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Difficulty: Medium Monday, July 23, 2007

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CHAT LOG for Monday, July 23, 2007

12:18 am
WHB

Done, no guessing
4:22 am
Shameel

hi punam,
4:23 am
Shameel

hi ketan
4:23 am
Shameel

ready ..go
4:23 am
punam

hi
4:56 am
Xanika

WHat does becoming a pro get you in this game?
5:15 am
franebrown

a very difficult medium today!
5:16 am
franebrown

for me
5:17 am
Shameel

for me also
5:36 am
franebrown

i finished by using greens and also guessing which i think is cheating
6:04 am
punam

finished
6:25 am
sprite

Xanica: checkpoints, savegames and most importantly: access to ALL the puzzles in the archives!
6:30 am
smooth_pappa

go
6:31 am
sprite

ah smooth_pappa, let me stay a little longer please! ;)
6:31 am
smooth_pappa

lol good morning :)
6:31 am
sprite

good morning to you too, have fun :)
6:32 am
smooth_pappa

seems like a slow starter
6:34 am
sprite

same for me
6:34 am
drwho

Difficulty score 20. Challenging.
6:36 am
drwho

Technically, cross-hatching and virtual cross-hatching are the only techniques needed. I found a helpful hidden pair.
6:36 am
sprite

in that case I will finish it in time
6:40 am
smooth_pappa

durnit... haad to start over
6:40 am
sprite

argh... poor you
6:44 am
smooth_pappa

ooh... think I just got some breakthrough
6:48 am
smooth_pappa

and done!
6:48 am
smooth_pappa

with a little green help in the middle
6:48 am
sprite

wtg pappa!
6:48 am
smooth_pappa

I think that made my brain bleed ;)
6:48 am
ketan

finished
6:49 am
sprite

and yay ketan
6:49 am
Shameel

Finished
6:50 am
sprite

and Shameel too
6:54 am
Shameel

it should be expert level!!!!
8:05 am
Krys10

hey sprite, you still online?
do my eyes deceive me?
8:16 am
sprite

hey Krys10! Half and half... am doing too many things at a time atm.
8:16 am
Krys10

how have you been?
8:16 am
sprite

not very well, actually. Severe burnout and some other problems. And you?
8:17 am
Krys10

oh, I'm sorry to hear that. work burnout?
8:17 am
Krys10

things are going well here
8:17 am
Krys10

having a baby in the fall
8:17 am
sprite

that's how it started, but then we discovered that it has roots in ptss.
8:18 am
sprite

wow Krys! Congratulations! Hope all will go well and smoothly for you :)
8:18 am
Krys10

wow, big stuff, ptss. sorry to hear it. hope you have good support?
8:18 am
Krys10

thanks. so far so good, on my end
8:20 am
sprite

great :)
Yeah, very good physiotherapist who does psychosomatic physio, and an average psychotherapist because my employer thinks he is great. But the support from friends and my husband is wonderful.
8:20 am
Krys10

good, i'm really glad you've got a team in place.
8:21 am
Krys10

i've heard really interesting things about psychosomatic physiotherapy - not so common in this country, from what I've heard.
8:21 am
sprite

it is necessary, no way I can handle this alone. My own doctor does a great job too.
8:23 am
Krys10

glad you are hanging in there
8:23 am
sprite

you know me, lol... they don't call me a pitbull for nothing, I never give up. Not with babble, not with sudoku and definitely not with life.
8:25 am
Krys10

not the least bit surprised to hear you say that :)
8:25 am
sprite

I bet.... it takes one to know one ;)
8:26 am
Krys10

heh
8:26 am
sprite

and to proof this point: sudoku done :)
8:27 am
Krys10

good on you! I've been distracted on this one but I will tackle it later today
8:27 am
Krys10

breakfast calls
8:27 am
sprite

I must be off now, I hope you have a terrific pregnancy and a smooth birth and a wonderful child :)
8:28 am
UnikeTheHunter

