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Difficulty: Medium Thursday, September 21, 2006

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CHAT LOG for Thursday, September 21, 2006

12:24 am
sprite

Easy enough
12:28 am
hoaf

Did you mark?
12:28 am
sprite

Nope. Not really necessary with this one.
12:29 am
hoaf

Heh.
12:30 am
lawfully

looks tricky, though not impossible...
12:30 am
hoaf

Sprite's good with these, I think.
12:30 am
sprite

There were lots of hidden pairs in this one.
12:31 am
hoaf

I'm catching 'em, bit by bit ... what time is it where you live, Sprite?
12:31 am
sprite

7.32 am
12:32 am
hoaf

It's 10:32pm for me. I'm tired. :^P
12:32 am
sprite

lol! That's it, I was up bright and early, all ready for the day :) (NOT!)
12:32 am
lailie

this new one was soooo much easier :)
12:33 am
sprite

wtg lailie :)
12:33 am
hoaf

Why get up sooo early? I'm lucky if I make it out of bed by 8:00am ...
12:33 am
sprite

Kids must go to school. And preferably must be fed by then.
12:34 am
hoaf

Given food or fed to something?
12:34 am
hoaf

:^)
12:34 am
sprite

LOL! Depends on their behaviour!
12:35 am
hoaf

My icon's a picture of my pride and joy circa 2 months ago ...
12:35 am
sprite

Wow, adorable! And some will of her own, if I read that look correctly...
12:36 am
hoaf

Yep. Likes to bend us to HER schedule.
12:36 am
sprite

Good for her ;)
12:36 am
hoaf

I can't wait until she starts talking. Actually, I can.
12:36 am
hoaf

:^)
12:37 am
hoaf

How old're yours? Mine's 6 1/2 months.
12:37 am
sprite

Wait till she starts talking back, you'll regret the day she said "dada". Or not.
12:37 am
sprite

Mine are 10 and 8. They talk back.
12:38 am
hoaf

Ah, hell. She'll have me wrapped around her finger. I'm already resigned to it.
12:38 am
hoaf

That's what duct tape is for!
12:38 am
sprite

Great invention, duct tape. Saved my life.
12:38 am
hoaf

Perfect for those "But I REALLY WANT A PONY" situations.
12:38 am
sprite

And theirs.
12:38 am
hoaf

Heh.
12:39 am
sprite

Nah, actually they are pretty great kids. I love them to bits and am very proud of them. But what is the fun in chatting in that way ;)
12:39 am
hoaf

Man, I'm blind today. This is taking too long. *sigh*
12:40 am
sprite

Stop chatting. Start concentrating. LOL.
12:40 am
hoaf

You're in the Netherlands? Do your kids speak English as well?
12:41 am
sprite

They learn to at school, from the age of 8.
12:41 am
hoaf

Cool.
12:41 am
sprite

And of course what they pick up from computergames, which is probably even more ;)
12:42 am
hoaf

I'm working on the bilingual thing, myself. Mostly from Kung fu flicks. :^D
12:42 am
sprite

That's hard enough. Especially to duplicate the way the mouths don't move consistent with the talk :)
12:43 am
hoaf

Especially since the friggin' Mandarin films are dubbed into Cantonese, and vice-versa. Sheesh.
12:43 am
sprite

I'd call that a challenge. A BIG one.
12:43 am
hoaf

But I do love watching the Korean martial arts flicks dubbed into Spanish. They're GREAT!
12:44 am
sprite

hehehe
12:46 am
WHB

Done
12:46 am
hoaf

Finally. I think it's bedtime for Bonzo, here.
12:46 am
sprite

wtg whb
12:46 am
hoaf

Have a swell night!
12:46 am
hoaf

Er, morning.
12:46 am
hoaf

"WHB?"
12:46 am
sprite

night hoaf, cuddle that great kid of yours from me :)
12:46 am
hoaf

And thanks.
12:47 am
hoaf

I would ... but the girls (wife and child) are in friggin' CHINA right now.
12:47 am
hoaf

I miss 'em. Well, I don't miss the crying at 4am thing, but overall ...
12:47 am
sprite

Argh! You have to save the cuddles then...
12:47 am
hoaf

I will. I'll try not to smother the girl next time I see her. :^)
12:48 am
sprite

Then I wish you some great dreams of the two of them :)
12:48 am
hoaf

Thanks.
12:48 am
hoaf

G'nite
12:48 am
lawfully

done, should have spotted the hidden pair long ago...
12:48 am
sprite

yep, they are the key to the whole thing today.
1:24 am
chrissie2006

I can never figure out what you guys mean when you talk about pairs and triplets :S
1:29 am
poreid

