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Difficulty: Hard Monday, April 10, 2006

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CHAT LOG for Monday, April 10, 2006

12:06 am
sprite

Morning all
12:06 am
Rachel

morning
12:07 am
zas

hey there sprite
12:14 am
LeslieAnn

sprite are you cheating on babble? ;)
12:15 am
sprite

Lol! Of course not... I start with sudoku, so I can give babble the time it deserves afterwards... ;)
12:15 am
LeslieAnn

ahh, good plan :)
12:15 am
torgone

Yikes!
12:15 am
sprite

This one is tough!
12:17 am
raggedyandy3478

i come over to see how it is today and the first thing i see is 'this one is tough!' - - - not a good sign
12:19 am
sprite

Well, perhaps it's just me and you finish it in a heartbeat, so you can post "Well, not that tough actually" and give us all hope :)
12:19 am
moe492

hey andy
12:19 am
moe492

guess who
12:19 am
mab

Aha! torgone, Sprite, LeslieAnn, etc.! Words just weren't sufficient, eh? Well! I never... It doesn't look tough.
12:19 am
raggedyandy3478

hello...idk
12:19 am
hardcore

hay all!
12:19 am
moe492

we ate dinner together...
12:20 am
raggedyandy3478

michael
12:20 am
moe492

nice
12:20 am
raggedyandy3478

????
12:20 am
sprite

All the usual suspects :)
12:20 am
moe492

hehe
12:20 am
raggedyandy3478

haha, figured, after that clue, and the fact that we do nothing but this during class
12:20 am
CJ162003

hi all
12:20 am
moe492

but of course
12:20 am
raggedyandy3478

dont you have work to be doing?>
12:20 am
zas

ok I'm stuck
12:21 am
moe492

im designing a website as we speak
12:21 am
raggedyandy3478

on pages?
12:22 am
moe492

nope, not enough options, they make you stick to pre-determined formats.... i use notepad
12:22 am
mab

I'm cleaning my oven.
12:22 am
raggedyandy3478

then upload to pages? or use cc?
12:23 am
sprite

I am playing sudoku
12:23 am
LeslieAnn

mab what time is it where you are?
12:23 am
mab

Sorry, old US tv commercial.
12:23 am
moe492

they have about 50 L&f's but only 4 diff layouts, this is for a project, so its easier to do it from scratch
12:23 am
sprite

;)
12:23 am
moe492

pages is still in beat tho
12:23 am
LeslieAnn

oh ok... i thought that was an odd thing to say ;)
12:23 am
raggedyandy3478

gotcha
12:23 am
mab

1.23 am
12:24 am
RandLS

definitely not a hard puzzle
12:24 am
raggedyandy3478

how long have you been at this particular puzzle?
12:24 am
LeslieAnn

i was going to ask who cleans the oven at 1 a.m.!
12:24 am
moe492

just logged on
12:24 am
raggedyandy3478

gotcha
12:24 am
moe492

not much to work with today
12:25 am
RandLS

puzzle took all of 20 minutes
12:25 am
moe492

ive been at it for 2 so i guess theres hope
12:26 am
raggedyandy3478

same, but talking all too much
12:26 am
mab

It was a failed joke. The reference was to an old US tv ad. Others were speaking of designing web pages, etc. Never mind.
12:26 am
sprite

Got some kids to take care of, so I'll be back for more.
12:26 am
raggedyandy3478

wats w/ the no 6s, but most 7s thats not like the usual iron sudoku......
12:27 am
rcheramy

7s is where I started... they were the easiest.
12:27 am
raggedyandy3478

there are 2 that i cant get, should it be that way?
12:28 am
raggedyandy3478

2 7s that is
12:28 am
sprite

Same here.
12:28 am
rcheramy

in the 2 middle bottom boxes?
12:28 am
sprite

*tears self away from screen now*
12:28 am
raggedyandy3478

yes
12:29 am
rcheramy

ya In 2 minutes into this and those are the only 7s I don't have yet.
12:29 am
raggedyandy3478

ok, ty, just making sure we are on the same page
12:30 am
Kringer

looking at 5s and 9s will help with the last two sevens
12:31 am
raggedyandy3478

moe....as reba would put, Anife is good!
12:32 am
moe492

tis true, he has some mad talent
12:32 am
Debs40ish

I'm done....
12:32 am
raggedyandy3478

nicely done debs
12:32 am
Debs40ish

Cheers Andy...
12:32 am
moe492

congrats
12:32 am
LeslieAnn

debs is a star!
12:33 am
raggedyandy3478

and of course her sales bit is gonna work on me, cuz u have to admit, she knows music
12:33 am
Debs40ish

Some have said they'd like to see me hanging in night sky!
12:33 am
zas

done. Off to babble land. See you all there
12:34 am
mab

bright lights, Debs, bright lights....
12:34 am
Debs40ish

lol
12:34 am
Debs40ish

Anyway I'll leave you all to it.. daughters dragging me up to the city in an hour or so to get her a dress!...
12:35 am
Debs40ish

Take care everyone.. be happy & smile... Lifes too short... Good luck with the game (((hugs)))
12:36 am
LeslieAnn

have a good day debs!
12:36 am
torgone

Later debs ..
12:36 am
Debs40ish

ty Leslie.. and you...cya
12:36 am
MotiveForce

later debz
12:36 am
Debs40ish

laters Mot...
12:39 am
bstadil

Done Not so hard as yesterdays medium
12:41 am
LeslieAnn

good job, bstadil
12:44 am
LeslieAnn

sooooooooo many little green numbers...
12:44 am
levus516

tell me about it
12:48 am
bstadil

I am not so sure that using little green and red numbers doesn't add more confusing. The one today can be solved straight
12:49 am
LeslieAnn

well, now that i've done all of them, i'm going to say it's necessary to do them :)
12:49 am
MotiveForce

metoo!
12:49 am
shiroro

I don't think anything's helping on this one
12:52 am
MotiveForce

Mountain Dew helps.
12:52 am
raggedyandy3478

sunkist....thats the only way to go
12:55 am
raggedyandy3478

moe u still on?
12:55 am
rcheramy

got the 7s ...
12:55 am
moe492

bwahah
12:56 am
moe492

how you doing?
12:56 am
raggedyandy3478

stuck, u feel like doing this during class?
12:56 am
moe492

the instant you asked if i was still here, i put in my last number
12:56 am
shiroro

rrrrrrrrrr, I can't get the rest of the 9s (or pretty much anything at this point)
12:56 am
moe492

