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Difficulty: Hard Friday, February 16, 2007

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CHAT LOG for Friday, February 16, 2007

12:08 am
TeaNCrackers

done
12:38 am
WHB

Done
12:39 am
raggedyandy3478

done
1:22 am
Wolfrick

go
4:33 am
h

donego
4:34 am
h

crud - i didnt check that the msg went thru...
4:35 am
h

took somewhere between 20-40 mins i think... no greens or reds needed - pretty straightforward actually.
4:53 am
spreadeagle

h - You must have a crystal ball to be able to do this one without greens. I have 8 filled in, stuck. Going green.
4:58 am
spreadeagle

Dang 5's! Why didn't I see that!
5:05 am
spreadeagle

Done. I needed greens to find the obvious, then it was simple. Really easy for a "hard'.
5:07 am
spreadeagle

LeslieAnn - It was August 25.
6:28 am
Moozey

well you've done better than me spreadeagle I've only found 7 and am resorting to greenies
6:41 am
Moozey

yip easy with the greens
7:14 am
sandbox74

no greens... it's rough waters at the start... but after some key fills, it's smooth sailing
7:15 am
yul

interesting middle right sq
7:15 am
eyeman

whew, finished it before heading to work. Needed a couple of greens. Poor reds are ignored
7:29 am
smooth_pappa

and go
7:30 am
chebuctonian

good morning
7:30 am
smooth_pappa

mronign
7:39 am
smooth_pappa

closing in...
7:39 am
smooth_pappa

and done!
8:19 am
brittlefish.com

go
9:14 am
spellacked

go
9:38 am
spellacked

done - a little slow start, but found the wedge and it all fell into place
10:17 am
Fizzbut

go
10:37 am
UnikeTheHunter

Go.
10:40 am
UnikeTheHunter

You can tell I'm old. I use capital letters.
10:41 am
doyleww

Tough audience, eh?
10:56 am
mmmmmmp

what up?
11:04 am
Fizzbut

done
11:04 am
UnikeTheHunter

Congrats, Fizz.
11:06 am
Fizzbut

thx. I tried to do it without greens but was too impatient
11:06 am
UnikeTheHunter

I'm using greens. I Can't keep much in my head at one time.
11:07 am
Fizzbut

when it start to blur all together is when I start
11:09 am
Fizzbut

off to get what I'm suppose to be doing done :)
11:21 am
UnikeTheHunter

Something wrong. I'll quit for now... maybe come back later. I hate when I make a mistake.
12:17 pm
ADHDWordLover

what is the code to enter to get all the greens filled in?
12:19 pm
spreadeagle

The last time I gave the javascript it started a long discussion with some members calling it cheating.
12:19 pm
ADHDWordLover

hey eagle... know u from babble/
12:20 pm
ADHDWordLover

i'll take the code if you'll give it to me.
12:20 pm
Moozey

darn it ....trying to finish the 13th Feb and got down to the last two numbers and I mucked up somewhere else arrrrrggghhhhh
12:22 pm
spreadeagle

I've only been to babble a couple of times. Here's the code; since there is no prize and we only play to have fun, how can it be cheating?
12:22 pm
spreadeagle

javascript:for (i=1; i<=9; i++) {for (j=1; j<=9; j++) {if (grid[i][j].value == '') {ClearTinySquares(i,j);}}}for (i=1; i<=9; i++) {for (j=1; j<=9; j++) {if (grid[i][j].value != '') {var tmp_value = grid[i][j].value;for (k=1; k<=9; k++) {for (l=1; l<=9; l++) {if (grid[k][l].value == '') {if ((Math.ceil(i/3) == Math.ceil(k/3) && Math.ceil(j/3) == Math.ceil(l/3)) || i == k || j == l) {grid[k][l]['mini'][tmp_value] = -1;}}}}}}}for (i=1; i<=9; i++) { for (j=1; j<=9; j++) { if (grid[i][j].value == '') { for (k=1; k<=9; k++) { if (grid[i][j]['mini'][k] != -1) grid[i][j]['mini'][k] = 1; }}}}for (i=1; i<=9; i++) {for (j=1; j<=9; j++) {if (grid[i][j].value == '') {for (k=1; k<=9; k++) {if (grid[i][j]['mini'][k] != 1) grid[i][j]['mini'][k] = 0;}}}}PopulatePuzzle(grid);void(0);
12:22 pm
spreadeagle

