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Difficulty: Easy Tuesday, November 14, 2006

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CHAT LOG for Tuesday, November 14, 2006

12:06 am
raggedyandy3478

done
12:15 am
yul

now
12:17 am
Lucretius

hiya!
12:26 am
mikehell

done
12:31 am
Lucretius

bip-a-dip
12:33 am
WHB

Done
12:34 am
yul

done
3:00 am
bzikofski

easy enough
3:30 am
bzikofski

anyone trying july 28 ? it's easy but i can't even get the half of it!
4:01 am
bzikofski

ufff done.. with 1 guess
4:16 am
bzikofski

now july 31 - expert indeed
5:01 am
peternl

hi all
5:04 am
peternl

very easy
6:12 am
Moozey

doing it in three minutes Peter is just plain showing off LOL
7:36 am
zemoxian

hello
7:53 am
franebrown

I think the 2 horizontal lines between the 3 sets of 9's should be more defined (thicker) as the 2 verticals. Do I make myself understood?
7:56 am
bugnot

why?
8:06 am
lara226

I agree about the lines I am having a hard time sometimes telling where whe blocks change..
8:06 am
bugnot

using firefox?
8:06 am
mandi

I have the same prob with ie, I have to use firefox
8:07 am
bzikofski

mandi: the thing is that you SHOULD be using firefox :)
8:07 am
mandi

I know
8:07 am
mandi

old habits die hard
8:07 am
franebrown

I agree lara. How do you (what is) use firefox????
8:07 am
bzikofski

not only for playing ironsudoku, but also for everyday use. it's safer, better, faster, .. (endless list) .. ;)
8:08 am
moedog

i'm using firefox, and the dividing lines look fine for me
8:09 am
bzikofski

franebrown: click the button below the chatbox. download it and use instead of Internet Explorer. you may need to adapt to it for a few days, but after you will, you won't be ever coming back to IE :)
8:09 am
ypsigirl

hey lara!
8:09 am
lara226

hey
8:10 am
ypsigirl

how goes it
8:10 am
lara226

Ok doing pretty well today on the puzzle. waiting for the directv guy to come
8:11 am
ypsigirl

woo hooo dvr baby
8:11 am
lara226

I am very excited
8:12 am
bzikofski

lara226: you're excited because the guy from directv comes ? ;) nice!
8:12 am
franebrown

But bzikofski, could I return to IE? How? I think lara & yps out to IM elsewhere and not in Iron S...
8:12 am
franebrown

ought to
8:13 am
ypsigirl

bye bye cry baby
8:13 am
lara226

sorry to bother you you will not hear from me again
8:13 am
moedog

IE will still be installed if you must use it, but you should not be using IE as your default browser.
8:13 am
bzikofski

franebrown: just download it from the website the Firefox button points to. start using it. you will not need to come back to IE never again
8:14 am
bzikofski

franebrown: you may need to install plugins for the pages to display correctly, for example the Flash plugin. but firefox will display you all necessary information, you won't get lost.
8:14 am
lara226

Thought this was a friendly group but guess not
8:15 am
bzikofski

lara226: i thought this was a group with a sense of humor, but guess not.
8:16 am
lara226

Ok I am not the one who told someone to go im someplace else after they said 3 sentances to someone
8:16 am
ypsigirl

the chatterbox should only be used for technical discussions of IE and firefox and iron sudoku, period. :)
8:16 am
franebrown

amen! thank you all
8:16 am
ypsigirl

NOT
8:17 am
bzikofski

lara226: well i don't thing what you're referring to, but i guess it doesnt relate to me in any way. chill out! :)
8:18 am
ypsigirl

frane---why dont you take your boring how do I download firefox discussion to IM, along with your pathetic sense of humor?
8:18 am
lara226

8:12 amfranebrown

But bzikofski, could I return to IE? How? I think lara & yps out to IM elsewhere and not in Iron S...
8:19 am
bzikofski

lara226: to be honest, i don't quite understand that sentence ;)
8:19 am
bzikofski

ufff july 31 done.. one guess needed ;)
8:19 am
ypsigirl

OK I apologize for that, I have turned to the dark side this morning and this is not me at all. I am leaving. Talk to you later, Lara. Sorry bzik
8:20 am
bzikofski

ypsigirl - no prob, i don't feel offended
8:21 am
bzikofski

what's the argument about anyway ? i was just trying to be helpful to one person. let's drop the subject
8:22 am
ypsigirl

it wasn't you bz it was frane
8:22 am
lara226

Sorry to be touchy but when I say hello to a friend and get told to go someplace else to IM it kinda bugs me
8:23 am
bzikofski

that's right i understand
8:41 am
lara226

bye ypsi I am done
8:41 am
ypsigirl

bye.. I got stuck and went over to babble
8:41 am
lara226

going there now
8:42 am
ypsigirl

:) see ya on the flip side
12:55 pm
Minski

Done! Easy! No guessing required!
1:32 pm
franebrown

Congrats Minski on getting out of newbies. I'm 1/2 way,
3:16 pm
drwho

Difficulty score 16. Cross hatching is the only tool you need.
3:24 pm
aki2403

um, do both the solutions come back as good on this one?
3:25 pm
drwho

There is only one solution.
3:27 pm
aki2403

hmmm, maybe my working has gone wrong then, I'll work it through then get back.
3:32 pm
drwho