its direct, every last one
12:56 am
raggedyandy3478

wow, just kidding
12:56 am
moe492

no assumptions
12:57 am
moe492

ill help you during physics
12:57 am
raggedyandy3478

we'll see, im not completely done for the night
12:57 am
moe492

im hovering just off the tip of both of the leader-boards
12:57 am
CJ162003

done
12:57 am
MotiveForce

where u 2 go to school?
12:58 am
moe492

ga tech
12:58 am
raggedyandy3478

Georgia Tech
12:58 am
MotiveForce

haha w0rd
12:58 am
MotiveForce

RIT
12:58 am
MotiveForce

also a tech
12:58 am
moe492

nice
12:59 am
MotiveForce

either of you know Rob Haynes?
12:59 am
FilipeanieSigel

ahhh, rit, you a photo major?
12:59 am
MotiveForce

nope, Computer Science
12:59 am
moe492

nope, alright, im signing off gotta finish this website
12:59 am
moe492

see yall same time tomorrow
12:59 am
MotiveForce

sad but true... later moe
12:59 am
moe492

really? im cs as well
1:00 am
raggedyandy3478

see you in the morn moe
1:00 am
MotiveForce

w00t CS r0xx
1:00 am
moe492

argh, you're the type that give us bad names
1:00 am
moe492

kidding
1:00 am
moe492

later all
1:00 am
MotiveForce

haha later
1:00 am
raggedyandy3478

haha
1:06 am
sprite

Ok, I admit, this one was fun.
1:06 am
raggedyandy3478

ne tips on how to get out of this rut?
1:06 am
LeslieAnn

sprite, whenever i'm getting really frustrated with something, you always jump in with how fun it is :)
1:09 am
MotiveForce

my bot is too slow and that makes me sad.
1:09 am
MotiveForce

:'(
1:10 am
jojomnky

i like the tough ones
1:19 am
raggedyandy3478

im moving slowly but surely
1:24 am
MotiveForce

metoo.... without the surely
1:25 am
MotiveForce

my bot is slower than i am, so it's no loss i guess :-/
1:25 am
MotiveForce

darn thing is chugging :(
1:27 am
rcheramy

be nice to have ONE six on this thing
1:28 am
raggedyandy3478

same here
1:29 am
rcheramy

or a 9 in the 3rd column
1:29 am
ZippyRocket

woohoo got my first six..... hope i didn't stuff it up along the way
1:29 am
MotiveForce

isn't that one of the givens?
1:29 am
sellout

This one took me a while
1:30 am
sellout

Had to hit the reset button at one point, argh
1:32 am
raggedyandy3478

DONE!!!
1:33 am
rcheramy

this one is killing me
1:33 am
ZippyRocket

3 points... Yay!
1:34 am
raggedyandy3478

amy....all i can tell ya is go back through and look at something stuff that you can 'derive'
1:34 am
raggedyandy3478

its really screwy utnil it all just falls right into place
1:35 am
raggedyandy3478

well seeing as how i need to be up and ready for class in 5 hrs, i should go!
1:38 am
MotiveForce

w00t done...
1:38 am
MotiveForce

back to haxxing my bot
1:38 am
MotiveForce

(the lyric-adding one for lyricwiki.org btw ;))
1:38 am
MotiveForce

laterz all
1:38 am
rcheramy

later
1:41 am
Babbler

easy
2:35 am
bandm

did anyone else find that way easier than yesterday's medium?
2:35 am
hurkle

its killing me, actually... yesterday's was cake
2:36 am
bandm

yesterday took me about 20 mins, today about 10, just all the numbers fell in immediately
2:36 am
hurkle

man, i wish it would do that for me :)
2:44 am
bandm

just different ways of looking at it I guess :D
2:44 am
hurkle

lol
3:16 am
Psycho_Puppy

Once the first six goes in, it's plain sailing..
3:18 am
Psycho_Puppy

Okay, I thought that one was much easier than yesterdays.
3:25 am
Laura_M

Heyy!
3:29 am
trioptimum

this one looks really hard.
3:29 am
Linda

it is!
3:29 am
Psycho_Puppy

Hey!
3:29 am
Psycho_Puppy

Lauzie? You disappeared again?
3:30 am
Psycho_Puppy

-Sigh.-
3:30 am
Laura_M

No..I'm here..trying to figure this one out!
3:30 am
Laura_M

How are you getting on?
3:30 am
Psycho_Puppy

Lol I did it in like 14 minutes.
3:30 am
Psycho_Puppy

Yesterdays took me forever!
3:31 am
Laura_M

Lol. I missed yesterdays :(
3:31 am
Psycho_Puppy

Aww. Bear was watching over my shoulder, and I got nervous. I think that's partly why it took so long!
3:32 am
Laura_M

Lol!
3:32 am
Laura_M

Is he back now then?
3:32 am
Laura_M

Is he back now then?
3:32 am
Psycho_Puppy

Yeah. He got back Friday night. But he's only staying till tomorrow.
3:32 am
Laura_M

O ok!
3:32 am
Psycho_Puppy

He was gonna go back last night, but I was very...persuasive.
3:33 am
Psycho_Puppy

Lol.
3:33 am
Laura_M

Lol! Haha.
3:33 am
Psycho_Puppy

I've not heard from Solomon or Suki. I feel so bad but just can't be bothered to do it.
3:33 am
Psycho_Puppy

Okay, gonna go on MSN.
3:34 am
Laura_M

Same here! We will get it done though we always do!
3:34 am
Laura_M

...Eventually
3:44 am
hurkle

dang that was hard... first time I have ever had to guess on a 2-possibility cell and then backtrack!!!
3:44 am
hurkle

i must have missed something somewhere...
4:19 am
sherb

aarrgghh... I don't like the look of this one...
4:45 am
mallika sen

done :-)
4:45 am
mallika sen

done :-)
4:46 am
System

done :-)


4:46 am
System

done :-)

4:46 am
System

done :-)



4:46 am
jdog

not done! :-(
4:51 am
bex777

finished!
4:51 am
sherb

are you done, System?
4:53 am
bex777

lol sherb
4:54 am
sherb

well done, bex... that was quick!! :D
4:54 am
sherb

I'm making even less progress with this than I did with Babble... time for a break...
5:57 am
augurus

Curses, I've been paying attention to the CMT time of the site.
6:29 am
rjan_de

done :-)
6:30 am
SeaBrie

does the time that you complete the puzzle affect your ranking?
6:30 am
rjan_de

@seaBrie: no
6:30 am
SeaBrie

cool
6:32 am
rjan_de

forget the ranking. if you solve every sudoku, your ranking will be worse than the ranking of people who only solve the hard ones.
6:32 am
SeaBrie

oh, how silly
6:32 am
rjan_de

don't tell me ... ;-)
6:32 am
rjan_de

<--- back 2 work
6:33 am
rjan_de

bye
6:33 am
SeaBrie

ta-ra
6:45 am
Lamancha

That needed a bit of brute force - entertainment over.
6:56 am
SeaBrie

hmm
6:57 am
SeaBrie

I hope it doesn't /need/ brute forcing
7:10 am
UDbmas

good morning & good luck all
7:11 am
Sencer

likewise
7:11 am
UDbmas

ty
7:20 am
morgan

this puzzle sucks. too many empty fields, too many possibilities and no way to exclude any of these... *scnarf*
7:20 am
MDidia