Chrissie, I'm not good at explaining it, but if you search on google, you can find sites that give good explanations and examples. It's a way of eliminating certain options by identifying pairs of squares that have similar/same options
4:09 am
bzikofski

this one is quite hard - i can't find any numbers !!! what a puzzle
4:18 am
bzikofski

seems like it's all about the pairs techniques here
5:51 am
jwjjjcjh

done
7:02 am
eyeman

whew, got it but had to guess a 2.
7:26 am
drwho

Computer rating: 17. I think it might be harder than that.
7:32 am
NJL

done...that wasn't to hard
7:35 am
franebrown

YES it was! Unless I learn of the pairs, triples, etc., I'll remain too frustrated to continue. Today makes it 3 impossible days in a row................
7:36 am
franebrown

I meant to say: YES it IS!
7:39 am
drwho

Suppose you have a row with several empty squares, but you know that two of those squares can only contain 2 of the missing digits...
7:41 am
drwho

...and suppose that the 2 squares that can only contain 2 digits (but you don't know which order) are also in the same 3x3 region.
7:42 am
drwho

Then you can eliminate the possiblity of those 2 missing digits appearing in any of the other empty squares in the 3x3 region.
7:43 am
drwho

Similar logic can be applied to columns and regions or regions and rows or regions and columns.
9:00 am
bzikofski

done without guessing
9:00 am
bzikofski

used only some technique - probably hidden pair
10:05 am
Jerry

It all gets real easy when you discover the 7 X-wing in the rows.
10:06 am
bzikofski

x-wing ?
10:08 am
Jerry

If a number appears in only two cells of a row, and there is a second row with the same two numbers only in the same two columns, you can eliminate that number from all other cells in the two columns. The same holds true for columns.
10:08 am
bzikofski

ah yea
10:09 am
bzikofski

i didnt know that it's called x-wing but i found it, specifically in the 1st and 3rd block (top left + top right)
10:12 am
bzikofski

that also applies to two cells of a block, doesn't it?
10:14 am
Jerry

Im not sure what you mean. An X-wing requires four cells in two rows (or columns)
10:18 am
bzikofski

http://bzikofski.civ.pl/xwing.gif
10:20 am
bzikofski

i mean that the numbers can also be separated in a block (placed aslant)
10:20 am
bzikofski

what's the word for that ? is aslant ok?
10:21 am
bzikofski

(PS note that it's just an example - i moved the numbers to illustrate the example ;)
10:27 am
Jerry

Yes, I see what you mean
10:32 am
bzikofski

what's the word for the slanted position ? if two numbers are next to each other it would be parallel or horizontal
10:33 am
Jerry

You could say diagonal, but aslant is OK
10:33 am
bzikofski

diagnoal
10:33 am
bzikofski

cool thanks
10:34 am
bzikofski

i catch the oportunity to update my lingo ;)
10:54 am
RodeoRogue

begin...
11:09 am
RodeoRogue

not too terribly difficult. No green
11:41 am
yul

hello everybody
11:48 am
bzikofski

i'm at 187 - it's hard but i'm finishing it. no special tricks needed
11:49 am
bzikofski

done
11:50 am
bzikofski

now 189 - it's easy - i must finish it without any greens ! :)
11:55 am
chad

hello all
12:01 pm
yul

finished. have a nice day, everybody
12:47 pm
bzikofski

189 is quite hard. i'd say medium ;) but done
12:48 pm
Jerry

Where do you get the 189 number? My Archive list is not numbered.
12:48 pm
bzikofski

go to any archive puzzle - you'll see the number in the URL
12:49 pm
Jerry

Thank you
12:50 pm
bzikofski

no probs. i'm trying to complete the ones i didnt have time to..
1:02 pm
bzikofski

here's my lousy progress: http://bzikofski.civ.pl/sudoku.gif ;)
1:07 pm
Minski

done!
1:17 pm
bzikofski

later
1:51 pm
tsianami

that one was one of the easiest I've done
1:51 pm
tsianami

It is pretty neat to see how people think differently.
3:12 pm
Minski

I always use the green numbers. I find it easiest to go through from 1 to 9 in each box and mark with green what each square can be. Then I just eliminate possibilities. It always involves some guessing, but if you save your work when you are sure, you can always go back.
4:35 pm
Minski

Done again!!
7:59 pm
moedog

hi alll
8:13 pm
moedog

nice
8:19 pm
helenkeller

go
8:33 pm
helenkeller

done