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Difficulty: Hard Tuesday, October 17, 2006

Not Completed Play This Puzzle

CHAT LOG for Tuesday, October 17, 2006

3:26 am
h

ooph - was stuck with about 20 s;uares unknown and tried a force-guess. it didnt fail until the final-block. thankfully i could undo it - but it was STILL hard... whew...
3:38 am
rjan_de

easy one
3:45 am
h

uh... how? it was easy to start with 7s and there were lots of pairs, but they never forced anything for me...
4:39 am
peternl

hi all
5:14 am
peternl

whew, that was a bit tricky
5:22 am
spreadeagle

Not too bad for a hard, needed greens, but no guessing...
8:21 am
franebrown

I'm out on this one again!
10:46 am
Limer

ha
10:46 am
Limer

Nailed that puppy!
10:46 am
Limer

Rank me, baby!
10:46 am
Limer

LOTS of green, sunshines!
10:46 am
Limer

Nix theme music.
10:59 am
tsianami

go
11:39 am
drwho

Difficulty score = 29. I had to start over about 4 times!
11:40 am
drwho

No guessing needed.
11:50 am
Moozey

no guessing required
12:14 pm
shoupart

yeah, that one was tricky for me!
12:45 pm
hurshy

aw, missed limer
12:49 pm
hurshy

guessing? why would i be hearing this word? this offends my ears. this word should not be mentioned in sudoku chat. it's like how you don't mention bees around someone who was traumatically stung by a horde of them as a child.
12:52 pm
UDbmas

I GUESS you are right...
12:52 pm
hurshy

lalalalalalalalala i can't hear you lalalalalalalala
12:53 pm
UDbmas

can someone loan me a 5?
12:53 pm
hurshy

it's not for drugs is it?
12:54 pm
UDbmas

it will be if I don't find one soon... LOL
12:54 pm
hurshy

it doesn't really matter whether you have any of a certain number... i mean who cares what order you find things in, as long as you find things?
12:54 pm
UDbmas

oh... back to guessing?
12:55 pm
hurshy

WHAT are you TALKING about?
12:57 pm
hurshy

that's not me getting mad by the way, just being confused.
12:58 pm
UDbmas

Didn't think you were mad... I still don't have any 5s on my puzzle...
12:59 pm
hurshy

well, neither do i, but that's ok, they will come eventually. do you like star trek?
1:00 pm
UDbmas

I used to watch it a lot... haven't seen it in a while though
1:00 pm
hurshy

do you remember a next gen episode called "the game" featuring ashley judd as wesley's love interest?
1:01 pm
UDbmas

not sure... I don't know her by name. If I see the episode, I usually know I have seen it... I didn't miss many.
1:03 pm
hurshy

she's pretty, mostly acts in movies... anyway it was the one where they had that game they wore on their heads where you had to get these discs to go into these trumpet-shaped stalks
1:04 pm
UDbmas

hmmm... maybe I didn't see it... what's the main story line?
1:05 pm
hurshy

somebody gives this game to... riker, i think... while he's vacationing on risa... and it's actually a mind control device and he spreads it to everyone on the ship but wesley and robin (ashley judd), with data, save the day.
1:05 pm
hurshy

excellent episode.
1:07 pm
UDbmas

now it sound familiar... one of my favorites was Data getting drunk and falling down in the end-scene. Oh, and any episode where he was Sherlock Holmes. I also liked the Mark Twain episode.
1:07 pm
hurshy

anyway when they teach a new person how to play the game they always say you can't force it, you have to relax and just let it happen. that is like sudoku. except without the mind control. hopefully.
1:08 pm
hurshy

you didn't know i had a point there did you?
1:08 pm
hurshy

:)
1:08 pm
UDbmas

hmmm... I am thinking I need a little mind-control... cause it ain't happening... LOL
1:09 pm
hurshy