Afternoon folks, re: "brute forcing" - it took me while, but no the grid doesn't need brute force or guesses today, you can use logic alone.
7:21 am
UDbmas

logically speaking... can I buy a 6?
7:24 am
MDidia

The key to today's puzzle is mutually exclusive pairs (or naked pairs - whatever tyhe technical term is?)
7:24 am
morgan

i kno wthe term "naked pairs". perhaps i got the key now. or not.
7:25 am
MDidia

Anyway, I'm off to lunch.
7:25 am
UDbmas

have a good one... it's b'fast here
7:30 am
morgan

pouh got it! see you tomorrow
7:30 am
UDbmas

wtg, have a good day
7:55 am
David Mitchell

Looks like this one could take a while.
8:04 am
UDbmas

done!
8:14 am
Dave

hmm, once you get going it's not too bad
8:28 am
morgan

btw... i don't understand the ranking. some people say that it is better if only solve th hard ones, but then you don't get points on the "village elders" ranking. since april, 1 i earned 16 points on the "viallge elders" ranking, but only 6 on the "cream o' the crop" list
8:28 am
peternl

hi all
8:29 am
peternl

only 6? The formula indicates the minimum for cream rankings is 100...?
8:50 am
dageekkid

z
8:50 am
dageekkid

ez
8:56 am
caderoux

raised my average...
9:49 am
freshMagic

Rahhh. This one's kicking me.
9:50 am
peternl

its definitely hard
9:55 am
Cloclo1800

gosh, this one stinls!
9:56 am
peternl

got it!
9:57 am
Cloclo1800

yay! *claps*
9:57 am
outwestau

about 30 secs ahead of me
9:57 am
outwestau

about 30 secs ahead of me
9:57 am
NJL

hi all...sounds like a hard one
9:58 am
freshMagic

Darn. Hard it is indeed.
9:58 am
peternl

that was deffinitely a tricky one
9:58 am
peternl

thousands of little green numbers
10:00 am
outwestau

good night all
10:00 am
NJL

sleep well
10:01 am
NJL

and done
10:01 am
NJL

good luck all, I'm off to bed
10:02 am
freshMagic

Hmrpf. Done. Needed one guess here. Very unsatisfying!
10:15 am
chebuctonian

hi all
10:26 am
miller da killer

first one in 2 days and it's such a relief that it was fairly easy. and yay! it gets me three points
10:47 am
Atalante

whoa. that was weird. all my 6s turned into blank tiles
10:47 am
LeslieAnn

lol, i wouldn't know, i don't have any 6 tiles!
10:48 am
hurshy

hey ata :)
10:48 am
hurshy

and leslie :)
10:48 am
LeslieAnn

hey hursh
10:48 am
hurshy

taking a sudoku break to clear my head for last 7 words
10:49 am
LeslieAnn

well, the jury's out on this one, some people say it's easy, others are stuck (me included :)
10:49 am
hurshy

it should be np for me... i can do any sudoku as long as there's no "chain forcing" without much trouble.
10:49 am
LeslieAnn

probably. what is chain forcing?
10:50 am
Atalante

its an ok one ...
10:50 am
Atalante

and I cant look at babble at the moment, the chat log's all weird
10:50 am
hurshy

it's when you have to guess
10:50 am
hurshy

chat log weird computer wise or content wise?
10:50 am
LeslieAnn

oh. well i'm to that point right about now ;)
10:51 am
hurshy

no you aren't leslie, you only THINK you are.
10:51 am
LeslieAnn

yeah, i THINK i'm going to guess ;)
10:51 am
hurshy

*hurshy is alarmed*
10:52 am
Atalante

computer wise - everything is showing up 4 times
10:52 am
hurshy

ack
10:52 am
LeslieAnn

someone else was complaining about that yesterday, atalante
10:52 am
Atalante

its really annoying!
10:53 am
hurshy

yeah, it just happens from time to time
10:53 am
Atalante

are the Us all UNs? I'll ask you here :P
10:53 am
LeslieAnn

sometimes, when i have that problem, it'll take one set of conversation and repeat it several times. so i'll be reading down and thinking, didn't they already say this?
10:53 am
hurshy

no only 2/3
10:54 am
hurshy

yeah me too leslie
10:55 am
Atalante

I'm having a I-cant-see-Us-day today
10:55 am
hurshy

*tee hee*
10:56 am
Atalante

you're not helping! :P
10:56 am
LeslieAnn

hmmm, i think i'll take a break to go babble. maybe see you ladies over there.
10:56 am
hurshy

*laughs immoderately at ata anyway*
10:56 am
Atalante

pffffft! *grins*
10:57 am
hurshy

:)
11:14 am
riverman

I had to guess once but got lucky and didn't have to backtrack.
11:14 am
hurshy

done.
11:48 am
David Mitchell

I'm glad I have a while to figure out what I'm missing
11:52 am
acheekymonkey

i think they have been getting easier, or all the practise is making me better.... :)
11:59 am
David Mitchell

That's good, cheeky monkey
12:09 pm
David Mitchell

I thought they were getting easier for me
12:13 pm
amyh

oooh a hard! is it really tricky?
12:17 pm
chebuctonian

amyh: fairly straightforward, if you don't have a million things interrupting you ;)
12:17 pm
lslele

sometimes i feel as though there is a tetris and sudoku parallel but i cant get my head around it
1:02 pm
yul

hello everybody
1:11 pm
blad

hello
1:11 pm
amyh

done!
1:19 pm
allanx2000

done
2:04 pm
british16chica

this is one of those puzzles that with undivided attention should be a snap, but since i am working and sneaking this in, it's really confusing
2:09 pm
answerguru

Sweet...that one was a piece of cake.
2:27 pm
scribble

I got most of the 3's, 5's, and 7's, so where should i start next?
2:51 pm
hurshy

*waits for helen to arrive*
2:52 pm
hurshy

hi helen!
2:52 pm
helenkeller

LOL - hi hurshy !!!!
2:53 pm
hurshy

:)
2:53 pm
macuser

hi hurshy
2:53 pm
helenkeller

have you done the puzzle yet?
2:53 pm
hurshy

yes i'm all done. hi mac!
2:53 pm
hurshy

helen, you should have seen mac help me with babble yesterday. it was a sight to behold.
2:54 pm
macuser

lol, it was FUN is what it was :)
2:54 pm
helenkeller

is it hard, or easy masquerading as hard?
2:54 pm
hurshy

you were very good at it... reminded me of me... :)
2:54 pm
hurshy

oh this puzzle? *makes an easy noise*
2:54 pm
macuser

wow! now that
2:54 pm
helenkeller

what??? you, hurshy, have trouble with babble??? i do not believe it, lol
2:54 pm
macuser

