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CHAT LOG for Monday, May 20, 2019

12:37 am
irv

Done
2:01 am
Phil

start
2:11 am
Phil

ding
2:15 am
Phil

Scomo returned as PM in Aus. Fortunately a lot of the right wing candidates lost their seats, including former PM Tony Abbott. We had a rich Trump like billionaire spent $60 million trying to get elected but didn't win a seat anywhere. And the right wing One Nation are losing out too. Even the far left greens struggled a bit. Common sense and sensible middle ground the winners. Good old silent majority.
2:17 am
Phil

And our liberal party is way left of the US republicans. We already have a great medicare system, and probably the best superannuation system anywhere.
2:17 am
tuco

Not being reported that way here.
2:18 am
tuco

Not surprisingly.
2:19 am
Phil

That's interesting. What lies are they telling in the US?
2:20 am
Phil

We have an Aids drug sold here for $8 which is sold in the US for $2000 because they still have a patent! Gotta love your medical system
2:20 am
tuco

Not lies. It is the same old bent. Downplay the left and elevate the right.
2:22 am
tuco

They could develop cures instead of treatments. But that isn't profitable.
2:22 am
Phil

I feel for you, I really do. Next thing it looks like Trump wants a war with Iran. He's really got a screw loose. Actually I think the've come out!
2:23 am
tuco

As far as that goes... Bolton wants to go to war but Vlad won't let Trump attack his Ally.
2:25 am
Phil

Whose Vlad? I've heard about that nutter Bolton.
2:26 am
tuco

We are experiencing a world wide take over of government by an international crime syndicate led by Putin. Even in Oz.
2:28 am
tuco

The Right in this country have betrayed the Constitution and all their beliefs because they are in bed with the oligarchs.
2:29 am
tuco

Russia is a petrol state that relies on disinformation, deception, blackmail and murder to retain power and control foreign powers.
2:30 am
tuco

The own our president.
2:30 am
Phil

Hah, Tuco, you are very much mistaken there my friend. Putin has really no friends here. Especially after some Aussies were shot down over Ukraine.
2:31 am
Phil

I think we probably find Trump scarier than Putin
2:32 am
tuco

He funds the right wing every where. His cable network pushes far right wing ideology. Putin is telling Trump what to do.
2:33 am
tuco

John McCain kissed bomb bomb bomb Iran the neocons have wanted war with Iran for ever
2:34 am
tuco

Putin called Trump and told him to lay off and now Trump is souring on Bolton.
2:34 am
tuco

Kidded not kissed. Heh
2:35 am
tuco

Why do you think Trump has bad mouthed NATO?
2:36 am
tuco

Our president is a traitor. Plain and simple.
2:37 am
tuco

If you are still a supporter than you support racism, bigotry, ecological destruction, financial instability, and Russian imperial aspirations.
2:40 am
tuco

If you thought he was kidding when he said the noise from windmills causes cancer, then you are part of the problem. He is a con man, a buffoon, a pathological liar and a horrible role model
2:41 am
tuco

Fox News and Rupert Murdoch have been playing the rubes in this world so hard that they made it possible for this disgusting human being to be taken seriously. Rupert loves Putin too.
2:46 am
tuco

But there is good news. States with responsible leadership are implenting climate change legislation
2:48 am
tuco

Banning off shore drilling strengthening state run health care and protecting a women's right to control her own body.
2:51 am
tuco

It is an uphill battle but one we will win next year.
5:22 am
angieplumptit

All great empires die from within.
5:39 am
tincup

done
10:10 am
Phil

fair to say you're not a fan of Trump either Tuco!
10:20 am
Phil

The problem I see is though Tuco, your two political parties are moving further away from each other, the language is frankly awful on both sides and you're actually headed towards conflict in a country where there's more guns than people. And you have a president who encourages conflict and thinks it's a great idea. What I don't get is why he actually is still liked by anyone. His base are losing their jobs because he thinks it's a great idea that China pays tariffs, problem is, obviously its the American people that pay the tariffs. Rest of the world has figured out tariffs and trade wars aren't a good idea, but hey, Trump thinks he knows best. I'm really saddened that thousands of young Americans will lose their lives, and probably hundreds of thousands of innocent people will also lose their lives because Trump will start a war when it becomes apparent his economic policies start to bite him on the bum. Of course he will just tweet more crass, verbose insulting garbage about good people.
10:33 am
8201girl

Phil, you are 100% incorrect in all your assumptions.
10:34 am
Phil

We supported the US in Afghanistan and Iraq, but were burned by the fake intelligence pushed to justify WMDs. I'm not so sure, and I would hope we eouldn't blindly follow the US into the next one, particularly one of their own making.
10:35 am
Phil

8201girl, tell me, do you actually believe what Trump tweets?
10:36 am
Phil

Are they the sort of thing you believe should come out of the mouth of a President of the USA?
10:39 am
Phil

I'm sure I'm not right a lot of the time but 100% wrong all the time! Just because he says something it doesn't make it true!
11:40 am
Cinna

done
12:35 pm
tuco

Look at who he has and is pardoning. War criminals, scam artists, and racists. Disgraceful.
4:21 pm
KnightTime

How happy I am that Phil and Tuco have the world figured out.
4:21 pm
KnightTime

It makes it so much easier for us proles
5:39 pm
hoyagirl

start
5:54 pm
8201girl

Phil, do you actually believe the media even 10% of the time?
7:19 pm
tuco

How sad it is that some can't see the stone walling for what it is. If you have nothing to hide, why hide everything? If you really believe you have been exonerated, why won't you let anyone testify? 8201 this is not the media these are court/legal filings and a constitutional battle about executive power and congressional oversight.
7:21 pm
tuco

Phil if you guys elect right wing leaders you are more likely to follow the right wing perpetual war Hawks here.
7:23 pm
tuco

But I truly believe Putin will not let Trump go to war with Iran. Now the Saudis are a different story so I guess we will find out who has more sway over Hair Furor.
7:30 pm
tuco

It is a law that the IRS "shall furnish" the tax returns of anyone the chairman of the House Ways and Means committee. The administration refuses. This is obstruction and a complete slap in the face of the constitutions separation of powers. But then again not only was he a producer, Mnuchin also had a bit part in the movie, Rules don't Apply.
10:51 pm
Phil

8201girl, I tend to trust the Australian Broadcasting Company, the British Broadcasting Company and SBS. Sadly I find it hard to trust what comes from the US as there seems to be too much spin left or right to form a balanced opinion. Reuters and CNN appear less biased. I steer well away from Fox and Sky. I enjoy programmes in Oz like Q & A where a cross section of the public ask difficult questions to politicians from all sides, business and social commentators too, moderated by a capable person who appears to not show bias. Not sure if you can get it online in the US, but worth a look. I'm not on twitter and facebook
11:03 pm
Phil

KnightTime, I haven't figured out anything mate, but I'm glad we have the privilege of voting and choosing who represent us to make decisions on our behalf. I'm sad that so many don't think that its important. But with that privilege comes responsibility to not take democracy for granted. I think we should speak out when we think injustice and unfairness is being done to us and others. I offer comment because some may be interested in a moderate central leaning view from Australia. I wish there were similar views being expressed from around the world because I would love to hear what it's like for others. Sadly we always seem to hear from far left or far right which is a shame.