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						12:07 am
						PuttPutt
						
						done real easy
					 
									
									
									
						12:56 am
						hokie carla
						
						yep, easier than the last two mediums.
					 
									
									
						6:48 am
						smooth_pappa
						
						done
					 
									
									
									
						8:04 am
						sprite
						
						indeed easier than last mediums
					 
									
						8:14 am
						UnikeTheHunter
						
						Go.
					 
									
									
						8:52 am
						UnikeTheHunter
						
						Done, no greens.  Only my second Hard done w/o greens.
					 
									
						8:56 am
						OrangeSlice
						
						Not terrible without them.
					 
									
						8:59 am
						UnikeTheHunter
						
						I still haven't done last Friday's.  Sunday I made a guess.  It was going so well I saved it as a new checkpoint when my wife made me quit.  Now I find it was a bad guess and I've forgotten what my initial guess was.  I'll have to start again.
					 
									
						9:43 am
						drwho
						
						Difficulty score 30.  Like most hards here, naked and hidden pairs are the key.
					 
									
						9:52 am
						drwho
						
						The last 4 days there have been 2 hards and 2 mediums.  By my scoring method, the mediums have been harder than the hards (38 and 32 vs. 29 and 30).
					 
									
						9:56 am
						Sharidan
						
						Sorry to ask a dumb question, but how do you score each puzzle with a difficulty rating?
					 
									
						9:57 am
						drwho
						
						I wrote a program to solve and score the puzzles.  For more details see:
http://www.pauls-pc-repair.com/sudoku/
					 
									
						9:58 am
						Sharidan
						
						thank you Dr.
					 
									
						10:32 am
						Krys10
						
						ooh, i dislike hidden pairs
					 
									
						10:36 am
						Krys10
						
						finished - didn't have to use hidden pairs :)
					 
									
						10:56 am
						Python Taz
						
						moron
					 
									
									
						11:00 am
						Python Taz
						
						what your 2 little grey matter cells can't take the pressure?
					 
									
						11:05 am
						Python Taz
						
						violence thourgh a computer, how bright!!
					 
									
						11:08 am
						brianarn
						
						Hey now, let's all be friends. :D We're all here due to love of Sudoku and such. :)
					 
									
						11:10 am
						Python Taz
						
						matt grow up
					 
									
						11:10 am
						RodeoRogue
						
						Going green.
					 
									
						11:10 am
						brianarn
						
						I've gone to greens as well - I don't feel too bad though. :D It's moving along at a good rate so far.
					 
									
						11:10 am
						RodeoRogue
						
						Python and Matthew, both of you need to grow up.  This is a site for sudoku, not immature chatter. 
					 
									
						11:11 am
						RodeoRogue
						
						But it was going so well it kinda hurts to go green
					 
									
						11:12 am
						brianarn
						
						Using greens doesn't bother me so much. I mean, I still have to work out the logic. It's not like I'm guessing. It just helps me see a little more clearly. :)
					 
									
						11:12 am
						brianarn
						
						and done - I'm not sure what, but something really opened it up. Not too bad for a hard.
					 
									
						11:13 am
						RodeoRogue
						
						I like to think the less greens I use the more I have learned.  That and there is something zen like in the whole puzzle being black, white, and grey.
					 
									
						11:14 am
						brianarn
						
						but using greens and reds can give things a Christmas-y feel! :D
					 
									
						11:14 am
						RodeoRogue
						
						LOL!  It is too hot in Arizona to be even able to think about Christmas.  But at least this one finally opened up.
					 
									
						11:14 am
						brianarn
						
						Back to the expert from last Friday - didn't have time to finish that. Something has me stuck, and it's so green'd and red'd that you could use it as a Christmas decoration (I use reds sometimes to help me see things like pairs and stuff)
					 
									
						11:15 am
						RodeoRogue
						
						Last Friday still gives me a headache.  I am going on vacation next week and I am thinking about trying to figure it out over that time.  More time to do nothing.
					 
									
						11:16 am
						RodeoRogue
						
						off to archives.  
					 
									
						11:18 am
						hrhswing
						
						i completely agree
					 
									
						11:18 am
						tresbizzare
						
						tasty?
					 
									
						11:53 am
						Andy
						
						interesting chatlog today...
					 
									
						11:55 am
						Andy
						
						So, you've spent at least the last hour doing this? really?
					 
									
						11:56 am
						Andy
						
						Well, that's... uh... dedication.
					 
									
						11:58 am
						UDbmas
						
						a very charitable way to put it
					 
									
						11:58 am
						Andy
						
						Oh, I don't like to judge. When people reach this point, all you can really do is feel sorry for them.
					 
									
						11:59 am
						UDbmas
						
						and keep chatting until if fits on the screen again
					 
									
									
						11:59 am
						Andy
						
						Well, I just checked in to see if I could jog any more numbers loose... got to get back to work. Later!
					 
									
						12:00 pm
						UDbmas
						
						have fun & hb
					 
									
						1:19 pm
						Dr_God
						
						You can reload the page to get rid of the troll posts.
					 