's a compliment if i ever heard one! sorry about the split message
2:55 pm
hurshy

helen - i was going listless, as i have been wont to do of late, and mac was helping by guessing what words i was missing at the end
2:55 pm
hurshy

come on, mac, you are supposed to reprimand me for my arrogance.
2:56 pm
macuser

i dont' view it as arrogance - just the truth
2:56 pm
macuser

sorry about my poor typing today - operating on 2 hours sleep here
2:57 pm
hurshy

ugh, why so little mac?
2:57 pm
macuser

been having sleep problems of late - quite aggravating
2:57 pm
hurshy

i sympathize... i'm on klonopin for that.
2:57 pm
helenkeller

2 hours is a nice amount of time for a nap
2:58 pm
helenkeller

hursh - does klonopin knock you out, or just make you drowsy?
2:58 pm
macuser

i'm thinking maybe a hammer to the head, myself ;)
2:58 pm
helenkeller

LOL
2:58 pm
hurshy

neither, helen - it's an anti-anxiety drug, really.
2:58 pm
hurshy

mac - awful headache when you wake up.
2:58 pm
helenkeller

ahhhhh - so does it make you more serene then?
2:59 pm
hurshy

between the klonopin and the zoloft, i am becoming quite the druggie
2:59 pm
macuser

sometimes - i have a lot on my mind so it interfers with my sleep
2:59 pm
helenkeller

& what is zoloft for?
2:59 pm
hurshy

depression
2:59 pm
hurshy

mac - klonopin is for just that kind of thing... the racing mind problem.
2:59 pm
macuser

it a long story :/
2:59 pm
macuser

*it's
3:00 pm
macuser

i don't have health insurance
3:00 pm
hurshy

oh...
3:00 pm
macuser

can't afford to go to the doctor
3:00 pm
hurshy

that's terrible, mac!
3:00 pm
macuser

i'll get over it - i always do :)
3:01 pm
helenkeller

i take welbutrin (as i light up another cigarette!) & don't notice too much of a difference in my outlook on life :(
3:01 pm
hurshy

well, i can tell you other things that help... proper nutrition, exercise...
3:01 pm
helenkeller

insurance is becoming less & less reliable & more & more expensive - i strongly believe anyone who makes a profit on healthcare ought to be shot - seriously!
3:01 pm
macuser

i know... and i'm failing miserably in both areas
3:01 pm
hurshy

also, mac, there are some mental exercises you can do... like picturing a place you feel safe, in great detail... it helps relax you.
3:02 pm
hurshy

i use my grandmother's house.
3:02 pm
macuser

that's a good idea, hurshy :)
3:02 pm
hurshy

you can also tense up each muscle group one at a time, and then relax it.
3:03 pm
hurshy

concentrate on your breathing, too.
3:03 pm
helenkeller

along tht line hursh - something that's helped me is to clench muscle groups starting at my feet & working my way up
3:03 pm
hurshy

exactly, helen.
3:03 pm
helenkeller

ah - i see you have covered that :)
3:03 pm
macuser

hmm, never had heard of that - will give it a try
3:03 pm
hurshy

also, you can try repeating a calming word or phrase. i find the word "elephant" very calming for some reason. most people use something more normal.
3:04 pm
macuser

i had a really bad accident about a year ago and have never really fully recovered
3:04 pm
helenkeller

hold each for a count of ten (or 5, at first) then let go slowly & move up
3:04 pm
hurshy

oh, i'm sorry to hear that mac!
3:04 pm
macuser

aww, i love elephants :)
3:05 pm
hurshy

the other thing i have done to help fall asleep recently is what they do when you're going under general anesthesia - count backwards from 100. i generally fall asleep pretty well doing that.
3:05 pm
helenkeller

hurshy - you sure are a unique individual - elephant, calming, hmmmm, i don't quite see that, but if it works for you . . .
3:06 pm
hurshy

well partly it's the sound of the word, helen. but also... picture them plodding slowly across the plains, trunk-in-tail...
3:06 pm
macuser

hurshy - waht was so fun about yesterday was trying to figure out which words you wouldn't have - i knew they'd have to be fairly obscure
3:06 pm
macuser

*what
3:06 pm
hurshy

i know, i love it when atalante lets me guess what she is missing
3:08 pm
hurshy

helen - i started zoloft only a few weeks ago - i think it's helping a little but it's hard to tell... we'll see i guess... right now i'm on the lowest dose... so i could go higher
3:08 pm
hurshy

ah, here's my bear!
3:09 pm
helenkeller

i'm thinking about asking my doc for something else right now
3:09 pm
helenkeller

your bear?
3:09 pm
hurshy

the cat in my pic, he just jumped on my lap
3:09 pm
helenkeller

lol - sweet
3:09 pm
macuser

hurshy - it usually takes abuot 3 weeks to get it into your system
3:09 pm
hurshy

i call him a bear because he is so fierce and ferocious, striking terror into the hearts of all who see him (NOT)
3:10 pm
hurshy

yeah, that is what they told me mac
3:10 pm
helenkeller

lol - looks like a real sweetheart
3:10 pm
hurshy

i also call him a bunny bc he is so funny
3:11 pm
hurshy

he's a bunny-bear
3:11 pm
hurshy

sometimes a bunny-bear needs his mama-bear
3:11 pm
macuser

he's adorable
3:11 pm
helenkeller

awwww
3:11 pm
helenkeller

:))
3:11 pm
hurshy

:)
3:11 pm
hurshy

he's also a sheep and a monkey
3:11 pm
hurshy

he is a very multi-faceted creature
3:13 pm
macuser

the orange tabby i had was part mountain goat... i'm convinced of it - climbed places none of my other cats ever dared to venture
3:13 pm
helenkeller

ummmmm, so zoloft & klonopin & maybe something else??? lol
3:13 pm
hurshy

lol...
3:13 pm
artlady

afternoon, all.. ;-)
3:13 pm
hurshy

there's a reason for all of it
3:13 pm
macuser

Hi artlady! :)
3:13 pm
hurshy

monkey bc he's mischievous, sheep bc he lets you carry him the way a shepherd does a lamb
3:13 pm
hurshy

hi artlady!!
3:14 pm
hurshy

however, i do not deny that i am weird.
3:15 pm
macuser

weird is good - makes life interesting :)
3:15 pm
yul

bye
3:15 pm
artlady

Weird is highly under-appreciated!
3:16 pm
hurshy

lol... bye yul...
3:16 pm
hurshy

(did we say something?)
3:16 pm
yul

no, i just timing myself
3:17 pm
hurshy

oh, phew
3:18 pm
helenkeller

sorry went to make a cup of tea - there's no denying it,hursh, you def are verrrry interesting!
3:18 pm
hurshy

i sing him a little song... "bunny bunny bear cat, a fur-not-hair cat"
3:18 pm
hurshy

because fur is so much nicer than hair
3:19 pm
helenkeller

ok, now excusing myself from conversation to work on puzzle for a bit before guilt overwhelms me - so much else i need to be doing . . .
3:19 pm
hurshy

go to it helen!
3:20 pm
helenkeller

i'll be keeping an eye on you guys ;)
3:20 pm
artlady

Yes...and I'm still at work..gasp!
3:20 pm
hurshy

hey the other day i managed to find my last babble word while teaching my calculus class.... whatever works
3:20 pm
artlady

