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Difficulty: Hard Tuesday, October 2, 2007

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CHAT LOG for Tuesday, October 2, 2007

12:00 am
jawilke

go ... no greens
12:01 am
jawilke

done
12:30 am
WHB

Done
4:14 am
kixx

go
4:29 am
kixx

done, no greens
4:57 am
irv

hi
5:05 am
irv

much too easy for a hard
5:33 am
drwho

Difficulty score 23. One key hidden pair breaks it open.
6:25 am
peternl

hi all
6:32 am
peternl

not very hard
6:44 am
jrrogers27

that was easier than an easy one.
6:48 am
brittlefish.com

go
6:54 am
smooth_pappa

start
7:03 am
smooth_pappa

done
7:03 am
smooth_pappa

no greens. That was pretty easy
7:11 am
brittlefish.com

done. no greens.
7:16 am
angieplumptit

Mornin', Pooch
7:17 am
eyeman

Thanks for the 3 point gift!
7:17 am
eyeman

Get it yet, Inge?
7:22 am
Inge

not yet
7:31 am
angieplumptit

Stef told me about the Backsplitter keKey Tap Method. Works well on this puzzle if combined with the Paplowski Shift
7:33 am
angieplumptit

Difficulty rating on the Feldhoff Scale is...lets's see...ah...27
7:37 am
angieplumptit

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7:38 am
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7:39 am
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7:40 am
angieplumptit

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8:29 am
btwrt

i'm glad that Jesus cares, this jesusland seems insincere ...
9:14 am
TrickyRic

seriously puzzle 18 has me stumped
9:15 am
TrickyRic

i've been doing it for 3 days now, lol. i have all the greens mapped out as logically as i can yet i still only have the 2 obvious squares filled in
9:16 am
btwrt

i wish i could help ... i've done that one, but once it's all filled in i have no clue as to how to give hints
9:17 am
TrickyRic

any idea what logical method you used?
9:17 am
TrickyRic

i see no hidden pairs or anything, this things got me
9:18 am
btwrt

well, it was so long ago ... what i usually do that works really fast is, i only put in greens where there are two possibilities in a section
9:18 am
btwrt

that way, i catch the pairs really easily because there aren't a lot of other numbers mucking it up
9:19 am
btwrt

then, if i've put in all the pair possibles in each 9 square section, and i'm stuck, i do all the threes and see what that gets me
9:19 am
btwrt

does that make sense? i'm bad at explaining things
9:20 am
TrickyRic

i go through each number - fill out all the 1's taking into account the surrounding rows etc, then 2's, and so on. so i generally spot the pairs as i'm going - it's easy to see which lines can't have x because x only exists on line blah in one of the segments, etc. but i just don't see anything useful here
9:21 am
TrickyRic

i've gone through each row and column having filled in all the greens and theres no hidden pairs or tripples or quads or anything
9:21 am
btwrt

hmmm. what numbers do you have filled in? i'll try to recreate it
9:21 am
TrickyRic

i've the 4 on the bottom middle and the 3 on the middle left - the 2 most obvious lol. other than that they're all green
9:22 am
yul

hello everybody
9:22 am
TrickyRic

i figured the 7 in the bottom left once but that seemed to be a mistake. no idea how i figured it if it wasn't
9:23 am
TrickyRic

would it break the rules to take a screenshot and paste a link here?
9:24 am
TrickyRic

i mean it's not like it's todays puzzle lol#
9:25 am
btwrt

you can paste a link, that's fine :)
9:25 am
btwrt

that helps me
9:25 am
btwrt

hi yul! how are you?
9:30 am
yul

hey btwrt I'm good but had to restart all ready. I am in a hurry to do lots of things today. I better go before it's too late :)
9:30 am
yul

I will speak to you soon. have a nice day
9:32 am
TrickyRic

ok i have a screenshot, lol
9:33 am
TrickyRic

http://qwebtemplates.com/sudoku18.gif
9:33 am
TrickyRic

not looking for direct answers but any advice would be appreciated. cheers
9:35 am
ypsigirl

easy no greens done!
9:42 am
tonyfro

One hidden pair finished it off for me. Didn't seem like a hard.
9:46 am
FMitch

TrickyRic am looking at yr screenshot and can't give you a proper sudoku push as I work randomly but could "hint you" a square if that would help
9:47 am
TrickyRic

ok yes please :D
9:48 am
FMitch

Central square, central number.
9:48 am
btwrt

oh, good, fmitch, i'm glad you're helping. i am so bad at hinting!
9:48 am
TrickyRic

ok cheers - i'll try and figure out how you got that before i fill it in lol
9:49 am
FMitch

Good luck have to head off for a while.
9:49 am
TrickyRic

ty, bye
9:51 am
FMitch

p.s I'm a woman so best not to try and work out how I got that, LOL just accept it and find all the others :)
9:51 am
TrickyRic

LOL
10:12 am
jawilke

not a hard
10:26 am
UnikeTheHunter

Well, since it is a hard, I think I'll just go ahead and green up.
10:27 am
UnikeTheHunter

Cute. Plenty of loners to start.
10:28 am
Sulihin

it starts easy, you might be able to do without greens
10:35 am
UnikeTheHunter

Done. Why that was certainly the easiest Hard ever. Nothing but loners, two or three ordinary crosshatch, and one pair. It could easily be done without greens.
11:12 am
Limer

this is hard???
11:25 am
RodeoRogue

go
11:36 am
RodeoRogue

done, with greens
1:20 pm
Jeremiah

lemon squeezy
2:11 pm
yul

hi again
2:23 pm
yul

sooo easy even without greens
3:11 pm
helenkeller

3:21 pm
helenkeller

3:24 pm
m0nm0n

4:21 pm
Stef

if this was an easy it would be easy.
4:22 pm
Montreal13

and if it was a medium... then it would be ... what ?
4:26 pm
abmoraz

start
4:31 pm
Stef

emm...really easy?
4:32 pm
Montreal13

really medium ????
4:39 pm
Montreal13

done ! - had to take 1 guess... and it worked !!! bye all !
4:54 pm
Zugzug7

I'm sorry but did anyone find that extremely easy?
5:18 pm
sandbox74

had to green up near the end... drat... but i would classify as medium
5:29 pm
Evil_Homer

This was too easy to be a hard. It could be solved by simple crosshatching.
6:22 pm
hurshy

when will people learn to believe that hards are the easiest. i have said it, lo, this many a day
7:07 pm
Phil

start
8:41 pm
trueheart11

start
9:14 pm
trueheart11

done
11:06 pm
Hyde

Shouldn't hards be.. hard?
11:06 pm
Hyde

I had a harder time with the easy on monday