no you need a little relaxing
1:09 pm
hurshy

also similar to those magic eye thingys
1:10 pm
UDbmas

how can I relax when I know there are nine %s out there... alone and scared... unable to find their way to their *%^$#@ homes... LOL
1:10 pm
hurshy

but if you stay tense you are less able to help them
1:10 pm
UDbmas

are you stalling, trying to avoid guessing where those 5s go?
1:11 pm
hurshy

not remotely
1:11 pm
hurshy

i am working on it while we chat
1:11 pm
hurshy

and i know i will not need to guess
1:11 pm
UDbmas

yeah... I know... LALALALALALALlalalalalala... lol
1:12 pm
hurshy

ahhh there is the first 5...
1:12 pm
UDbmas

wtg!!
1:12 pm
hurshy

i didn't do anything
1:13 pm
UDbmas

one less orphan to feed...
1:14 pm
hurshy

maybe you should be listening to kokomo, it helps.
1:14 pm
UDbmas

:-)
1:18 pm
hurshy

and done.
1:18 pm
UDbmas

YAY...wtg!
1:19 pm
hurshy

sudoku is also like surfing. you just ride the wave.
1:19 pm
hurshy

sudoku is also like science. you're just discovering what was already there all along.
1:21 pm
hurshy

or like having a cold. you just treat the symptoms until it wroks itself out.
1:22 pm
hurshy

it is NOT like trying to find the perfect analogy for what sudoku is like. that is much harder. i am dissatisfied.
1:22 pm
UDbmas

don't be dissatisfied... just "relax and let it happen"... LOL
1:23 pm
hurshy

giving birth? you don't control it, really, you're just along for the ride.
1:23 pm
UDbmas

ouch...
1:24 pm
hurshy

what i am trying to say is that you don't DO sudoku, you just become one with a sudoku until that sudoku is done and reaches nirvana. it's really a zen thing.
1:25 pm
UDbmas

oh... like the transcendentalist at a hamberger shack?
1:25 pm
torgone

Only you never reach nirvana because there's always another sudoku ..
1:25 pm
hurshy

mmm... i haven't met any transcendentalists at hamburger shacks.
1:26 pm
hurshy

YOU don't reach nirvana, tor, keep up - the SUDOKU reaches nirvana.
1:26 pm
UDbmas

when asked for his order, he said:
1:26 pm
UDbmas

"Make me one with everything"
1:26 pm
hurshy

lol :) i love puns!
1:27 pm
hurshy

people can't reach nirvana, because people are too complicated. but sudokus can reach nirvana.
1:27 pm
UDbmas

cats too
1:28 pm
hurshy

oh, it is also like dorothy, in the wizard of oz. the important truth was there all along, but the good witch wanted her to find it for herself. the sudoku is really done already when you first look at it, but you have to see it for yourself.
1:28 pm
torgone

That's what I meant; the puzzle reaches nirvana while the solver remains in the world doomed to help sudokus reach nirvana ..
1:28 pm
hurshy

doomed? or blessed? it all depends on your point of view.
1:29 pm
UDbmas

I just like finding out I guessed correctly... ;-)
1:29 pm
hurshy

if you RELAX while helping the sudoku to nirvana, it blesses you along the way.
1:29 pm
hurshy

you are as much of an IMP as torgone!
1:29 pm
torgone

Doomed to give birth or blessed to give birth? Or both?
1:30 pm
UDbmas

Doomed or blessed... what kind of anesthetic?
1:30 pm
hurshy

yes, in that case i would be on the doom side of the question.
1:30 pm
hurshy

but they do say that relaxing makes giving birth less painful too.
1:30 pm
hurshy

so you see, i am right when i say to relax. why don't people take me seriously?
1:31 pm
mamabear

only the people that never gave birth say that, hurshy!!!
1:31 pm
mamabear

oh and good day, everyone!
1:32 pm
hurshy

well my neighbor is a midwife and she says that she has seen people have virtually pain-free labor through hypnosis. but you have to prepare the whole pregnancy by not being panicky and not using words like "labor" that make it sound hard. i doubt i could do it myself, but the point is, if you DO it, it WORKS.
1:33 pm
hurshy