Hurshy, how's the babble today? I can't really do them on weekdays often.. but I always find time for Sudoku!
3:20 pm
hurshy

babble is 114... not bad
3:21 pm
yul

i started 3 times so pay attantion to this one.
3:21 pm
artlady

My classes are over. Just have to go home and visit with my mom who just arrived...
3:21 pm
artlady

thanks for the help, yul. I had to start over on an easy one the other day. It doesn't pay to get careless!
3:21 pm
hurshy

"she's tricky"
3:23 pm
yul

i could not see where i was going wrong, evrything was practicly the same till the very end.
3:23 pm
hurshy

(i only said that bc yul's comment reminded me of michael's to jane about mary poppins... "we'd better keep an eye on this one, she's tricky")
3:23 pm
artlady

tricky and weird...?
3:23 pm
hurshy

i did not think this sudoku was at all troublesome
3:24 pm
hurshy

but then i don't think any of them are unless you have to use "forcing chains"... aka guess.
3:24 pm
artlady

Yes, but hurshy, you teach calculus...numbers are your friends!
3:24 pm
yul

thrue
3:24 pm
hurshy

logic is the name of this game!
3:25 pm
macuser

or you're working it with bloodshot eyes and sleep deprivation ;)
3:25 pm
hurshy

well yes... i have repeatedly said that sudoku should only be done with a clear head
3:25 pm
artlady

catnaps don't help???
3:26 pm
macuser

i am able to nap occasionally
3:26 pm
hurshy

i will sing you another cat song to cheer you up
3:26 pm
hurshy

"let me go meoooow, like a kitten in the sun... let me go meooow, cute paws, i know you're the one"
3:27 pm
artlady

too bad there's no sound.
3:27 pm
artlady

maybe it's a good thing??
3:27 pm
hurshy

you don't know blister in the sun?
3:27 pm
macuser

aww, how sweet - I was afraid you were going to sing Phoeve's 'smelly cat' from Friends ;)
3:27 pm
artlady

Yikes!
3:27 pm
hurshy

lol
3:27 pm
macuser

*phoeve's
3:28 pm
hurshy

LOL
3:28 pm
macuser

darn! PHOEBE'S
3:28 pm
hurshy

ah well, artlady, it is a song that was popular when i was in high school
3:28 pm
artlady

Yes, I know. Just trying humor...obviously not making thru the ether...
3:28 pm
hurshy

not a very NICE song, unless you give it cat lyrics
3:29 pm
hurshy

oh good, so you can hear it in your head then :)
3:29 pm
hurshy

it's not you artlady, it's me... i'm thick
3:29 pm
artlady

Well, it's better than the Loony Tunes theme that was running thru my head this a.m.
3:29 pm
artlady

I was burning copies of a student powerpoint and that was their theme...aaacckk!
3:29 pm
hurshy

lol
3:30 pm
hurshy

how about this, this is better...
3:30 pm
hurshy

cute and pettable, that's what you are
3:30 pm
macuser

i still have "These Boots are Made for Walkin'" going through my head :/
3:30 pm
hurshy

cute and gettable, though near or far
3:30 pm
hurshy

that's what mart-ling, it's incredible
3:30 pm
hurshy

that a cat so cute and edible
3:30 pm
hurshy

thinks that i am a good mama for him
3:31 pm
artlady

Ok, it's beeennn luverly, but I have to go visit mutti before she heads off to Switzerland tomorrow. Ciao! (which rhymes with....miao!)
3:31 pm
hurshy

oh dear, i weirded you out
3:32 pm
hurshy

:)
3:32 pm
macuser

bye artlady :)
3:32 pm
hurshy

do other people not write song parodies about their pets?
3:32 pm
macuser

no, just you hurshy ;)
3:33 pm
hurshy

sigh...i thought it just came naturally when you had a cute animal around you all the time
3:34 pm
scribble

i would write a parodie about my cat, but im not that creative. :(
3:34 pm
hurshy

once when they had ringworm and had to be quarantined, i did one to the tune of the marine corps song
3:34 pm
hurshy

from the ears of marty-zuma to the tail of cinder b
3:34 pm
mirrin

i have an orange cat Tomato who likes to sit in the bathroom and stare at the pipes going behind the tub. we've been singing "O Tomato, the pipes, the pipes are calling" to the Danny Boy theme. it's fun
3:34 pm
hurshy

we will fight our kittens' battles against ringworm, tick and flea
3:34 pm
hurshy

first to fight for fur and skin cells and to keep our kittens clean
3:35 pm
hurshy

we are proud to claim the title of the Enforcers of Quarantine
3:35 pm
hurshy

good one mirrin!!!
3:35 pm
hurshy

thanks for making me feel like i'm not such a wacko!
3:35 pm
helenkeller

just glanced over here & i gotta say - hursh - you are a riot!
3:35 pm
mirrin

=D
3:35 pm
mirrin

We have four cats and three of them have theme songs like that.
3:36 pm
hurshy

see, it's not just me!!!
3:36 pm
macuser

there ya go hurshy... a comrade in song :)
3:36 pm
hurshy

all my cats have their own songs, as well as the general cat ones.
3:36 pm
hurshy

helen - *blush*
3:37 pm
helenkeller

nah - take a bow instead
3:37 pm
hurshy

*bows obediently*
3:37 pm
helenkeller

lol
3:37 pm
hurshy

mirrin - what are your other songs?
3:37 pm
mirrin

Rose got named after a song I used to sing to her when she was a tiny kitten. So hers isn't a very good theme song but she knows the tune.(it's irish.) "rose, rose, rose, will I ever see thee wed?..."
3:38 pm
mirrin

