go

Done

well, I'm up late... might as well do the puzzle now,.... start:

go

done

jk

hehehe... I thought I was being waaaay slow for a minute;)

done. no greens

and with that, I'm going to crash now... good night cyclin girl, and everyone else

good job

thanks!

*poof*

done...finally!

really. jeez.

again. kidding.

Difficulty score 19.

i'm done!

Well, what'll we talk about today?

Ok. Done

go

whew... good night :)

Nothin' to it, no greens.....

go

done, no greens and many distractions

done no greens :)

done, no greens, although i did get stumped for awhile in the middle there...

then he snuck down the chimney, a rather tight pinch
but if santa could do it, then so could the grinch
he got stuck only once, for a minute or two
then he stuck his head out of the fireplace flue

???

Piece of pie ..

go

done.. no greens... fun puzzle

go

done. no green.

go

done - no green

no green

salad. no greens.

good!

Does anyone no how to create a matrix using the computer and will it work on a MAC?

Marc, Iron Sudoku works best in mozilla Firefox... should work fine on a mac since it isn't the Microsoft Hegemony at work? A Matrix? Shift + Number gives you a small green so you can put all possibilities in a square?

Mayan could you explain again

If you press enter on a space (or left-click on the mouse), a keyboard appears and you can press shift+ a number to enter multiple little green numbers (a grid) within each space. Alt+a number enters a red number. That way you can enter greens as possibles and/or reds as not possible or whatever (hence the conqueror claims "no greens" in the chat) Make any sense?

And if the question was about Mozilla Firefox, it is a great FREE internet navigator that you can download, much like Internet Explorer but better, and I like it better than any other internet navigation program.

This site works great in Safari as well. Just saying.

I am on Fox

Fox? Oh... FireFox... confused me there a sec :)

Got it thanks

When you say you want to make a matrix, what do you mean?

Finally, I am not sure what you can or cannot do if you don't pay for preferred status on Iron Sudoku, but you pay a small amount for a lifelong memebership that allows you to relish and revel in 2 years worth of archives, save your work and do all kinds of sudoku's... best site I know! I wonder if anyone can tell you if these cool red and green things are available without paying? I'm not ashamed to say I am totally addicted to this site and find the price well worth it. I also don't think it is worth being embarrassed about using greens!

You can do greens and reds for free. It's saving and archives you don't get.

I use them all the time. I guess I could kill a few trees printing them up and writing my "matrix" in in pencil, but the greens are much more environmentally friendly!

Much more... wait for it... wait for it... "green"?

Thank you, I'll be here all week.Tip your waitress!

Ha Ha... LOL

lol ;)

Marc... we got lost in levity... any other questions that you would like a "brief" answer to?

There is a way to put all the possible #'s in the cells at once, does anyone know how?

yeah you can find it at brittlefish.com someplace

here we go: http://www.brittlefish.com/2007/02/07/make-ir
onsudoku-javascript-magic/

Simple javascript. And, yes, you can find it at brittlefish.com.

thanks I will try that

you can paste a script into the url line of your browser

Is THAT what everyone means about "no greens"??? Golly, that isn't as much fun as working it out manually!

Maybe I'm too old-fashioned...

I find it easier to do it myself and quicker

i don't think anybody means they've used the script when they say no greens, it just means they didn't use the green numbers at all

There are four ways to do the puzzles: "no greens" which means with no use of greens at all. With greens, which means manual entry. auto greens (also called auto g+r) which uses the javascript, and "I put it in a solving program and had it help me"

i try to go without greens if i can but sometimes i get impatient or stuck or just don't have the time to do it that way

there are solving programs? well dang, that's just cheating! ;)

I only use auto when I am in a rush and want to get the puzzle done. I don't have a problem with it when I am not timing myself. I never use them on day-of puzzles, only on archives. And only when necessary.

start

yeah, i don't like to auto fill, spending the time working it out or adding greens myself makes me familiar with the puzzle

Easy puzzles are usually solvable the "no green" way... But maybe some of these archived expert ones are worth trying the other way?

otherwise i'm looking at a sea of green and i have no clue about the relationships between any of the numbers ... it's too much to take in all at once, for me

yeah mayan, i'm actually doing yesterday's expert puzzle and i'm tired and want to get to bed, so i'm using greens (now that i'm stuck on it)

Good point

sometimes I auto g+r just to get a hint and then I use a clear script to wipe them out again

yeah it is nice that brittle made the clear script

what's the clear script?

clears out all the reds and greens for you. it should be on that page i posted the link to, a bit ago

ahhh ok

went to the site but cannot find the javascript any hints?

it wasn't on this page? http://www.brittlefish.com/2007/02/07/make-ir

onsudoku-javascript-magic/

g'night all

'Night Andy

g'night for andy and everyone else too - i'm off to brf

*bed

(sneezed)

I can paste the green fill if you want

bywrt, logged onto that page bit could not find it, please help

I use i on experts and hards

night btwrt and andy

javascript: for (i=1; i<=9; i++) { for (j=1; j<=9; j++) { if (grid[i][j].value == "") { ClearTinySquares(i,j); } } } for (i=1; i<=9; i++) { for (j=1; j<=9; j++) { if (grid[i][j].value != "") { var tmp_value = grid[i][j].value; for (k=1; k<=9; k++) { for (l=1; l<=9; l++) { if (grid[k][l].value == "") { if ((Math.ceil(i/3) == Math.ceil(k/3) && Math.ceil(j/3) == Math.ceil(l/3)) || i == k || j == l) { grid[k][l]["mini"][tmp_value] = -1; } } } } } } } for (i=1; i<=9; i++) { for (j=1; j<=9; j++) { if (grid[i][j].value == "") { for (k=1; k<=9; k++) { if (grid[i][j]["mini"][k] != -1) grid[i][j]["mini"][k] = 1; else grid[i][j]["mini"][k] = 0; } } } } PopulatePuzzle(grid); void(0);

you put that in the url line of your browser

copy starting from the javascript line to the end

very messy

done

I think it's messy too... clutters the screen with to much green and to confusing for me