why's it ranked medium?

go

done... but not just medium

done

Done. Once you properly mark it, it's pretty easy...

done but needed marks - tried to do it without marks but it was a puzzle that was relatively easy with marks, very hard without them

yeah, Im having a bit of trouble with it.

I havn't resorted to marking just yet

Done

Done, definitely needed the green marks.

What's the marking?

must be the fever - I'm having a hard time tackling this one, even with green numbers. Will go back to bed and see if my intellect improves later in the weekend.

mom, you're up early... or late

hmmmm it does look a tad tricky

this doesn't seem like a medium

what's with all the interruptions??? grrr especially since it was flowing really well just then

finally got it! :D

WTG Penguin

thanx! good luck!

nearly there myself <fingerscrossed>

yip me done too

hi all

I rate this a 34 on my newly minted difficulty rating system.

The "easiest" I have seen so far is a 13 and the "toughest" a 49.

interesting, what is this system, is it just a fun random thing or have you got some sort of algorithm (if you're still here...)?

dr who all gone :( now i'll never know

The system is a computer program that solve the puzzle and estimates how much work it takes.

ooh drwho back! thank you :)

I just rated the puzzles from yesterday and the 6th. Yesterday was a 24 and the 6th's was a 26.

scale of 1 to...?

It is impossible for me to say. I know that there cannot be anything less than a 2, but I don't know what the top end is.

oh interesting

rate 3/28 for the heck of it xD

Oh wait, no archives, nvm ^^;;

you could tell drwho where the initial numbers go, seedy

unless drwho does have archives but just hasn't put up icon flag or little gender person

True...standby for link to photo of it dr

*sings* big wheel keep on turnin... proud mary keep on burnin...

I can see the archives, I just can't play them online.

oh how VERY interesting, did not know doc had set it up that way... very tantalizing

duly noted

The difficulty score for 3/28 is a whopping 64!

everyone felt it has been the hardest so far, so that makes sense

64 is a lovely number though. square, so many nice factors...

my silly husband would prefer 65, can you believe it?

64 is the highest difficulty rating I have seen so far.

i have a 3-pronged rating system

i can do it without marks, i use marks, i use forcing chain.

really though the middle shouldn't even be there cause i think the only difference between those first two is how clear-headed i am

and how patient or impatient...

You must have a good memory.

raw-thuh

hmm maybe rah-thuh would be better

hey hurshy!

hey limer! :)

How are you being treated by the world?

cruelly. i am an orphan blown by a bitter wind. i put out my hand for a morsel to eat, and find only cold stares.

Waxing poetic, I see

yes, my sailboat needed a good polish. when do you want a ride in the HMS Poetic, anyway?

oh, geex

i know what you're thinking

puns again

most likely

how does a pauperish orphan have a sailboat?

Good question

it was left to me by my great-uncle. he was the last family i have, and the boat is the only memento of love i possess. with it i cannot part, though i starve.

sadly all his ready cash was needed to pay his funeral costs and creditors.

not good to hold onto material things. You need to let those things go.

I.E. take the money and run!

i do let her go, when there's a good wind

limer, have you no sentiment? no finer feelings?

I have a supply of beans for your wind

*chuckle*

guess that answers my question

For boats, no: for people yes.

but the boat REPRESENTS people, or rather, person, said great-uncle.

ah, he was a fine sailor

Would your Great-Uncle stop being so cherrished if a hurricane destroyed the boat?

no, but the wind that rent the planks would tear my heart asunder

oh, geez

you say that a lot, limer. it makes me think you don't really like me after all.

BIG oh, geez

How in the world do you get THAT idea?????

cause...cause...if you don't like my goofy ways...

My grandmother left me a small piece of property in MI

On it is a delaptated old house

ooh really? i wish somebody would leave me something

It will need about 50,000 dollars of work to make it livable.

So I want to sell it and get the money to fix my house here in Ohio.

but if you think about that as what you're paying for a house, it's a pretty good price!!!

I'll put you in my will

cleveland rocks, cleveland rocks

Not when my house in OH is worth over 100,000

oh, i dunno if you should do that limer

My will be done!

put me in your will i mean

he he

i mean you could have if you hadn't told me

You cannot stop me if I chose to

so there!

nay

but you can't TELL people they are in your will or you're liable to get murdered

oh, geez

it's almost as dangerous as blackmail

Hurshy.....

if you blackmail someone you might as well put a bullseye on your chest

You are the most unique character I have ever met

yes limer?

aw...actually, i'm probably the most derivative character you've ever met, i just derive from an eclectic array of sources

Hurshy.....

yes limer?

I love your ways. Don't change anything.

okey dokey, whatever you say, thy will be done

speaking of which, i love when scotty says that to capt. kirk

Yes, I command you. (As if I can)

how many numbers have you put in, limer?