Then there is Mahler (like the composer). He gets "Mahler Mahler Man" like "Macho Man" and "Mahler Man!" to the Mighty Mouse theme song
3:38 pm
Playwoman

hurshy-sounds like you are a wonderful cat parent
3:39 pm
mirrin

he also gets "Papa loves Mahler, Mama loves Mahler" which is this song I heard in a movie, that is actually about mambo dancing.
3:39 pm
mirrin

poor Nermal has no theme song. nothing has struck us for her yet.
3:39 pm
hurshy

ty playwoman :)
3:40 pm
hurshy

nermal... let me think
3:41 pm
suchness

jimmy is the best
3:41 pm
hurshy

what color is nermal?
3:41 pm
mirrin

she is grey and very chubby. with green eyes. she is also getting adopted in a couple weeks, though.
3:42 pm
hurshy

oh, foster cat?
3:42 pm
suchness

i won't be ignored
3:42 pm
hurshy

sorry suchness...is jimmy your cat?
3:42 pm
suchness

katie draws the best snowboarders
3:42 pm
suchness

yeah he is
3:42 pm
suchness

he's amazing
3:43 pm
suchness

carry on
3:43 pm
mirrin

enhh. sort of. I picked her up over a year ago because someone (an animal) had beaten her up and I was going to foster her just til she got a home. then we found out she was pregnant. hence Mahler and Rose. We're trying to get down to two cats by the summer because we have to move.
3:44 pm
macuser

how nice of you mirrin. all my cats have been rescue cats
3:45 pm
mirrin

yeah. tomato was born in my mom's garage. so we've gotten all of our cats off the street.
3:45 pm
hurshy

nermal have any quirks?
3:46 pm
mirrin

they don't have any trouble being housetrained, though I guess Nermal's the only one who lived out side very long. (She was about a year old when we found her.)
3:47 pm
mirrin

Nermal is a very good mommy to Mahler and Rose. She likes to beat up on Tomato. She whines when people pick her up. Her meow is brrrrrrrrrp! (like you're rolling your r.)
3:47 pm
macuser

i had a cat that made that same sound
3:48 pm
mirrin

i'd never heard it before her! That's where I learned to roll my r's
3:53 pm
mirrin

i'm stuck on this puzzle. =(
3:54 pm
scribble

me too
3:54 pm
David Mitchell

I am too
3:54 pm
David Mitchell

Of course, just as I say that, I finally see something..
3:55 pm
scribble

what? where?
3:55 pm
scribble

just kidding....
3:55 pm
David Mitchell

Naked pair in column three..
3:55 pm
Ottersby

whats a Naked Pair?
3:56 pm
hurshy

adam and eve (lol)
3:56 pm
David Mitchell

Haha, hurshy!
3:56 pm
scribble

*smacking myself in face* why didnt i see that? thank you...
3:56 pm
David Mitchell

I dunno, maybe I shouldn't have said anything
3:57 pm
hurshy

ok...it's not much on short notice, but here is one to the tune of "o sole mio" aka "it's now or never": the meow of nermal...is most unique...and it may help you...spanish to speak...but soooooon...she will be gone ...it's now or never... to hear her fawn
3:57 pm
Playwoman

can anyone explain "naked pair"?
3:57 pm
scribble

uh...you didnt say anything...;)
3:57 pm
hurshy

certainly, playwoman
3:57 pm
David Mitchell

A naked pair is two cells with only the possibilities (x,y) in a row/column/box.
3:58 pm
hurshy

if you have 2 cells which contain the same 2 numbers in a given row, column, or group of 9, then those numbers MUST go there because nothing else can. thus they CANNOT go elsewhere in that row, column, or group and can be eliminated as possibilities elsewhere.
3:58 pm
mirrin

hmm. i must be missing something before that. I've been looking for those. it's probably because I have no sixes! heh.
3:58 pm
hurshy

did you like the song, mirrin?
3:58 pm
Playwoman

Thanks. David. I call that "twins."
3:59 pm
David Mitchell

... and what hurshy said.
3:59 pm
David Mitchell

Oh, sorry to confuse with a different term.
3:59 pm
mirrin

sorry I missed it, had to scroll down! I actually don't know that tune, but the words totally make sense. =D
3:59 pm
Playwoman

Thanks, Hurshy.
4:00 pm
mirrin

thanks though!
4:01 pm
hurshy

elvis sang "it's now or never"... you can probably listen to it online easily enough... try last.fm
4:01 pm
mirrin

i don't get sound on my computer at work. I'll check it out later on at home!
4:01 pm
mirrin

=)
4:01 pm
David Mitchell

So you use last.fm too, hurshy :)
4:02 pm
hurshy

i just tried it the other day at lola's suggestion... but it's all jumpy most of the time bc so many students are on the server
4:02 pm
David Mitchell

Oh, bleh.
4:02 pm
hurshy

it works great when they're all at lunch though.
4:02 pm
David Mitchell

Heh.
4:03 pm
David Mitchell

I use it almost entirely to keep my statistics, but I do listen occasionally.
4:03 pm
hurshy

keep what statistics?
4:06 pm
David Mitchell

It can track what you listen to (if you use a plug-in with your music player software) and make personal listening charts
4:06 pm
hurshy

oh the scrobbler
4:06 pm
David Mitchell

Yeah
4:07 pm
David Mitchell

I've been tracking my listening since September
4:07 pm
hurshy

can anyone tell me why Oreo has never made a commercial with the wicked witch of the west's army... "o-re-o, o-RE-o"
4:08 pm
mirrin

no, i think it's a good idea
4:08 pm
hurshy

and so obvious.
4:09 pm
helenkeller

finally - whew
4:09 pm
helenkeller

so , can anyone tell me why the stats started prior to april 1 ? was it an april fool's joke?
4:10 pm
Rachel

the stats started before april 1st, they just weren't displayed until then
4:10 pm
Rachel

probably so that people could get some point accumulated before it actually started scoring people
4:11 pm
NaTaShAMuCh

HoW HaRd Is ToDaYs PuZzLe???
4:12 pm
scribble

hey tasha!! i think its a little easier than yesterdays.
4:12 pm
NaTaShAMuCh

okay thanks hey scribble did you finish yesterday's????
4:12 pm
helenkeller

right rachel - but the log said that the stats would start 4-1, not prior, i'm just wondering why the change?
4:13 pm
scribble

no i messed up and had to start over, but then it got late. but i will finish this one.
4:13 pm
helenkeller

oh, i see, maybe i misinterpreted
4:13 pm
helenkeller

k, thx everyone have a great day !
4:14 pm
NaTaShAMuCh

cool i will try to finish this one i will be home alone for a while so i will have plenty of time unless u get caught up talking on the phone lol
4:14 pm
scribble

im stuck right now.
4:15 pm
NaTaShAMuCh

me too lol
4:15 pm
David Mitchell

Yay, got it.
4:15 pm
scribble

yay david!!
4:15 pm
NaTaShAMuCh

David you are so lucky
4:16 pm
scribble

ooh i had a breakthrough! yes!!
4:16 pm
David Mitchell

I got stuck for a long while, then suddenly saw what I'd been missing.
4:16 pm
NaTaShAMuCh

i just had to start over GOSH this sucks
4:17 pm
NaTaShAMuCh

yay scribble i want a break through lol
4:18 pm
scribble

dont guess if you look hard enough you will see it. guessing will most likely mess you up.
4:18 pm
scribble

let me no if you need help.
4:18 pm
NaTaShAMuCh

okay i will
4:20 pm
scribble

i dont have a life outsside of sudoku or babble. i need therapy or something.
4:20 pm
scribble