Let the arguing begin...........
12:23 pm
derfasaurus

do you have to have greasemonkey for that to work?
12:23 pm
ADHDWordLover

where do i put it? lol
12:23 pm
spreadeagle

Enter it in the address line of your browzer any time after you begin a puzzle.
12:24 pm
ADHDWordLover

tx eagle. if othere don't want it, then don't use it.
12:24 pm
ADHDWordLover

why the argument? get a life people... lighten up
12:25 pm
derfasaurus

whatever, filling in possibilities isn't even the hard part
12:25 pm
derfasaurus

its getting rid of them that sucks
12:25 pm
spreadeagle

I agree. I seldom use it because I don't "see" the solutions like I do when I type in the greens.
12:27 pm
ADHDWordLover

bbl have fun and tx eagle.
12:27 pm
derfasaurus

i think im too analytical to "see" the solution
12:28 pm
spreadeagle

You're welcome.
12:50 pm
kittybat

Ah, I wish I could use that script, but I'm at work and we can only use IE here. It's not that it's hard to put in the greens, it's just tedious and my lunch break only lasts so long.
12:54 pm
spreadeagle

Hi Kitty, it works fine with my IE7
1:02 pm
kittybat

Strange. When I pop that script into my address bar and click 'go', nothing happens. I've got IE6, maybe that's the problem.
1:12 pm
spreadeagle

I don't know. Did you remove everything else in the address bar first?
1:13 pm
Twin C

IE6 won't take the script - I've tried everythign
1:13 pm
Twin C

everything, even.
1:18 pm
spreadeagle

I've got 5 computers around the house and they all have 7, so I can't try it here. Sorry.
1:26 pm
dan2bit

you can try creating a bookmark with that as the location
1:26 pm
dan2bit

or I guess in IE a 'shortcut'
1:29 pm
Twin C

IE6 has "favorites", which I imagine are bookmarks, but I can't seem to save the script as one. . .
2:15 pm
aki2403

well, that code works with Firefox 2.0.0.1
2:23 pm
helenkeller

go
2:52 pm
helenkeller

done
2:53 pm
helenkeller

well, that was pretty easy once i opened my eyes
2:53 pm
helenkeller

geez, i felt like i was doing that one underwater or something
2:54 pm
kittybat

Well, I wish my eyes would open up, then...
2:55 pm
kittybat

Ah, there it is. I see, I see, said the blind woman...
3:21 pm
ypsigirl

done!!!
4:06 pm
daneel

w00t!
4:06 pm
daneel

i do so much better at sudoku than babble : )
6:57 pm
Fire_red

Hi All this is my second time here, just signed up.
8:05 pm
Sereg-dae

Good evening everyone!
8:10 pm
Sereg-dae

Kicks the rolling tumbleweed...
8:26 pm
Sereg-dae

Is anyone out there?
8:41 pm
OrangeSlice

Nobody's home.
8:51 pm
Sereg-dae

So, there is life out there
8:52 pm
davekingpt

No life here. I'm doing sudoku on a Friday night. You call that a life? *LOL*
8:53 pm
OrangeSlice

Alas
8:53 pm
Sereg-dae

lol, same feelings here, nothing to do, and look where I end up
8:54 pm
bambu

i think i picked the wrong night to learn how to play sudoku...
8:54 pm
Sereg-dae

There are plenty of places online you could find to learn.
8:54 pm
OrangeSlice

Here's something even more lifeless: I did the puzzle this morning.
8:54 pm
OrangeSlice

lol
8:54 pm
Sereg-dae

wow
8:55 pm
OrangeSlice

I usually solve them over my morning cup(s) of coffee.
8:56 pm
OrangeSlice

This "hard" seemed easy to me
8:58 pm
davekingpt

Not sure if I'm ready to call it easy but I haven't been totally stonewalled yet.
8:58 pm
Sereg-dae

