Ionobelle: re-read what I said. I did not say Fascism or Nazism repudiated private property. However here are some planks from the Nazi platform:
--We therefore demand...That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.
--...We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
--We demand the nationalization of all trusts.
--We demand profit-sharing in large industries.
--We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.
--We demand...the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople...
--We demand an agrarian reform...and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose...
--In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education...We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.
At the very least those planks show a rather callous disregard for property rights.
Difficulty score 26.
MrO: thanks for sharing your experience.
dr. who, yes those were parts of the party plank in 1920, but they were included to try to position the party to appeal to the left, which it had abandoned by 1933. In addition, the particular industries targeted were felt to be dominated by Jews and therefore the planks were a type of code for anti-Semitism. In practice, (once they actually had power) and in philosophy, they had no problem with property rights that did not interfere with their other goals. Again, they were seen as a solution to the leftward drift of the party and were heavily supported by the military and the industrialists (not your hotbed of socialism)
"leftward drift of the COUNTRY" not party.
You have to start right out looking for loners. One loner of five. A good challenge. 22.
The Nazis never abandoned there platform (program). They couldn't. Its preamble stated:
"The Program of the German Workers’ Party is a program for our time.
The leadership rejects the establishment of new aims after those set out in the Program have been achieved, for the sole purpose of making it possible for the Party to continue to exist as the result of the artificially stimulated dissatisfaction of the masses."
In other words, the platform was unalterable.
Yes, I know; but that doesn't mean they did those things and in fact often did the opposite. Yes, they would gladly have suppressed the free market to their own un-democratic ends; but they were not about that, they were about nationalism, militarism and traditional values. they persecuted and purged socialists, communists, and labor leaders. they were a "Far Right" party. I am German and grew up there. They were not on or of the left. Sure they had some stuff in their platform borrowed from the left; Marx borrowed some of his ideas from John Locke; that doesn't mean Stalin put them into practice.
To my mind, authoritarian Big Government is Left. Laissez-faire capitalism is Right. So if you are going to communicate in words I understand, you'll have to say Nazi Germany was far Left Wing.
you can be on the right or the left and believe in civil liberties or not. People on the left do believe in regulation...but not many of my friends on the right believe in child labour, paying women less for the exact same job, no worker protections, no sick leave, now
a few do believe in abolishing the minimum wage, or the ADA; but for the most part, my friends on the right don't want laissez-faire capitalism. Economics and systems of government can correspond in all different ways. I have friends on the left who are anarchy-sydicalist and don't believe in any centralized government.
Nazi Germany was not Laissez-faire capitalism. They were fascist. And allowed oligarchy Krupps, etc. More importantly they were very anti-left, against unions and hated communism. So they were definitely far right.
Fascism was highly militaristic, and as such, fascists often significantly increased military spending. It also emphasized privatization.
Fascism operated from a Social Darwinist view of human relations. The aim was to promote superior individuals and weed out the weak. In terms of economic practice, this meant promoting the interests of successful businessmen while destroying trade unions and other organizations of the working class. Fascist governments encouraged the pursuit of private profit and offered many benefits to large businesses, but they demanded in return that all economic activity should serve the national interest. Historian Gaetano Salvemini argued in 1936 that fascism makes taxpayers responsible to private enterprise, because "the State pays for the blunders of private enterprise... Profit is private and individual. Loss is public and social."
Most American would say they reject fascism yet many of our brothers and sisters either willingly or unwillingly whole heartedly support it by supporting destruction of unions, tax cuts and credits to profitable corporations.
Most people who realize that there is ongoing support for fascism in this country are the people who support Bernie Sanders. It is amazing to me how many there are. For an Independent Democratic Socialist to take one of the most powerful political figures to the bitter end of a primary fight and win as many primaries as he did should tell anyone watching that a large portion of the American people reject our steady slide into economic fascism that has occurred over the last 40 years. This is what is really meant when the polls say people think the country is on the wrong path.
Please replace willingly or unwillingly with knowingly or unknowingly below.
The only difference between todays Republicans and the Fascist of the mid 20th century is that the Republicans do not benefit large business and demand that all economic activity should serve the national interest. They believe the nationall interest is served by benefitting large business, thereby using fascists means to serve an oligarchical end. Anarchism. A word that has had chaos hung upon it actually means anti- archism. Monarchism, Socialism, Capitalism, Oligarchism, Communism.
This is one of the reasons I am member of the IWW and anachronistic group with a great history that believes the workers should control the means of production. Not in a communist sense but more like the co-op drwho gets his energy from.
And Government should be of the people, by the people, and for the people. We do not believe corporations are people, my friend.
On a lighter note, Hit level 20 in Pokemon Go this weekend while enjoying the 1000 Islands this weekend. Took a boat tour and learned something new. Specifically about how the War or 1812 is remembered and taught outside of the U.S. Interesting.