*outside*
4:21 pm
NaTaShAMuCh

lol i am like addicted to myspace and sudoku its so hard to go with out the computer for like a hour
4:22 pm
scribble

we did a presentation on iran in social studies and we did really good. even though i had stupid people in my group.(mostly)
4:23 pm
NaTaShAMuCh

thats cool i hate school i had school for the first time in a week today i love spring break
4:23 pm
scribble

we had spring break like a month ago.
4:24 pm
llodoran

I'm pretty much a sudoku master
4:24 pm
scribble

then help us small people!!!
4:24 pm
NaTaShAMuCh

i know i need so much help its not funny lol
4:25 pm
scribble

then why are you laughing?
4:25 pm
NaTaShAMuCh

i dont know lol
4:25 pm
scribble

lol
4:27 pm
scribble

do you have any of the 2's?
4:28 pm
NaTaShAMuCh

um yeah do you want any
4:29 pm
scribble

im still lookin for now but ill probly ask again later
4:29 pm
NaTaShAMuCh

okay
4:31 pm
scribble

yay i got a 4.
4:43 pm
scribble

wow im almost done!
4:45 pm
mirrin

i am definitely missing something. i dont get it. it's not usually this hard
4:48 pm
scribble

look closely at the fours.......
4:51 pm
mirrin

ooh. just found a three.
4:51 pm
scribble

yay mirrin!
4:52 pm
mirrin

yeah. it was the three's i was screwed up on.
4:52 pm
scribble

whoa i just found a three too. was it the one in the middle box?
4:52 pm
mirrin

yeah, that's the one
4:53 pm
scribble

cool! same one here. one box closer to the end...
4:54 pm
scribble

dang this is gettin easier by ths second!
4:56 pm
scribble

spoke too soon. stupid twos.
4:59 pm
tginsberg

A breakthrough! Finally!
5:00 pm
scribble

woot for you!
5:04 pm
scribble

im stuck on the sixes, twos, and ones.
5:11 pm
stormgren

Did anyone else think this was more of a medium than a hard? :)
5:11 pm
tweaqslug

NOPE
5:12 pm
stormgren

hey, I'm not complaining, means it's worth one more point!
5:12 pm
andre

does anyone know how I can go back to today's puzzle once I have finished it?
5:12 pm
Stef

log in as a different person
5:13 pm
andre

thanks
5:20 pm
hokie carla

maybe it's the benedryl talking, but I think this one is harder than usual. my usual logi methods aren't working at all.
5:21 pm
hokie carla

logic
5:25 pm
cherub325

realllly hard......
5:35 pm
cherub325

a good luck guess... anyway, done~
5:43 pm
Nasher

good god.. i dunno what i was doing but i kept messing this one up.. finally got it.
6:18 pm
EasternBlue

amazing how fast it can go when you eliminate the right numbers for a box...I had an '8' as an option in 1 box that was messing with the whole grid...as soon as I saw that - the whole thing fell into place!! : )
6:19 pm
EasternBlue

well...off to see what Babble is like - good luck to those still here!!
7:05 pm
scribble

does anyone know where the 1 goes in the bottom right hand box? i normally wouldnt ask but ive been stuck for 3 hours.
7:09 pm
scribble

please?
7:09 pm
macuser

I just finished it so I can't see the puzzle anymore, but if memory serves me correctly, it goes in the middle square... I think
7:09 pm
scribble

thank you so much. i swear i cant figure it out.
7:10 pm
macuser

I hope I'm right - I might have short-term memory loss ;)
7:58 pm
scribble

dang it i had to start over cause i got the 4's screwed up.
8:11 pm
scribble

if you dont finish the puzzle, is there a way to see the answer after it closes?
8:11 pm
mandi

archives
8:11 pm
scribble

thanks
8:12 pm
mandi

sure
8:12 pm
scribble

idk why i didnt think to look there *duh*
8:18 pm
mandi

scribble, are you still anti green
8:18 pm
mandi

?
8:27 pm
mandi

Yeah! I solved it.. fairly easily too. Good luck everybody!
8:28 pm
kadee

congratulations Mandi! I'm still trying to figure out these naked triples. Anyone want to share a tip?
8:30 pm
kadee

I have a row with [126], [12469], [12368], [12346], [269], [2689], [689]. Any clues?
8:36 pm
tigger1980

hello anyone from maryland here?
8:36 pm
kadee

lived there 15 years ago
8:37 pm
kadee

where do you live tigger
8:37 pm
kadee

?
8:37 pm
scribble

yes i am anti green. it confuses me. there are already enough #'s without putting in colored ones too.
8:37 pm
tigger1980

im from maryland in the usa
8:37 pm
kadee

I meant where in Maryland?
8:40 pm
dinoshadow

Does anyone have anything good to trade for a screaming baby that doesn't want to go to sleep? I only want to trade her til she stops crying ;)
8:40 pm
tigger1980

garrett county
8:40 pm
scribble

if you will do my math homework
8:43 pm
blueskies29

before we talk trade...just screaming or colic? whole new barter system on that one!! lol
8:43 pm
scribble

what is colic?
8:46 pm
scribble

>
8:46 pm
scribble

oops i meant to put *?*
8:48 pm
guerro

you could probably get a dime bag of crack for that baby downtown
8:48 pm
shortstop

very nice
8:48 pm
scribble

hello? where did everybody go?
Hey if you hold shift when you press enter
you
can
skip
lines
8:48 pm
blueskies29

scribble...colic pretty much translates into a baby that dries non-stop for hours on end..believed to be stomach problems
8:49 pm
blueskies29

oops...*cries*
8:49 pm
scribble

ok thanks. nevermind ill do my homework and you can keep the colic baby
8:50 pm
blueskies29

soory dinoshadow.....although guerro's idea is...unique! :)
8:51 pm
tigger1980

all most ever baby has colic i knho both mine did
8:53 pm
scribble

that sounds painful
8:54 pm
tigger1980

twins they had it at the same time
8:54 pm
scribble

do any of you know where the 8 goes in the bottom middle box? please?
8:54 pm
blueskies29

oh you poor thing..and you kept your sanity how???
8:55 pm
shortstop

scribble - set a checkpoint and try it somewhere - if you get stuck then revert and do the other spot
8:55 pm
tigger1980

my husband took one while i took the other one for a car ride
8:55 pm
tigger1980

my husband took one while i took the other one for a car ride
8:59 pm
blueskies29

well break's over...back to work..good luck all! nice to meet you...
9:05 pm
tigger1980

im new to this what happens when you get if figured out
9:07 pm
shortstop

it says:
9:07 pm
shortstop

CONGRATULATIONS!
You have completed today's puzzle
3 points have been added to your Ranking
9:07 pm
tigger1980

k
9:14 pm
Jiraya

3 points???
9:14 pm
Jiraya

i thought hard was 5
9:14 pm
shortstop

I think Expert is 5
9:14 pm
shortstop

this one is 3
9:15 pm
shortstop

I am not sure I have ever finished an expert
9:17 pm
hokie carla

jiraya - if you look at "how to play" he has changed the pts. since he started. There used to be 10 pointers, but not anymore.
9:20 pm
dinoshadow