5

me 6

it's a thinker

yup

gotta go

lunch appt

oh no! bye limer!

love all you out in Sudoku Land

Stop in Oh and see me sometime

just watch the 7's, all you out in sudoku land, that sharp corner can poke your eye out

begin...

hello everybody

blast, i don't want to put in greens...

go greens! go greens!

but i am feeling impatient.

mmm, i think maybe i take a shower and then come back to it.

i had to restart :(

silly yul

put in reds instead then :P

lol no

i am going to take a shower and then THINK HARD

lol :)

finished. without marking

yeah whatever

everyone, laters

see, if yul can do it...

not possible

there are always alternatives

without marking anything - this diagram is not doable

but what if you can sort of mark in your head

yeah well maybe.. with easy one, sure

i do it with hard ones frequently.

i believe if i am patient i can do all but the most expert puzzles without marking.

good for you

course this theory is unscientific, can not be proved or disproved, cause i can never be sure if i was impatient or if i really couldn't have done it, lol

mmm apple chips

Was prepared for the worst but it went by without any problems. Hooray!

with or without marking, ms. almond paste?

Crap. Stuck at nine numbers. :^P

ooh, hoaf has given me hope

i have only 6

Why, 'cause even somebody like me can get 9 munbers? :^D

i think my sudoku skills are going downhill

no, no, i just think, if someone else did it, well, then i can too

Yay. 10 numbers.

Oh, I used them.. and liked it.

ok now you're just rubbing it in

hurshy, you'll get it.

it's a bear, even with greenies

why thank you twin

i have a bear!

I've been putting it off for proper break time.

they should really put these apple chips in a smaller bag so i don't feel like a pig for eating a whole bag.

Hurshy: 10's the magic number.

It's easy after that ...

you tease me, for there are no 10's in sudoku

It is if you add 1.

that still means i have four non-easy numbers to fined.

oops

find

how did that e sneak in there?

e = 5 = 10/2, two of which are in a sudoku.

Too much coffe.

See? You stole my e ...

i drink no coffee

never have had even one sip

Why's that?

cause my dad drinks no coffee, and he was the cool one

evil, poisonous brew, he would say

Hurshy: how're your 2's and 4's?

i have put in 2 4's and one 2

no sorry 3 4's

overlooked one there.

You should be able to get a couple more 2's "fairly easily" ...

2's, eh?

And a couple 7's.

2's and 7's

thank you for the tip

I could be wrong, you know. I'm working at the same time, so ...

:^)

oh dear, so you may have messed up??

arg, i have a cat tail in the middle of my screen

there now it is gone

I'll letcha know if I get stuck.

let me know if you finish, too, cause that is key.

Heh.

aha, got 2's!

Yay!

there's a 7!

ok so i have 9 now, this is where you got one more and made your breakthrough

Something like that.

this is exciting

Heh, I have 4.

5. =)

i know which one you need next parsec!! :) :)

10! yay yay yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:^)

now i will roll smoothly, according to friend hoaf

yes this seems to be true

uhoh

We aims to please.

i have oopsted.

how did this happen?

backing up

I hate oopsting.

golly, could one of my four's have been wrong?

no, that's right

well now i know something but only cause i messed up, that's annoying.

ok i am not using that knowledge and i'm doing fine anyway

hopefully i have fixed my oopst

I messed up on *1* 4 (I think) the first time through as well ...

i didn't mess up on a 4

messed up on a 2 i think

Tough medium.

jest a smidge

though really now that i am going i don't know why it took me so long to see what i needed to do

So: I said 10 was the key, saved, screwed up, restored, screwed up differently, restarted, recreated the save *exactly*, powered through without any more trouble.

I suck.

No green (or red), either.

why do you suck then?

Well ... I've been doing better, lately (not counting the recent batch of easies). It took me too long.

I've been subscribing to the Hurshy School of Marking Avoidance (tm), and it's actually been helping ...

... but not today.

yes, but i think we're all finding that

and i really don't understand why

maybe the hole in the ozone is bigger today.

I blame Australia.

oh nooooooooooooooooooooooo

i have messed up again

how can this be

my head must be unclear

How 'bout this: you get a few 2s, 4s, 7s, and a 1 ... then you look at the upper corner squares and look for pairs.

well i am sure i know what to do this time but i just have to be more careful

Yes ma'am.

i have never felt stupider than i do right now

How's the babble going today, then? You rock at that ...

i finished that.

See? You can't be that stoopid. :^P

anybody else think when randy newman sings "louisiana" it sounds like he's singing about "wheezy anna"?

i AM stoopid, today.

Randy Newman? Doesn't he work for Disney?

:^)

i dunno, does he? it is a large conglomerate, they may own his label

Well, his songs seem to appear in every. Freaking. Disney. Movie.

hmm for instance?