Go.
8:28 am
Krys10

thanks sprite - glad we got to catch up a bit - my thoughts are with you!
8:28 am
sprite

thank you, and vice versa :D
9:09 am
UnikeTheHunter

Stuck.
9:09 am
spreadeagle

Me too. I'm missing something........
9:10 am
UDbmas

going green
9:10 am
spreadeagle

Green didn't help me much.
9:11 am
UDbmas

how about green & more coffee?
9:11 am
UnikeTheHunter

Oh, UDdmas, You're a choral composer. Me too. Have any music posted someplace?
9:12 am
UDbmas

If you google "O Virtus Sapientiae" you should get a hit from UMEA in sweden
9:13 am
UDbmas

How about you, Hunter? Are you posted?
9:16 am
UnikeTheHunter

I have a website, Offertories.com. It is almost all keyboard music. Just one vocal solo. If you need church keyboard music, you should get my Cumberland Hymns, real cheap. But I've been discouraged and haven't put the free music into better form. It is all GIF files that don't print very well any more that most people have higher screen resolution.
9:18 am
UDbmas

I put some into public on CPDL, but the site is down right now. But it can be accessed via cached pages sometimes. A local group here may do a piece or two in the fall. I do almost all a cappella works.
9:18 am
eyeman

Some medium,,, Hah! This is an expert, make no mistake.
9:18 am
UnikeTheHunter

I'm also working on choral music. I had a lot on my computer, almost finished. But in retaliation for erasing his pornography, my son reformated my hard drive and I lost it all. I still have paper versions, all marked up. But I haven't fixed it up.
9:18 am
spreadeagle

I'm with you, eyeman
9:19 am
eyeman

Glad I'm not alone, spreadeagle.
9:19 am
UDbmas

ouch. I have most of my stuff on two different computers just in case (I lost my laptop's files when I had to have the dc-jack replaced).
9:20 am
UDbmas

I haven't found any isolated pairs yet...this one is tough
9:20 am
eyeman

Anyway, on with the day, fiinally got it with a headache
9:21 am
UDbmas

oh, take two easy sudokus & call in the morning?
9:21 am
eyeman

Good advice, Udbmas. Will do.
9:29 am
spreadeagle

AHA! How did I miss that?
9:33 am
UnikeTheHunter

UDbmas, I looked and the music and listened to the MP3. It's great. Unfortunately I couldn't do both, so the music quit.
9:33 am
UDbmas

I hear ya... I can't do music and sudoku either...too much conflicting math
9:33 am
UDbmas

Thanks for the listening though!
9:35 am
spreadeagle

Done.
9:35 am
UnikeTheHunter

I've got one MP3 posted on my website. Unfortunately I compressed it too much. It sounded okay on my computer. But on other computers it has funny timbre added.
9:36 am
UnikeTheHunter

Good work spreadeagle. I'm about ready to give it a rest.
9:36 am
spreadeagle

Tip: Look at the 8's.
9:36 am
UDbmas

I have had some problems there also. Some of the stuff I compressed had feedback noise on other computers.
9:37 am
UDbmas

yes, there are lot's of 8's...
9:37 am
UDbmas

mine are all green ones
9:37 am
spreadeagle

There is a well-hidden way to eliminate some of them, opening up the 7's.
9:38 am
UDbmas

yes, got one! thanks
9:39 am
UnikeTheHunter

I'm still no green. I see only one eight and a few virtuals.
9:40 am
UDbmas

mine is opening...bottom right block was the key here
9:41 am
spreadeagle

Hunter, if you can do this one without green you are MUCH better at this than me......
9:42 am
UnikeTheHunter

I usually do mediums no green. But this one is giving me trouble.
9:43 am
spreadeagle