									
						1:20 pm
						UDbmas
						
						Thank you, God!
					 
									
						1:21 pm
						andy99
						
						of all the places to fill with troll posts, this seems, well seemed, pretty unlikely
					 
									
						1:22 pm
						UDbmas
						
						must have been a lonely apprentice troll?
					 
									
						1:24 pm
						andy99
						
						but for it's accuracy, I'd have guessed it was someone head-butting the keyboard
					 
									
									
						1:26 pm
						RodeoRogue
						
						UDbmas, cute cat.  I recently lost mine, and her favorite thing to do was run across my keyboard when I was typing.
					 
									
						1:31 pm
						UDbmas
						
						So sorry, Rodeo.  We lost ours and finally after a year, we knew we needed a new one.
					 
									
						1:32 pm
						UDbmas
						
						Hodge (the cat) was a kitten when I took that last year.  He now weighs 12 lbs and is very long.  But he is still a gorgeous brown mackerel.
					 
									
						1:32 pm
						RodeoRogue
						
						Yep, there sure are easy to miss.  I have already been looking at the local shelter online and checking older ones out.
					 
									
						1:33 pm
						UDbmas
						
						The shelter was great.  Neutering is free there.
					 
									
						1:33 pm
						andy99
						
						I can watch the neighbours' cats out of this window
					 
									
						1:33 pm
						RodeoRogue
						
						I love the shelter.  There is just too many to choose from.  So many lovely animals in need of a good home
					 
									
						1:34 pm
						UDbmas
						
						Be careful, andy.  If cats know you are watching, they will do something to really mess with your mind.
					 
									
						1:36 pm
						andy99
						
						there's a big furry white one over the road ..... the front garden has quite a dense hedge
					 
									
						1:36 pm
						RodeoRogue
						
						I have to agree with that.  Cats love to play mental games with humans.  And sadly, they usually win
					 
									
						1:37 pm
						andy99
						
						so one of the others, a black one, or a grey and black tabby, comes along, peers into the hedge sometimes  ....
					 
									
						1:37 pm
						UDbmas
						
						how true...they really love the "look over the human's shoulder" game...I still fall for it and look
					 
									
						1:37 pm
						andy99
						
						and suddenly the white one jumps out
					 
									
						1:38 pm
						UDbmas
						
						ah...hedge-fun(d) cats
					 
									
						1:38 pm
						andy99
						
						and the first one turns away, pretenting to be innocent and unconcerned
					 
									
						1:38 pm
						RodeoRogue
						
						My favorite is the "I caught something and you don't know what it is" game.  And usually all it is is a piece of dust.  If that.
					 
									
						1:39 pm
						UDbmas
						
						and don't forget "look, I caught a small furry mammal and ate the head...can you guess what it was?"
					 
									
						1:40 pm
						UDbmas
						
						cats always pretend to be innocent...they seem to be like children in that
					 
									
						1:40 pm
						RodeoRogue
						
						eeewww!  I hate that game.  The worst was when she would leave the carcass in the middle of the room like it was some sort of offering or a trophy.
					 
									
						1:40 pm
						UDbmas
						
						it was a trophy for the beloved master...sometimes you wonder about a cat's concept of love
					 
									
						1:42 pm
						RodeoRogue
						
						The best part is how she always expected to be rewarded for her brilliant display of prowess.
					 
									
						1:43 pm
						UDbmas
						
						yes, rather like a child looking very proud the first time he or she uses an "adult" word...they look so innocent and proud (of course you try to explain how that isn't a nice word while trying NOT to laugh)
					 
									
						1:44 pm
						RodeoRogue
						
						People ask why I don't have kids, and I tell them I have animals.  I don't need kids.  They are just like them, only better. 
					 
									
						1:45 pm
						UDbmas
						
						Except kids call home when they are away...sometimes...um, rarely...oh, nevermind!   LOL
					 
									
						1:46 pm
						andy99
						
						I can hear a bird chirping alarm, so maybe there's a cat out there now
					 
									
						1:46 pm
						RodeoRogue
						
						LOL!  Ah, the good old teenage years.  Yeppers, that and diapers are two things I am glad I don't have.  Although I could do without the hairballs.
					 
									
						1:46 pm
						UDbmas
						
						if it's a bluejay, the cats should watch out
					 
									
						1:47 pm
						RodeoRogue
						
						Finished with another one.  Off to lunch soon.  Thanks UDbmas for reminding me why I love my kitty.
					 
									
						1:47 pm
						UDbmas
						
						my kids are adults now, and I have 3 grandchildren...oh, and one grand-cat
					 
									
						1:48 pm
						UDbmas
						
						Have a good one, Rodeo.  I hope you find a good feline friend soon.
					 
									
						1:48 pm
						RodeoRogue
						
						Sounds like a big family.  You have a good one too!
					 
									
									
						1:50 pm
						UDbmas
						
						andy, you still here?
					 
