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Difficulty: Hard Saturday, December 8, 2007

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CHAT LOG for Saturday, December 8, 2007

3:35 am
MrOoijer

not very hard, just many pairs
3:45 am
FranMag

start
3:53 am
Andy

done, pretty easy
3:58 am
UnikeTheHunter

Go.
4:40 am
FranMag

done
4:48 am
spreadeagle

Easy
5:02 am
UnikeTheHunter

Done. Only manual greens to mark pairs, of which there were a lot.
6:10 am
angieplumptit

Today's the day...
6:31 am
drwho

Difficulty score 34. Several pairs, but not too hard to find.
6:42 am
smooth_pappa

start
6:52 am
spreadeagle

Hey smooth, did you stop to get a cup of coffee? You're usually done by now......
6:53 am
smooth_pappa

hehehe... I do have my coffee, but I'm getting stck in the middle on this one
6:53 am
smooth_pappa

*stuck*
6:53 am
spreadeagle

I had to use a few greens to keep track
6:54 am
smooth_pappa

yeah, me too... and it did help alot... I'm just plodding along this morning
6:56 am
franebrown

I can't believe I used NO greens on a 34 rated!!!
6:56 am
spreadeagle

Have fun. I've got to keep surfing to finish my Christmas shopping. Sure beats fighting the crowds at the stores.
6:56 am
smooth_pappa

good job frane! and have a good day, eagle
6:56 am
spreadeagle

WTG frane!
6:58 am
franebrown

thx, thx!!
6:58 am
smooth_pappa

and done.... but I DID use greens
7:02 am
smooth_pappa

have a good day everyone... I need to pop into work for a few hours
7:23 am
Voon

drwho are you there?
7:33 am
yul

hello everybody
7:33 am
Andy

morning all
7:55 am
yul

finished no greens
7:55 am
yul

have a nice day all
7:56 am
Andy

u2
7:56 am
Voon

how do you do it yut?
7:56 am
Voon

can you share?
some tips ?
8:03 am
Andy

yul's gone, I guess. But here's a few: I always look first for each number individually. I notice where, say, a 1 is only on the right side in this block so I know it won't be in that column in the other two, and such. I usually get a few to many that way first.
8:03 am
Andy

Then I look at blocks, rows and columns to see if there are any places where a given number can ONLY be so I can fill that in
8:03 am
Voon

then
8:04 am
Voon

try that too
8:04 am
Andy

Then I look for pairs which will eliminate possibilities elsewhere... 12 and 12 in a row means 1 and 2 cannot be anywhere else in that row, etc.
8:04 am
Andy

After that, you get into the advanced techniques. Triplets, y wings, x wings, unique rectangles, etc.
8:04 am
Voon

em..............
8:05 am
Andy

those techniques are well documented and google will bring them up handily. Someone here has a site or has linked to a site but I don't have it handy at the moment
8:06 am
Voon

google
8:06 am
Voon

can you show me the website
8:06 am
Voon

thank you Andy.
8:07 am
Andy

yeah, checked my bookmarks... oh wait... del.icio.ius... hang on...
8:07 am
Andy

Yep, I did have it. http://www.scanraid.com/AdvanStrategies.htm
8:08 am
Voon

Alright
8:16 am
Voon

Thanks Andy
8:16 am
Andy

np
8:18 am
angieplumptit

I rely entirely on the Grueman/Fortnum technique minus the obvious
8:20 am
Andy

Complete discredited.
8:20 am
Andy

Grueman had 7 fingers and could not count to 9 in the first place and Fortnum was a drunk.
8:21 am
angieplumptit

I think not. Fortnum's prediliction for under-age girls has shaped public opinion
8:22 am
Andy

(Wow... at the last minute I replaced "pedophile" with 'drunk")
8:22 am
angieplumptit

No, no no. It was research
8:23 am
Andy

I'm doing the Sept 13 2006 Hard puzzle and using Grueman/Fortnum I get 12 9's in one block. I think you will see that that is impossible. And I don't see how having to trap underage girls in a bear trap helps at all.
8:25 am
angieplumptit

It was a bear HUG. Sometimes Grueman can be difficult for the novice
8:25 am
Andy

Oh man... I better get some bandages...
8:26 am
angieplumptit

Ok. Let me concentrate
8:26 am
Andy

Oh, that's no fun!
8:28 am
angieplumptit

I'm going to pay no attention to you whatsoever. I'm not even going to ignore you
8:30 am
Andy

Damn you. I have no good comeback to that. None at all. You've won this round but I'll be back. I'll be back with nuclear weapons!
8:41 am
Andy

Have a good day all!
9:03 am
spreadeagle

Voon, are you still around? If so, try brainbashers.com for solution techniques. Click on "Sudoku", then click on "Sudoku Help" in the "Notes" paragraph.
9:38 am
angieplumptit

That was tough.
9:43 am
spellacked

well, with greens it went very quickly, not tough at all
10:17 am
brittlefish.com

go
10:33 am
katmama

not bad with greens, although slow going for me, but i got it!
10:43 am
brittlefish.com

done. g+r auto greens.
11:32 am
abmoraz

start
11:51 am
abmoraz

done
1:53 pm
ypsigirl

done done done
2:07 pm
helenkeller

2:20 pm
helenkeller

greens
3:35 pm
sandbox74

go
3:48 pm
sandbox74

done no greens... nbot so bad at all
4:07 pm
Inge

thank you ypsi and HK, I am done also
4:34 pm
TrickyRic

hi all - everyone making todays sound easy yet i started a few minutes ago now and only have 2 !!
4:35 pm
hurshy

everybody's brain works differently. some puzzles are easier for some, others for others. we all get there in the end.
4:37 pm
TrickyRic

woo, 3
4:37 pm
TrickyRic

oh ok i'm on a roll now
4:39 pm
TrickyRic

so how are you then hurshy - i havn't been around for a while, don't think i've talked to you since i babbled about a year ago
4:40 pm
hurshy

oh, um, i'm ok. lot happens in a year.
4:40 pm
TrickyRic

i won't argue there
4:41 pm
hurshy

how are you?
4:42 pm
TrickyRic

oh not bad thanks
4:42 pm
TrickyRic

i'm still getting used to the weather out here
4:43 pm
hurshy

ohhhh you're the one with nTkh!
4:44 pm
TrickyRic

that's me
4:44 pm
hurshy

how is she? and the kids?
4:45 pm
TrickyRic

they're all fine, the kids are driving us crazy and kates cooking her special 'clilly'
4:46 pm
TrickyRic

so pretty much normal, lol
4:46 pm
hurshy

good. :)
5:09 pm
TrickyRic

ok visitors are here and i'm being moved, bye hurshy
5:11 pm
hurshy

bye
5:30 pm
Montreal13

done...with difficulties...but no greens - bye all !
8:26 pm
hurshy

i think my hearing is deteriorating