I get about 50% w/o green, not this one.
9:43 am
UDbmas

did Dr Who rate it yet?
9:43 am
spreadeagle

20
9:44 am
UnikeTheHunter

Yes, he said 20. He said mediums should be done with virtual crosshatch, but he himself used a pair.
9:44 am
UDbmas

finally got it...now on to the weekend's... The 8's tip was great, thanks eagle.
9:44 am
spreadeagle

You're welcome.
9:45 am
UDbmas

now I will see how Saturday's was
9:45 am
UnikeTheHunter

Okay, I think I see the hidden pair. But I'll get breakfast now and come back.
10:04 am
OrangeSlice

easy.
10:49 am
RodeoRogue

go
11:00 am
RodeoRogue

done, minimal green
11:27 am
drwho

Intereseting. "Everyone" agrees puzzles on Saturday and Sunday were easy. I scored them 21 and 22 respectively. "Everyone" (including me) agrees today's puzzle is harder, but I scored it 20. My computer scoring system has its limits.
11:57 am
UnikeTheHunter

DrWho, maybe your program doesn't score a virtual missing digit high enough. Those are hard to spot no green.
11:58 am
Krys10

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's stuck on this "medium"
11:58 am
Krys10

Although I believe myself to be lazier and less disciplined than most of you...
11:59 am
UnikeTheHunter

I think I got past the first big hangup with a doubly virtual missing digit in the lower right, no green. Things went well after that, but I'm hung up again.
12:00 pm
Krys10

I just dropped in to see if I found anything new after some breakfast, but so far nothing - going back to house projects, back later.
12:02 pm
Krys10

a-ha! intersection. tedious work pays off.
12:11 pm
dalebo

Seemed easy to me.....
12:11 pm
drwho

UTH - you are right, I make no distinction on how I find a missing digit. However, for this puzzle the program claims not to have used that technique! I can't figure that out. I used the same trick in the lower right hand block that you did.
12:21 pm
UnikeTheHunter

Done, no green. Feeling proud but mentally exhausted.
12:22 pm
spreadeagle

All hail the king........
12:22 pm
UnikeTheHunter

Thanks.
2:12 pm
moedog

oh man, that was like pulling teeth!!
2:58 pm
sandbox74

I used virtual crosshatching to open the puzzle. It was easy after that
4:53 pm
brianarn

Today is the 500th puzzle! Neat!
5:47 pm
sandbox74

so it is!!! congrats to all who have finished all 500
7:50 pm
drwho

For the next 500 or just catching up on the first 500, I offer this:

http://www.pauls-pc-repair.com/sudoku/
solver/
8:00 pm
dorens

wow this is hard today... is my brain dead?
8:01 pm
drwho

Take heart dorens, you are not alone in struggling with this one.
8:02 pm
dorens

thanks. that helps!
8:07 pm
dorens

starting over... ugh!
8:12 pm
helenkeller

go
8:17 pm
dorens

finally. a lucky guess. hi helen and good luck.
8:18 pm
helenkeller

hey dorens, wd!!
8:19 pm
dorens

you'll have an easier go of it. you are faster at this than I. I don't give up, but I don't know all the naked, missing, virtual stuff that they talk about
8:20 pm
helenkeller

i don't know what that stuff means either, lol
8:21 pm
dorens

good to hear that. but still, i've noticed your times and you are quick at this. . haven't seen you much at babble.. you still there frequently?
8:21 pm
helenkeller

yep, i'm babbling, just not chatting much
8:22 pm
helenkeller

sometimes, like today, not so quick here, stuck
8:22 pm
dorens

that'
8:22 pm
dorens

that's cool... sometimes, I am not in the chatting mode... sometimes it's good though. no this one did seem particularly heinous. i'll leave you to it, hope it's not too bad for you. see you around
8:23 pm
helenkeller

bye dorens :)
8:57 pm
helenkeller

done
8:57 pm
helenkeller

sheesh - finally, needed greens
9:32 pm
herinfernallady

start