anyway the birth analogy was not my favorite. the zen one isn't bad, but i think the original star trek comparison is the best. the trouble is not everyone has seen it.
1:36 pm
mamabear

personally, I had to take myself outside my body to get through it - that worked well. Alot of mind control involved.
1:36 pm
hurshy

icky.
1:37 pm
hurshy

at least sudoku is CLEAN.
1:37 pm
hurshy

sigh. i'm such a gnostic, it's horrible.
1:37 pm
mamabear

wasn't icky... wasn't easy, but can't say it was icky either. End result was worth it, or I wouldn't have repeated the process 3 times!
1:38 pm
torgone

I'm just here for the fun ..
1:38 pm
hurshy

that is something i don't understand, why would anyone, having been through that, DO IT AGAIN!
1:38 pm
hurshy

not that i am questioning your life choices, mamabear dear. i just, you know, don't get it.
1:39 pm
mamabear

Mother's love is hard to explain. But it is a wonderful thing.
1:39 pm
mamabear

hi torg!
1:39 pm
hurshy

might help if i didn't have a horrid relationship with my mother.
1:39 pm
torgone

Heya mb!
1:40 pm
UDbmas

AND there is the aded side of having someone who loves you just for you...and you don't have to be suspicious of it...at least fo a little while.
1:40 pm
mamabear

Mine wasn't great either hurshy, which made my mind up even more that my relationship with my children would be different. And now my daughters are my best friends!
1:41 pm
hurshy

see i have no memory of ever feeling the natural child's affection and love for its mother. i just never experienced that. so... i don't want to become that person in someone else's life.
1:41 pm
mamabear

Everybody is different, hurshy - that's what makes the world go round!
1:42 pm
hurshy

and also, my mom thinks that she isn't close to her mom but that she has great relationships with her 3 daughters - clearly, i disagree with her - so i worry that a mother can think she has this great relationship and be deluded.
1:43 pm
mamabear

Possible, but in my case, I can assure you, there is no dillusion.
1:43 pm
hurshy

oh yes, i didn't mean you
1:43 pm
hurshy

i meant the possibility of me.
1:44 pm
hurshy

anyway, it doesn't matter, there are so many circumstances at this point that would make it a REALLY bad idea for me to have kids. you never know, someday, if certain things work themselves out. but not now.
1:45 pm
mamabear

I wish you well, hurshy - either way!
1:46 pm
hurshy

thank you mamabear :) *hugs* same to you.
1:46 pm
hurshy

i mean not the either way part... lol
1:48 pm
mamabear

OH I know, hurshy..... cuz the either way part is impossible since I am already a mother. The only worse than actually going through labor would be trying to reverse the process!!! That's GOTTA be worse!!! LOL
1:48 pm
hurshy

LOL yes
1:48 pm
mamabear

although little boys...... never mind.
1:49 pm
hurshy

the odds are that i will not have kids, because i think that my life is pretty much irreparably screwed up. but, we can only do the best with what we have. and right now, i have 30 words to find back at babble.
1:49 pm
torgone

You mean I beat you today?
1:50 pm
hurshy

if you are done, yes :)
1:50 pm
hurshy

i spent most of the morning sleeping, tutoring, and playing darts
1:50 pm
mamabear

the grid looked nasty to me, that's why I ended up here - is it cruel?
1:50 pm
hurshy

i think it's usual, mamabear.
1:51 pm
hurshy

i have got my 80% without the list, so
1:51 pm
hurshy

if i have significant trouble with that, it is a cruel grid, and if i get to 90 without breaking a sweat, it's an easy one.
1:52 pm
torgone