That happens to me alot.
3:41 pm
aki2403

ah funk, I missed the five in the bottom right, I had 5 as available in the 9th column
3:44 pm
drwho

I don't know how the puzzles are generated on this site, but most likely it is done by computer program, and computer programs are very good at detecting ambiguous puzzles.
3:49 pm
aki2403

indeed, I've tried making them, it's incredibly hard to have one that is not ambiguous.
3:50 pm
helenkeller

go
3:59 pm
helenkeller

done
3:59 pm
aki2403

head+desk
3:59 pm
aki2403

why, why am i finding this so hard?
4:03 pm
drwho

Strategies for generating Sudoku puzzles usually start with a completed puzzle, very easy to generate. Then you subtract everything but the clues, making sure that the clues don't lead to multiple solutions.
4:05 pm
drwho

I think that someone has discovered that if the clues have rotational symetry then you get unique solutions. At least all computer generated puzzles have symetric clues.
4:11 pm
drwho

Or maybe the clues are added in one or 2 at a time (with a particular solution in mind) until a unique solution is achieved.
4:41 pm
aki2403

finally, I kept ignoring where numbers couldn't go :(
4:42 pm
drwho

Persistence pays off.
5:32 pm
rycaut

not too hard - done without any greens and fairly quickly
8:59 pm
Hyde

my head, how she hurts
9:19 pm
eyeman

That you, Brie 413 ?? :)
9:24 pm
Bri413

hey You!!
9:24 pm
eyeman

Yup, me. working on 11/6 puzzle. Small world, eh?
9:25 pm
Bri413

I'm working on 11/02....It's impossible!! It's a very small world!!
9:28 pm
eyeman

got that one already. Keep on plugging. If you need a hint it'll cost you a Wendy's frosty.
9:29 pm
Bri413

lol....I might have to scrounge up for that frosty....I'm just throwing numbers in to see if I can stumble onto something.
9:30 pm
eyeman

if you get discouraged, just do the easy ones first. Altho some "easies" are not too easy.
9:31 pm
eyeman

I'm trying a green 8 in 11/6.
9:33 pm
Bri413

I noticed that. Some "easies" are mislabeled!! But, I did an "expert" in two minutes. I think they mix up they labels on this site
9:34 pm
eyeman

that happens occasionally. It's the luck of the draw, but with some exceptions, the easys are easier than the hards.
9:50 pm
Bri413

I gave up on 11/02
9:50 pm
Bri413

i'm giving 10/01 a shot
9:51 pm
eyeman

clear 11/2 and try another day. Let's see if I got 10/1.
9:52 pm
eyeman

yup
9:56 pm
eyeman

i'm making good progress on 11/6 so far.
9:57 pm
Bri413

I doing pretty well on 10/01
9:58 pm
eyeman

atta girl. no macular degeneration for you!
9:59 pm
Bri413

Nope, just my near sighted notions
9:59 pm
eyeman

my oh my opia.
10:00 pm
eyeman

took me 45 minutes to get home.
10:00 pm
eyeman

2 hours this morning
10:01 pm
Bri413

took me one hour and 25 minutes.....no too shabby.....oh well, could have been worse
10:03 pm
eyeman

so far so good on 11/6. 2 more blocks to go
10:05 pm
eyeman

AARGH!!! Mistake at the end! Back to checkpoint and put the greenie in the right place.
10:07 pm
Bri413

Good luck... I'm loving the green trick!!
10:10 pm
eyeman

i'm off to bed - will look at 11/15 in the morning. Nite, Bri.
10:11 pm
Bri413

Nite Dr A
10:12 pm
eyeman

Don't forget to try the 4/13 puzzle sometime! :)
10:12 pm
Bri413

lol
11:19 pm
Lucretius

i love a certain lauren person
11:19 pm
LNatalieC

ooh which one?
11:21 pm
Lucretius

hmm, she is indescribable, i'll have to go with an understatement and just say she's completely wonderful in every way
11:47 pm
Lucretius

teriyaki, kawasaki
11:47 pm
LNatalieC

tomagotchi?