Done

done

tough, in an interesting way...

Interesting like Tim Allen or interesting like Paul Giamatti?

done... sorry augurus, I've missed the question. Interesting because it has an interesting pattern

Way to be give the straight forward answer I suppose.

start

just got to the "expert" part of this puzzle - will come back later to look for fancy stuff.

done

really good expert puzzle today. Due for an easy one tomorrow.

eyeman, does it take x-y chains to solve it?

eyeman, does it take x-y chains to solve it?

sorry for the double post, site froze on me

froze for me too... Closed, came back again. What's an x-y chain?

when I came back, it's incomplete after solving. Rats.

well... I don't really know, lol, that seems to be my problem with real experts. I have all pairs and triples and quadruples etc now and I can't see where it can be unlocked.
Sorry you lost the solution! I think the server had a hiccup, it is behaving badly all day. Also on babble.

Thanks, sprite. Let's hope it behaves. I start by looking at patterns of three numbers horizontally and vertically. Good luck!

yeah, I have those, I think... thanks, will take another look.

perhaps that technique isn't even called that. Might be x-y wings or something like that.

sounds as good as anything else I've seen out here! lol

lol! Yeah, well, I am totally self-taught on sudoku, don't know about techniques. I just want to puzzle until it is solved. I am just not getting over the dead point in this one though. As has been the matter with other experts too, sometimes.

are the rules to this the same as normal sudoku?

hi all

hello everybody

yes, this is normal sudoku

hi peternl and yul

start, i think not yet at expert level

Found the solution finally, sprite. Like doing two experts in one day. Because of the freeze, i should ask for 10 points. lol

yay eyeman, great! Wish I could look over your shoulder while you were doing it... I just can't seem to get this without guessing, which is NOT solving and I hate it.

in babble people give hints, but not here it seems

it is pretty hard to hint here without spoiling it for the others. This site would be more fun with a whisper possibility!

All I dare say is that the number of symphonies Beethoven wrote can be found in a corner square.

well, now THAT is a beautiful clue! Thanks :D

Hope I'm not blackballed for saying that. Have fun everyone. Time to head to work. Send me a Dutch tulip, sprite.

*hands eyeman a beautiful tulip*
Thanks again and have a good day.

U2 :)

14 found starting green

just restarted again... will count when I start green.

i found 15, no green, what is green any how

if you hold shift, you can enter a possible number in green. With control you can enter a red impossible number.

that did'nt work for me

oh.... I think I found another route! I have the Beethoven number in an early stage, I think.

19 found and no greens yet

cool

joflow, not sure, perhaps it is a pro thing? The greens/reds I mean.

no

managed to find 22 with no greens, but then got stuck

superb

good!

21 found and slipping in a few greens now

yet in 18

at least we are still making progress ;)

my 18 gave me a full column nº7

yes, I have that one full too. And LOTS of pairs.

19, i was not looking to one easy

also 19 and stuck

22 and stuck

yes it's a tough one sprite (and how are you today?)

hey dorens! Did you solve it?
My day is terrible, to be honest, I am so stressed I can hardly type. Husband is on the phone with the morgage / insurance / specialists / legal counsel.

no, i'm stuck too. sorry you're having such trouble... the only thing i can say is that no matter what jams i've been in, they alwasy do get resolved (maybe not to my liking, but we do survive)

yes, that is a good thought to keep in mind, thanks. We have this saying in Dutch: the food is never eaten as hot as it is served.

same here 22 and stuck

hey ypsigirl. Seems the 22 is the dead point today.

finished!

Hey chin up, things will work themselves out.

woooot bibliomatix! How do we get beyond that 22?

thnx ypsigirl :)

i had to use the greens

but the greens only give me pairs, triplets, etc. I cannot see a place where there is only one possibilty :(

i used the greens, now i'm shamelessly guessing

maybe i had a different 22 to you?

and after three guesses, I'm done!

it is possible, I think, although it would be a coincidence we all get stuck at exact the same number.

good guessing... I may have to resort

LOLLLL dorens... yes, that is one way, grin.

well done dorens!

