, which you can replace with the real thing once you're sure
10:41 pm
skizzybiz

you can say that one square must be the 3, 5, or 6 for example
10:41 pm
stubie

Oh my GOD that is so helpful.
10:41 pm
stubie

This one is DONE.
10:41 pm
skizzybiz

heh
10:41 pm
stubie

:-D
10:41 pm
prophetess

you can say that again!
10:42 pm
stubie

Thank you, I will!
10:42 pm
stubie

THIS ONE IS DONE
10:42 pm
skizzybiz

just don't get too carried away -- it's easier in the long run if you minimize your guesses
10:42 pm
stubie

Thanks for the tip, skizz.
10:53 pm
skizzybiz

whoo! done
10:53 pm
stubie

Hmmm
10:54 pm
skizzybiz

the thing that took me the longest to learn was going and checking the rows and columns whenever the blocks don't give me anything useful
10:55 pm
stubie

Did you have to actually guess at all?
10:55 pm
stubie

I feel like there are some logical rules I am forgetting about.
10:56 pm
skizzybiz

if two numbers can only be in the same two boxes within a block, then no other numbers can be there
10:56 pm
skizzybiz

so like if the 1 and 3 can only be in (1,1) and (1,2), you can remove all other guesses from those squares
10:57 pm
jojomnky

i'm having such a hard time with this one
10:57 pm
skizzybiz

the same rule applies to 3 numbers in 3 squares, and so one, though with the 9x9 puzzle you usually only get pairs
10:57 pm
skizzybiz

this puzzle uses that rule a lot
10:59 pm
skizzybiz

you can also look at the rows and columns with this rule -- so going back to that 1 and 3, you can look at everything else on the top row and if there were any 1s or 3s in the other blocks on the top row, remove those guesses
11:00 pm
skizzybiz

oh yeah, and when i fill in guesses, i fill in every occurrence of a number in a block -- so all the 1s in the upper right, and so on. you have to stick to a consistent rule about guessing or you'll get mixed up
11:01 pm
stubie

Okay, I didn't understand a single thing you just said.
11:01 pm
skizzybiz

heh
11:01 pm
skizzybiz

well ask questions
11:02 pm
skizzybiz

do you not get the terms i'm using?
11:02 pm
stubie

I know about pairs... if I have 1,8 in two boxes in a row, there can't be a 1 or an 8 anywhere else in that row.
11:02 pm
skizzybiz

right
11:02 pm
stubie

But I only have like 2 or three like that in the whole puzzle.
11:02 pm
skizzybiz

do you understand what i'm saying about blocks?
11:02 pm
skizzybiz

the 3x3 sections of the puzzle
11:02 pm
stubie

The 3x3 square?
11:02 pm
stubie

Right.
11:04 pm
skizzybiz

let's say the top left square is (1,1), and the one to the right is (1,2) and so on to (1,9) in the top right, and (9,9) in the bottom right
11:04 pm
stubie

I understand.
11:04 pm
skizzybiz

so you know how to use pairs within blocks?
11:05 pm
stubie

Well, if I have two occurances of 1,3 in a block, they can't be anywhere else in that block.
11:05 pm
stubie

But that's not happening with me.
11:05 pm
skizzybiz

ok
11:05 pm
stubie

I have like 1,6 and 1,3 and 1,3,6 in a block.
11:05 pm
skizzybiz

ok, that's useful
11:05 pm
stubie

How?
11:06 pm
skizzybiz

well, actually probably not in your case. are those the only 3 open squares?
11:06 pm
stubie

Yes.
11:06 pm
skizzybiz

i wish i could see the puzzle
11:08 pm
skizzybiz

i dunno, it sounds like you grasp all the rules, you just need to scan around some more and find some more places to eliminate guesses
11:09 pm
skizzybiz

if you need to, fill in *all* the guesses for every open square, and then start looking around at the rows and columns for more pairs
11:09 pm
stubie

That's what I've been doing! Aagh, this is so frustrating...
11:09 pm
skizzybiz

the other thing you can do is look for naked pairs
11:09 pm
stubie

??
11:10 pm
skizzybiz

if you've filled in all the guesses, and there are two squares with *just* a 1 and a 3 in them within a row, for example, you can remove all your 1 and 3 guesses from the other squares within that row
11:10 pm
sandyloo

skizz there is a site called http://www.toba.com.au/sudoku/
11:10 pm
sandyloo

skizz there is a site called http://www.toba.com.au/sudoku/
11:10 pm
sandyloo

which is free and good to practice as it has hard to easy puzzles
11:10 pm
skizzybiz

thanks
11:11 pm
stubie

What are naked pairs?
11:11 pm
skizzybiz

but i have a program on my computer with hard puzzles, and a book with more complicated puzzle shapes like 16x16 and interlocking grids
11:11 pm
skizzybiz

i just like the social aspect of this site
11:11 pm
sandyloo

something rude i think
11:11 pm
skizzybiz

hehe
11:12 pm
skizzybiz

i didn't come up with the name :)
11:12 pm
sandyloo

i noticed that sprite has an icon up which means you can go pro is that true and what are the benefits? does anyone know
11:12 pm
jdbarney

Got it - super sweet!!
11:13 pm
sandyloo

lol skizz
11:14 pm
sandyloo

there are tons of sites on the net maybe they know about naked pairs try googling it LOL
11:15 pm
skizzybiz

yeah, probably best to look it up. it's taking me too long to try to explain it :)
11:16 pm
jdbarney

So why does the puzzle have to disappear right as you solve it? I wanted to bask in the glory of being done for just a moment
11:16 pm
skizzybiz

jd, they're sadists
11:17 pm
skizzybiz

sandy, if you click on "my account" it tells you what the benefits are
11:18 pm
skizzybiz

sounds like there's not much to it other than the warm fuzzies you get from supporting the site
11:19 pm
lula

waiting for the next puzzle oh my
11:21 pm
evanonut

lula - now that's a name
11:25 pm
lula

<3
11:25 pm
lula

i was playing on websudoku
11:41 pm
lula

lalala
11:41 pm
lula

chatterbox isnt refreshing
11:53 pm
Atnan

This ticks over every 24 hours right?