(i haven't seen recent ones, like nothing since lion king)

What type of music do you listen to, Hurshy? Is Mr Newman typical?

i listen to a wide variety of things

You mean "King Lear with Animals?"

i cant do this sudoku :P

it can't be king lear, there's no daughters

sure you can, loopy

do we all get the same one?

There's a warthog and a meercat. Do they count?

Loopy: Yes, we do.

yes we do

ok

no, they are much nicer than regan and goneril

Heh.

im not lookin for answersbut has any1 got a number?

yes, we have got several numbers.

4.

7

found one

at the moment i have 15 and don't THINK i have messed up this time. i am so ashamed, i so rarely mess up. slow, sure, but careful. it is very odd.

this tells you when you have gone wrong

yeah but sometimes you go wrong in a more subtle way and you don't find it out until later

ooooh

Only if you have the same number in the line or box, not if it's the wrong number in the wrong place.

like that.

oh yeh

http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/cubegoodies
/80fc/?cpg=cj

hoaf so good explainer

Figured that'd appeal to anybody here who isn't a kid ...

am i the only english person here :S

possibly at the moment, loopy, but not overall.

good

Loopy sure speaks American well.

eh?

For a foreigner.

ure the foreigner lol

hoaf is making a joke because english and "american" are basically the same language.

exactly

hey, i'm foreigner than any of you

to americans speaks english or do english speak american :S

Basically. But if you get a pommie, an ausie, and a kiwi in a room ...

a kiwi?

we are all foreigners depending on the context

yup

New Zealander.

grr im stuck again

Hurshy: Really? Does that mean you're cold as ice?

Or have double vision?

no it means i'm a vulcan

I knew it!

Sweet.

no, it means he's Hot Blooded

(clearly NOT or i would be too logical to ever mess up a sudoku - and really, this is not that hard now that i'm thinking straight)

Or a jukebox hero.

I think he Wants to Know What Love Is

And partial to sweatbands, I assume.

*she, excuse me

And likes to play head games.

what on earth are you all going on about? jukebox hero? sweatbands?

every time she finishes a puzzle, It Feels Like The First Time..... Feels like the very first time!!!

THERE.

I finished with a very uneducated guess. I got stuck after 5 numbers though, made the right guess, and zoomed through.

seriously, why did i have trouble with that? i am silly.

you GUESSED on a MEDIUM?? *hurshy is horrified*

I dunno, TP17. I think she's a long way from home on this puzzle.

<bows head in shame>

still love you and all that, bunny

Hurshy, I've been Waiting.... For a Girl Like You

You better talk to TP17, Hurshy -- it's urgent.

are you just singing, or really? cause my heart belongs to another...

lol, guessing only counts for half the dis-credit cause I didn't use any little colored numbers

but I'm just a Dirty White Boy

at least the little numbers are systematic

Hurshy wrote: hey, i'm foreigner than any of you

i'm sorry, i'm too spockish to countenance guessing

Calm down, TP17 -- don't rev on the line.

what can I say? She's Too Tough

I'm not good with systems, I hit curbs, mailboxes...all that jazz, can't stay in the lines. Take naps in Wal-Mart when I feel the urge.

I admit it! TP17 is the master of arena rock!

But I'll always be the agent provocateur, I guess.

HAHA! You're not too bad yourself, Hoaf

but every morning without Hurshy is just a Blue Morning... Blue Day

hitting curbs and mailboxes and taking naps in walmart is fine, but GUESSING?!?!

That's the only stuff they played on the radio where I grew up.

me too

LOL, you're right. So I should stop closing my eyes and guessing if the light is green or red?

lol

Maybe you're colorblind.

:^)

TP17: where'd you grow up?

All right, twins are out. Time to continue the Star Wars marathon.

Pittsburgh. You?

ta-ta, folks!

The high desert of California.

Bye!, Hurshy!

I have a friend that lives in Yorba Linda

Trailer trash central.

See ya Hurshy... stop playing Head Games

Where I grew up, that is. Never been to Yorba Linda.

it's nice. I think he went to Esperanza high school. I just know we went to Newport beach and played vball all day long

Huh. My neighbors were more the bmx/motocross set ...

My town (and high school) spawned the lead "singer" of Blink 182. Ick.

I like Blink 182

my high school spawned the wife of NBA star Jason Williams (White Chocolate)

take care everybody. I'm out

See ya!

my county spawned The Carter Family & June Carter Cash

here in the home of the US Olympic Curling Team

my town spawned Axl Rose and film director Sydney Pollac

my home county claims fame of The Rocket Boys (Movie Rocket Boys)

Nope the move was October Sky

blueskies?

finally finished 1st Sept puzzle, hard my ass more like an Expert!!! Have a good day/evening all

go

done