									
						1:53 pm
						andy99
						
						just about, was listening to the tv in the other room
					 
									
									
						1:53 pm
						andy99
						
						well, trying to ...
					 
									
						1:54 pm
						UDbmas
						
						multi-tasking can be rough
					 
									
						1:54 pm
						andy99
						
						well, you know that men aren't supposed to be as good at that as women are
					 
									
						1:55 pm
						UDbmas
						
						that's okay, men have their uses too...lol
					 
									
									
						2:02 pm
						UDbmas
						
						well, must do some real work for a while, tc and have fun watching the wildlife.
					 
									
						2:02 pm
						UnikeTheHunter
						
						I'm starting Friday's Expert over from scratch.
					 
									
						2:02 pm
						andy99
						
						thanks - it's all gone quiet out there now
					 
									
						2:03 pm
						andy99
						
						good luch with Friday's
					 
									
						2:03 pm
						andy99
						
						good luch with Friday's
					 
									
						2:04 pm
						andy99
						
						I can't give any advice, as  I still don't know how I did it
					 
									
						2:04 pm
						UnikeTheHunter
						
						Thanks.  Now to find the first five I did without greens.
					 
									
						2:04 pm
						andy99
						
						yeah - I did that, then got stuck for an hour and a half
					 
									
						2:05 pm
						andy99
						
						then suddenly did the rest in about 10 minutes
					 
									
						2:05 pm
						UnikeTheHunter
						
						I was stuck for days, finally guessed, thought my guess was having a good run, so I saved it as a checkpoint when my wife made me quit.  But it was a bad guess.
					 
									
						2:06 pm
						andy99
						
						a pity you can't keep a  couple of checkpoints for cases like that
					 
									
						2:21 pm
						brianarn
						
						Yeah, I wish there were more than one level of checkpoint, but I can understand what a pain that could be to code. I'm still stuck on Friday as well.
					 
									
									
						2:35 pm
						brianarn
						
						I hate when i figure it out but I can't pinpoint why - but hey, done with Friday
					 
									
						2:36 pm
						UnikeTheHunter
						
						This time I found the x-wing that I searched so long for in Friday's.
					 
									
						2:37 pm
						UnikeTheHunter
						
						Maybe I eliminated things by some other technique before.
					 
									
						2:42 pm
						twstedangel
						
						Friday's was tough! 
					 
									
						2:42 pm
						twstedangel
						
						i don't think normal techniques applied to solving that one
					 
									
						2:43 pm
						UnikeTheHunter
						
						Cute baby picture.
					 
									
						2:43 pm
						twstedangel
						
						does anyone know what the difficulty score was for that one?
					 
									
						2:43 pm
						twstedangel
						
						thanks. It's my 11 mo. old daughter
					 
									
						2:43 pm
						twstedangel
						
						I think she was 7 mo. old in this particularpic
					 
									
						2:47 pm
						UnikeTheHunter
						
						Y'know?  I'm surprised so many ladies like Sudoku.  I always have trouble finding gals interested in logic puzzles.
					 
									
						2:49 pm
						Zugzug7
						
						done. took two times and it all fell together.
					 
									
						2:52 pm
						twstedangel
						
						consider me a puzzle kind of gal :-P
					 
									
						2:53 pm
						UnikeTheHunter
						
						Is your education or career logic oriented?
					 
									
						2:58 pm
						UnikeTheHunter
						
						If you're interested in the difficulty level of Friday's, I think DrWho has them all posted someplace in his "Paul's Locks" web site.  I don't know the exact URL.
					 
									
									
						3:14 pm
						UnikeTheHunter
						
						Here is DrWho's web site.  http://pauls-pc-repair.com/sudoku/   Unfortunately, clicking on his link to the scores page doesn't work right now. 
					 
									
						3:17 pm
						UnikeTheHunter
						
						Oh, here it is.  Somehow I got the link but it didn't work just clicking it.  This is the scores page.  http://pauls-pc-repair.com/sudoku/scores.php
					 
									
						3:18 pm
						UnikeTheHunter
						
						Friday's level was 101.
					 
									
									
						3:35 pm
						twstedangel
						
						damn!
					 
									
						3:35 pm
						twstedangel
						
						i play for the fun of it. Sudoku kind of relaxes me
					 
									
						3:36 pm
						twstedangel
						
						sorry it took so long to respond --- "the terror" is awake now
					 
									
						3:36 pm
						twstedangel
						
						later everyone
					 
									
						7:50 pm
						herinfernallady
						
						start
					 
									
						9:39 pm
						UnikeTheHunter
						
						Finally I've done Friday's Expert.  I had to guess.  Just one good guess finishes it off.  
					 
									
						9:42 pm
						Andy
						
						Wow... I was stuck this morning. I just checked it and found a naked pair I missed. All done.
					 
									
						10:12 pm
						Minski
						
						I messed up this morning and had to start over but I got it pretty easily tonight using greenies and a few guesses.
					 
									
						11:47 pm
						moedog
						
						hi, folks - let's see if i can beat the deadline!