Same here, moving slowly, yet steadily.
8:59 pm
OrangeSlice

There's a few hidden triples that open up several cells.
9:00 pm
Sereg-dae

triples? not familiar with the term.
9:00 pm
davekingpt

Listening to the new Beatles album while doing this. It's only the fourth time I've listened to it this week. *grin*
9:00 pm
Sereg-dae

awesome
9:00 pm
OrangeSlice

marking greens. three cells with the same set of numbers in them.
9:00 pm
Sereg-dae

ok, I know the concept, just not the term, thank you
9:01 pm
OrangeSlice

e.g. three cells with "1 2" "2 3" and "3 1" as the only potential numbers.
9:01 pm
OrangeSlice

Occasionally found in a set of four or five cells, but only on the really tough puzzles :)
9:01 pm
davekingpt

How do you solve those triples? Just wait for one of them to reveal themselves?
9:02 pm
OrangeSlice

Yes, you use them to eliminate those candidates from the box/row/column
9:02 pm
Sereg-dae

Ok, thank you very much
9:05 pm
Sereg-dae

Anyone listen to Mogwai?
9:05 pm
davekingpt

what or who is Mogwai?
9:06 pm
Sereg-dae

An alternative rock band
9:07 pm
Sereg-dae

closer to post-rock
9:08 pm
davekingpt

"Post-rock"? Sorry, I'm a child of the 60's. Therer can never be a "post -rock" because rock and roll is here to stay! *LOL*
9:09 pm
OrangeSlice

hehe
9:09 pm
Sereg-dae

yeah, I still don't understand the term itself
9:10 pm
Sereg-dae

it's basically a recently created genre used to describe a type of rock that is very atmospheric, with little vocals if any at all
9:10 pm
OrangeSlice

More into metal myself. Not the icky kind though.
9:12 pm
davekingpt

I saw a recent photo of Peter Frampton today. God looking at him made me feel old.
9:12 pm
Sereg-dae

Yeah, I listen to a bit of everything, I'm picky about metal, I like metal bands who incorporate more than just screaming vocals like Mnemic and From Autumn to Ashes
9:12 pm
OrangeSlice

Right.
9:12 pm
OrangeSlice

Sonata Arctica and Stratovarius are my two favorite grops.
9:13 pm
Sereg-dae

Do you listen to Dream Theater?
9:13 pm
OrangeSlice

been meaning to sample them, but haven't gotten around to it yet
9:14 pm
Sereg-dae

They are incredible, I recently picked up their "Live at Budokan" CD and they sound as good live as they do out of the studio.
9:14 pm
davekingpt

Orange are those "Post rock" or H-M groups that you mentioned?
9:14 pm
OrangeSlice

Well I wouldn't call them heavy.
9:15 pm
OrangeSlice

But metal, yes
9:17 pm
OrangeSlice

Sonata Arctica tends to incorporate more orchestral elements (piano, violin) into their music, along with their front's wide vocal range it makes quite a unique sort of music.
9:18 pm
Sereg-dae

Cool, I'll have to check into them
9:18 pm
Sereg-dae

Dang, if only I hadn't already spent all the money on my iTunes cards I just bought
9:19 pm
OrangeSlice

some samples here (playable in browser with flash)
9:19 pm
OrangeSlice

http://www.last.fm/music/Sonata+Arctica
9:20 pm
davekingpt

Sounds a little like Renaissance from the 70's. They took classical melodies and put them into rock, sometimes with an orchestra. Their singer was classically trained and had a several octave range. Although they were a long cry from metal when I saw them their opening act was an up and coming band called "A/C-D/C".
9:20 pm
OrangeSlice

Ah, those aussies.
9:21 pm
davekingpt

OK, I will now label this puzzle as "hard"
9:22 pm
Sereg-dae

I just got snagged
9:28 pm
OrangeSlice

Don't get your head in to the complicated maneuvers too much. Sometimes it's time to go back and start cross-cutting again :)
9:29 pm
OrangeSlice

or vice versa, I suppose.
9:32 pm
Sereg-dae

Wow, much thanks are owed to you orange. I just started cross-cutting and finished the puzzle.
9:33 pm
OrangeSlice

:)
9:37 pm
drwho

Difficulty score 36. Naked and hidden pairs.
9:39 pm
drwho

I find that triples and quadruple usually turn out to be the hard way of getting what cross hatching would have gotten with much less work.
9:40 pm
davekingpt

Anyone know how this game got its name?
9:40 pm
OrangeSlice

I usually reserve triple/quad hunting as a last resort
9:41 pm
drwho

Check the wikipedia article for the history of the name.