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Difficulty: Expert Thursday, August 31, 2006

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CHAT LOG for Thursday, August 31, 2006

12:28 am
plurple

whee
12:30 am
lawfully

done, w/ one guess
12:48 am
Zoor

DONE!!
12:56 am
WHB

Done and I made the hot list
1:09 am
sprite

morning all
2:14 am
Atalante

is this a hard expert or an easy expert??
2:56 am
mikehell

To me, it was a hard hard haaaard exert... had to guess too many times
2:56 am
Grendel

it was head hurting hard
2:56 am
Grendel

i had to guess twice
3:11 am
whever

Dude, it wasn't THAT hard... two words: Candi Dates
3:16 am
MrOoijer

what does that mean Candi dates?
3:18 am
whever

candidates
3:19 am
whever

The little green thingies.
3:19 am
MrOoijer

i could not solve this one without guessing
3:20 am
whever

Did you not use candidates?
3:20 am
MrOoijer

i do not know what you mean by that
3:21 am
h

this one did not require any guessing - altho a paper-print allowed me to write IF-xxx, then-YYY sequences until it broke-open for me...
3:21 am
whever

If you use Shift while clicking on a number. It marks it as a candidate. You should read up on that. It's very helpful.
3:23 am
MrOoijer

igot stuck at one point when there were only candidate pairs left and i could not find any chain of "IF xxx then etc". so I guessed. wrong. :-)
3:26 am
h

the first chain i ran had about 8 boxes before i hit a conflict. then i had a second-chain of about 4 boxes (which is much more typical)
3:28 am
h

i had never read about the red/green stuff until just now - does that work for the freebie-players too?
3:29 am
MrOoijer

i think so, yes,
3:30 am
MrOoijer

back to work :-)
3:30 am
h

coolness - thx - i like the paper-print cuz i can draw diagonals or horizontals to split the number-pairs and keep the IF-chains consistent tho... maybe id mark one-red and one-green to act similarly... :)
3:58 am
Linda

done - not sure why it was rated as expert. found it easier than some of the easy ones
4:07 am
OneTrickPony

Is anyone awake at this hour?
4:20 am
rjan_de

easy one 11:19@germany ;-)
4:28 am
abstract17fr

hi all
4:34 am
Onpaki

hi abstract
5:57 am
augurus

Finished bar guessing. This puzzle was not as easy as people claim nor as migraine inducing as others claim. It's a low tier expert puzzle.
6:16 am
bzikofski

it's not that easy as Linda says. it is an expert puzzle
6:29 am
bzikofski

it's impossible to be solved without guessing
7:04 am
bzikofski

i just made a guess in the lower left section
7:08 am
bzikofski

another guess in the same section
7:11 am
Kukana


you shouldn't have to guess twice in the lower left section, one of the pairs is in a unique rectangle set
7:12 am
bzikofski

i have no idea about rectangle sets. i haven't found a single sudoku tutorial explaining the methods in the human way :)
7:15 am
Kukana

Yeah, it's a bit complicated but I finally got my head around it with this page: http://www.scanraid.com/AdvanStrategies.htm#U
R
7:16 am
bzikofski

cool
7:17 am
bzikofski

thanks Kukana, i will have some reading now :) i just finished the puzzle with over 5 wild guesses :)
7:18 am
Kukana

good guesses, then :)
7:23 am
eyeman

2 guesses for me, one right and one wrong. But it all ends well. 5 points, please.
7:25 am
bzikofski

Kukana - the methods are too complicated. i get lost at the triple stuff. i prefer to use my methods.
7:30 am
chebuctonian

whoa... expert! hello, all :)
7:33 am
Moozey

howdy
7:47 am
Moozey

hmmmm that was interesting, very easy no guessing and I don't do that advanced stuff, so how the heck did I manage it without any hiccoughs??
8:32 am
caderoux

Probably because it's only 2 XY-wings and a brute force, and they come late in the game.
9:23 am
Krys10

Not a bad start... the 6's, 9's, 4's all fall into place. Must get ugly later...
9:37 am
franebrown

Exactly!
9:37 am
franebrown

I Can't believe I gotta start over because of a duplication! Stupid me!
9:38 am
Krys10

bummer
9:56 am
yul

hello everybody
10:20 am
trev

done 1st ex guessed 2 lol
10:23 am
yul

starting a small marking session...
10:46 am
yul

found a conflict...
10:49 am
yul

i need another one
10:59 am
yul

i wish Moozey would remembered moozey's moves, so i could ask
11:04 am
yul

finally finished, after 3 forsing
11:06 am
yul

i meant forcing chaings
11:11 am
yul

there should be a programm which records the steps of puzzle solving.
11:47 am
RodeoRogue

begin...eeep
12:05 pm
Limer

Ha
12:05 pm
Limer

Nailed that puppy!
12:06 pm
Limer

Rank me, baby!
12:06 pm
Limer

No green or red
12:06 pm
Limer

Cue theme music
12:24 pm
mab

it's a miracle! lots of green but no guessing.
12:34 pm
RodeoRogue

2 guesses. but i'll take it. woohoo
1:00 pm
franebrown

Help please! I've got all greens. How do I eliminate?
1:02 pm
nilole

franebrown: Try this website: http://www.scanraid.com/BasicStrategies.htm .. It helped me out tons when I started playing. :)
1:07 pm
franebrown

Thanx sooo much. Will do. Luv your froggie nilole!
1:09 pm
nilole

You're welcome! And thanks! It's a Google talk icon.
1:37 pm
franebrown

i give up today..............
2:04 pm
TP17

don't give up
2:10 pm
VITAMAN

fihished.....but had to make a few guesses on this one to get it. :)
4:06 pm
ibroadrunr

it's so unfair when an expert level starts out easy
4:34 pm
hurshy

*flips through thousand page sudoku manual looking for section, subsection, regulation specifying no false hope to be granted in expert sudoku puzzles*
4:39 pm
ibroadrunr

:)
5:25 pm
davetysall

that's wierd i just found this quite easy yet i have struggled the last few easies. I think my brain is backwards
5:39 pm
SeedyV

Stuck at a point where I think guessing is necessary...confirm/deny?
5:49 pm
SeedyV

I guess goot. Done.
6:01 pm
peternl

hi all
6:47 pm
peternl

tricky - two unique rectangles and two guesses
7:58 pm
patsee

not too many greenies
7:59 pm
patsee

limer sez "rank me baby: (like i care)
8:03 pm
spellacked

not too bad -- it required a red-track, but everything fell out once my tracks found a contradiction.
8:30 pm
helenkeller

go
8:40 pm
Stephanie

go
9:03 pm
helenkeller

done
9:17 pm
Stephanie

finally!!
9:37 pm
scsongbird

took half an hour, but done!
10:24 pm
yul

i think Dr God played a joke on me today and sent me a different puzzle to you, guys :)
11:25 pm
binky2you

Lordy!