It's not too bad ..
1:52 pm
hurshy

are you working on this sudoku, tor? when you're done, maybe you could pop over to babble for a little GWHIM.
1:53 pm
hurshy

golly, i talk too much.
1:53 pm
torgone

I'm about to bail on this one . .I already guessed once and I'm stuck again ..
1:53 pm
hurshy

ACK
1:54 pm
mamabear

I'm not seeing much here.....either.
1:54 pm
hurshy

do you want help? if you promise not to use the g word i can help.
1:55 pm
mamabear

I think I might just pick one of the 18,000 1/5 combos and go with it
1:55 pm
torgone

Thanks anyway, but if I can't get it with simple techniques I usually just drop it . .
1:55 pm
hurshy

OR i could give you a Super Duper Coded Hurshy Clue to tell you whether to pick the 1 or the 5, mama
1:56 pm
mamabear

Thanks, hursh - but I'll come back to it later - for now I gotta get back to work!!! ta ta! ta ta, too tor!
1:57 pm
hurshy

okey dokey, ttfn!
1:57 pm
torgone

cya mamabear ..
1:59 pm
torgone

I was trying to find a good capture of that Troops video for star Trek day just to mess with you . .
2:00 pm
hurshy

pllllt
2:01 pm
hurshy

bad enough shatner prostituting himself the way he does. this latest is the worst yet... the direct tv commercial, i think it is. using clips from STVI! the best movie! and splicing them in with him in his capt's uniform saying stuff about direct tv!! it's blasphemous, is what it is.
2:04 pm
torgone

The man has no shame ..
2:04 pm
torgone

He's an imp . .
2:04 pm
hurshy

it is true.
2:05 pm
tchansen

The man is an actor and works for a buck, just like the rest of us. Blame the person that came up with the ad campaign, not the actor.
2:07 pm
hurshy

you don't see nimoy doing it. he probably cried when he saw it.
2:07 pm
torgone

Whatever .. I like Shat .. He doesn't take himself too seriously ..
2:07 pm
tchansen

They probably didn't offer it to him as he isn't as popular. True, Shatner could have turned it down but if they offered him enough it would be hard to refuse.
2:08 pm
hurshy

umm... i'm going back to babble
2:10 pm
hurshy

i can discuss politics and religion calmly, but not star trek... lol
2:12 pm
tchansen

Sorry. I love Star Trek - I meant no offense. I just don't blame the worker for what the manager did. The license holder to Star Trek is responsible and should be accountable. My opinion though...
2:16 pm
hurshy

everyone involved is responsible! heads should roll!
2:16 pm
tchansen

Off With Their Heads!
2:17 pm
hurshy

i feel better now :)
2:20 pm
tchansen

That's what's important...
2:26 pm
spazzy

help?
2:29 pm
spazzy

afsdjAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! ! 1 2 3 guess. [sigh].
2:29 pm
tchansen

???
2:30 pm
spazzy

exactly. that's what i'm thinking
2:30 pm
tchansen

I've only got one set of nine (upper left) completed.
2:31 pm
spazzy

i'm not even that far.
2:34 pm
spazzy

ugh. whatever. i think i'll go do something else for a bit - not thinking about it helps sometimes. c-ya
2:45 pm
kindkat

hmmm....that one was not that hard.....
2:53 pm
Zugzug7

dont' even tell me how but I got it! Something in the lower right quadrant didn't look right.
3:07 pm
1MoreGame

go
3:17 pm
1MoreGame

done
3:17 pm
1MoreGame

with a phone call. Wasn't that hard, more of a medium.
3:44 pm
Minski

Done! Not too difficult.
4:05 pm
sherb

ready, steady, go...
4:12 pm
sherb

*yawn* ...looks like I've got bored with sudoku...
4:33 pm
RodeoRogue

go
4:52 pm
helenkeller

go
4:59 pm
helenkeller

to
6:46 pm
hurshy

the
6:46 pm
hurshy

bathroom?
6:56 pm
btwrt

lol hursh