Oh, she wasn't a colicky baby - just screaming. It's bedtime and she doens't want to go to sleep.. Thankfully, she's a 95% good baby - never had colic
9:21 pm
dinoshadow

And scribble, I'm a HS math teacher, I will GLADLY do your math homework in exchange ;)
9:22 pm
nitrox

Okay, that wasn't terribly satisfying... had to guess to solve this one, I hate doing that
9:22 pm
dinoshadow

I think I am at a point where I hav eto guess, too. I hate it, but I don't see the logic behind it
9:23 pm
hokie carla

I can't even get to a guessing point on this one.
9:24 pm
dinoshadow

I have a row with 4 open boex that I have narrowed down to two pairs of two. That's where I am starting my guess.
9:24 pm
nitrox

and I had to use the checkpoint, because I guessed wrong the first time
9:24 pm
dinoshadow

er 4 open boxes. That crying baby is getting to me ;)
9:24 pm
almostaghost

this one is tough
9:24 pm
almostaghost

oof
9:24 pm
nitrox

dino, same... I had a row with a 5/6 and a 3/9... guessed on the 3/9 ad everything flowed from that
9:34 pm
evanadine

i think i finished this one faster than any puzzle yet...but im also really, really tired...it seems most difficult things are easier when im exhausted!
9:35 pm
Twinkie

ok, finished. but i had to guess on one of the numbers. good luck everyone, and good night!
9:36 pm
almostaghost

am i the only who'd rather not solve it than guess?
9:37 pm
tigger1980

i get almost done a run into a snag and have to start ove from my save spot
9:57 pm
trogdor719

gah how can u people get any??? its soooooooo hard
9:57 pm
trogdor719

but ten again tis my first time ; D
9:58 pm
dinoshadow

woo hoo!! !Only had to make one guess
9:59 pm
ryu

Is it possible to do without guessing at all?
9:59 pm
dinoshadow

I don' tknow. I'd like to think so and that I just don't have enough experience yet, but I honestly don't know. It's like playing chess, I guess. Gotta think in advance
10:00 pm
dinoshadow

trogdor, did you read the help. SHIFT and the mouse will let you pick numbers you think it is and put them in the box. You don't have to do it all in your head
10:00 pm
dinoshadow

tigger, did you get it?
10:00 pm
jaka

Just finished, no guessing for me
10:00 pm
trogdor719

i kno how to so it i am just bad but thx anyway
10:01 pm
ryu

Good to know it can be done without guessing.
10:01 pm
trogdor719

do*
10:01 pm
Limer

Nailed That Puppy!
10:01 pm
Limer

Rank me, baby!
10:01 pm
dinoshadow

Once I can sit and think about it (without kiddo screaming) it is pretty easy.
10:13 pm
torgone

Rats! I'm completely stuck. What am I not seeing??
10:18 pm
ryu

I'm stuck too. been staring for a while.
10:19 pm
trogdor719

grrr this is so agrivating
10:20 pm
ryu

I'm only putting down green numbers if they are 50/50 but I'm still stuck....
10:22 pm
bstadil

Remember it is not "Guessing" if you try a 50/50 number and can see this lead to inconsistency a few moves ahead. This is the case here
10:23 pm
ryu

Not guessing. Just putting down green numbers only if there are two possible locations. i.e. 50/50. When I eliminate one of the possibilities down the road.
10:24 pm
ryu

I know it must be the other one then.
10:24 pm
bstadil

exactly
10:25 pm
ryu

But I haven't gotten to that yet...
10:25 pm
bstadil

What do you mean Yet. If you can't see the problem in a few moves try the other option
10:26 pm
ryu

So you mean actually play it?
10:27 pm
bstadil

Yes kind of. I try to do it in my head rather than fill out the numbers. If I can't keep it in my head it is probably too elaborate to persue as a tactic
10:34 pm
hurkle

i did this early this morning, but this is the first puzzle ive ever done where i had to select from a 2-possibility cell and follow it to a logical inconsistency...
10:34 pm
trogdor719

gj
10:35 pm
hurkle

it seems sort of... i don't know... like cheating :(
10:35 pm
trogdor719

lol
10:35 pm
ryu

Not much time left...
10:35 pm
hurkle

I'm new to these but I thought they could all be solved by simple observation and deduction
10:35 pm
trogdor719

its not cheating its creative thinking
10:35 pm
hurkle

But this one couldn't, at least not for me
10:35 pm
hurkle

and thanks - i feel better :)
10:38 pm
bstadil

In a way you could argue that writing down all these little numbers in red and green is more akin to "cheating"
10:39 pm
trogdor719

red???
10:40 pm
bstadil

Yes numbers that can't be there rather than numbers that can
10:40 pm
bstadil

Look at How to Play I don't use this myself
10:47 pm
trogdor719

o i thought u ment something else
10:49 pm
trogdor719

does any1 kno about how much time is left til the next one?
10:50 pm
bstadil

yes 1 hour and 11 min Look at the time on your comment
10:50 pm
spacedog

I've been staring at this off and on all day. Restarted twice. Finally had to start guessing on the 50/50's and just got lucky.
10:51 pm
trogdor719

thx
11:02 pm
ryu

Done, but oh I had to guess.
11:03 pm
trogdor719

lucky
11:05 pm
trogdor719

nooooo soooooo close
11:05 pm
trogdor719

darn u sleep
11:27 pm
pthomp

done - that was ugly - heading to bed
11:30 pm
hokie carla

i agree. that was ugly & now I can go to bed.
11:51 pm
Tomara650

finished it with 10 minutes to go
11:57 pm
raggedyandy3478

sleep? oh cmon, just stay up 3 more mine and start the next one
11:58 pm
Krys10

waiting waiting waiting
11:59 pm
raggedyandy3478

thats right
11:59 pm
raggedyandy3478

1 min
11:59 pm
Krys10

phooey