i'm off to babble now, bye

i'm not as clever as y ou..... without the occasional guess, i'd be in big trouble. so, wish i could give hints.. but apparantly this is not like babble

ggggessssing

yee! bethoven came to me gote number 20

babble is fun today, enjoy!

yes, i was there... have 35 or so left but saving it for later... on my way out now for errands. Chin up, sprite!

no, and I think I am gonna guess too, it is taking too much time now. Bye!

and 21 yes

ok, no stoped in 21

yup, one single guess solved it... unsatisfactory, but done.

bye all, good luck

22 no guess yet

i can't see any triples :(

usually I'm good at it. may be I've made a mistake. Starting over

guessed bad, no luck backtracking, starting over

i guess we have to guess with this one, yet in 22 and all greens found and no break

have to go, refuse to guess

joflow,were did you find the last 4 numbers?

i fill terrible that i can't find them

I've got them all along. I am just stopped seeing anything. Well, no need to panic yet :)

it was something like that that in this 2 holes only this to numbers so in the others...

hi everybody its my first sudoku

You picked a good hard one to start. Good luck!

thnx iam trying

what is the best sudoku ebook

OK, I'm at the 22 filled point. Now it gets interesting.....

cojaay, try brainbashers.com

They do a good job of explaining

cool u r so nice thanks

cool u r so nice thanks

you're welcome

God Damn, I am stucked

Failed after 22 filled

I can't even get that far

fin

yul, did you guess?

half guess

lots of excluding forcing chains

ok

How do you go about finding those. looking at each cell one at a time or what?

hax, "Forced chain" is another name for guess or trial-and-error

oh, you people and your fancy words for not having a clue ;)

At least I come out and say it :D

bingo......

not all chains are the same :( i wish they were

finally!!!!

with greens and some 2 guesses

**and 2 guesses

spreadeagle, do you use guessing some times?

well, I definitely do on some, but I call it trial and error

If I have to 'guess' I don't actually place the number. i just try to play the board out in my head as far as I can to see if it's wrong

that it's a proper forcing chain

well, I don't usually have the time or the concentration (w/ 2 little ones around) for that.

:)

I can only do up to 10 steps without marking

all done

yul, yes I guess when I have to. But I don't give up easily.....

finished here, too. goodbye!

Hey, I think I just found an xyz-wing...

nice

That eliminated two 6's (i think) but it doesn't seem to have helped beyond that

Oh yes it did, too...

27 filled now..

Another xyz-wing? Can an xyz-wing be in just one block??

Brainbashers doesn't say, but I don't think so.

r u typing to yourself

Nah, just looking for help

just use ur brain cells that's why you have them

lol

Done, the wings didn't pan out...

what i see is after 22 #'s is a lot of small groupings.

yep, lots of pairs. I thought I found an xyz-wing centered in the middle block, but it caused problems. I had to make a guess. Rats...

done

i deal wit trig i don't need other stupid terms

with

Ah, the memories.......

I like doing trig

yes after 19 out of high school i went back to college

for computer networking

python, everyone I know in that field loves their job. Good luck with that

thanks, we can destory the world

lmao

Hmm, so that's why you chose that field?

Done........5 points baby!

go

got to quit. freaking work. oh well

Hold on to your hats, folks. I'm updating a bunch of software on the server that I've ignored for a while. Start saving your checkpoints early and often!Restarting the server usually takes a while, so when the site goes down, give it 10-15 mins to get back on its feet.

go

Go. Not a good day for an Expert.

done

Rats, some mistake. I THOGHT it was going too easy for and Expert.

fran, you are amazing

this is mysecond time starting over

I had to start over twice also..3rd time was a charm and went smooth

you're right, third time's a charm

All right, expert... psyched. lets go.

24 from just cross hatching

done .. one naked triple and two xy-chains

not an expert tho

Sigh, way too easy for an Expert. There weren't even any chains of possibilities I had to traverse.

go

going pretty good there for a while, then... not so much

gotta take a break

oh boy... go

I think it's bark is worse than it's bite, Andy...... at first glance and halfway through greenville

so far, so good

I see a WAG in my future

WAG?

Wild A$$ guess

ahhh

lol

ooooooo wait I see a loner

grinding halt...

sleepy... finish tomorrow...

nitey nite