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Difficulty: Hard Monday, July 24, 2006

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CHAT LOG for Monday, July 24, 2006

12:20 am
lawfully

done... not bad
12:20 am
kelly

grrr... I'm stuck.
12:21 am
Penguin

Good morning,
I'm slowly working on it. I'm making a little progress.
12:21 am
lawfully

it's not bad... no hard trick required
12:22 am
Penguin

So, lawfully, we don't need any guessing like last night?
12:22 am
lawfully

not at all... there's at least one clue lurking... far better than yesterday...
12:23 am
lawfully

(honestly, I did two guesses yesterday :(
12:23 am
raggedyandy3478

morning law and penguin
12:23 am
Penguin

Okay ... thanks.

That is both thank you for letting me know this is doable and thank you for not giving away the clue. 8-)
12:23 am
lawfully

morning, still one score up :)
12:24 am
Penguin

Good morning Raggedy.
12:24 am
raggedyandy3478

haha law, yup, havent missed a day since i believe April 2nd
12:24 am
lawfully

I kind of remember if you're stuck, check the right bottom box
12:25 am
lawfully

I'm still waiting for a day you're gonna miss one, ragged :)
12:26 am
raggedyandy3478

that day may come sooner than you think, 2 weeks from 2day i start my training to be an RA, and i may miss a day or 2 in that time frame
12:26 am
lawfully

(joking, haha)
12:26 am
raggedyandy3478

i know, but letting u know, haha
12:27 am
Penguin

There is the advantage to throwing a couple of bucks to DrGod. I can catch up any time. 8-)

This does move steadily along. Slow, but steady.
12:27 am
MpP

yep...definitely solvable...almost there
12:27 am
raggedyandy3478

u have to have a couple bucks to throw, thats the prob w/me penguin
12:28 am
MpP

done!
12:28 am
MpP

done!
12:28 am
lawfully

ragged, did you guess for yesterday's?
12:29 am
raggedyandy3478

i think of it more as a logic tree
12:29 am
Penguin

Don't worry, Raggedy. If you are unlucky as most of us, you will be out of college soon and making money. Then a few of us are lucky enough to return to education ... but not to really make money. 8-/
12:29 am
raggedyandy3478

lol, in other words, yes
12:30 am
raggedyandy3478

haha penguin, i hope i'll make some money, as an engnr from GaTech i have quite the rep tha will precede me
12:30 am
lawfully

I'm relieved to hear that...
12:30 am
Penguin

Ha, ha. If you use that phrasing, then I did not have to guess either yesterday ... it was a logic tree. 8-)
12:30 am
lawfully

... that logic works no matter what... :)
12:31 am
raggedyandy3478

exactly penguin, its a logic tree, my friend(CS Major) and I have rationalized this activity that is usually referred to as guessing
12:31 am
Penguin

Yes, Raggedy, Georgia Tech is well known throughout the U.S. Your future is bright so long as you survive to greet it.
12:32 am
lawfully

yup, pursuing a possibility to the end until either it solves the prob or it dead ends...
12:32 am
Alkaid11

this was a lot nicer than yesterdays... at least for me it was
12:32 am
raggedyandy3478

good point penguin, i do have to survive
12:33 am
rycaut

done - but for the last few I used green - shouldn't have needed them however, had just missed a relationship that helped a lot
12:33 am
lawfully

surviving is important...
12:33 am
Penguin

Survival does make the next day more likely. 8-)
12:34 am
lawfully

good night all
12:34 am
raggedyandy3478

night law
12:35 am
Penguin

Good night lawfully,
Survive the night well. 8-)
12:35 am
Alkaid11

so what's all this using green or red stuff that i've heard of, anyone care to explain?
12:36 am
Alkaid11

im somewhat new to ironsudoku
12:36 am
raggedyandy3478

we always welcome newcomers, i forgot how to use them since i dont use them but they are on the help page i believe
12:36 am
Penguin

Hello Alkaid,
If you hold down the shift or alt key, you can color your entries ... and have several small notes in the square. Try playing with it.
12:36 am
Alkaid11

oh ok
12:37 am
raggedyandy3478

or penguin can show me up and know what hes talking about
12:37 am
Penguin

Some people like to use the colors to either note what is possible or what is impossible.
12:38 am
Alkaid11

ha, oh wow... who would've thunk... if i'd read the instructions i would've found out that little trick
12:38 am
Alkaid11

lol
12:38 am
Penguin

Or, Raggedy, I can show that I am still so weak at this that I need to use the colors regularly. (My one point of pride is that I don't use the Javascript).
12:38 am
raggedyandy3478

true, that javascript makes things real easy
12:38 am
Penguin

Yes, Alkaid, RTFM (Read the FRIENDLY manual). 8-)
12:39 am
Alkaid11

lol thanks guys, i learn something new everyday, take care
12:39 am
raggedyandy3478

i have used that once or twice in my day, but have learned to make it w/out any markings other than what i track inside my head
12:40 am
raggedyandy3478

us Alkaid
12:40 am
raggedyandy3478

*u2
12:42 am
Penguin

There it goes. Everything falls into place without any guessing needed.
12:43 am
raggedyandy3478

im a little stuck, but refuse to use my logic tree tonight
12:44 am
Penguin

I agree with lawfully, you shouldn't need the "logic tree" tonight. There are a few patterns that will fall into place if you are stubborn enough.

For me, it is time to fall over. I'm off to meet my new principal for the second time tomorrow morning. Good night.
12:44 am
raggedyandy3478

gnight penguin
12:47 am
raggedyandy3478

and done
3:22 am
Krys10

ooh, 666 in this one - bad omen
5:51 am
sprite

Good afternoon, all
6:02 am
sprite

That was easy.
6:14 am
Moozey

agreed sprite... easy
7:30 am
peep

good morning krys. you're up early!
7:41 am
UDbmas

morning all
7:41 am
Marzipan

Good morning.
7:50 am
peternl

hi all
7:50 am
UDbmas

morning...er...evening...oh nevermind...HI
7:51 am
peternl

;-)
7:55 am
avalon

Hello!
8:00 am
UDbmas

howdy
8:03 am
peternl

hmm, drats, messed up!
8:22 am
peternl

easy enough when you dont make a mistake
8:34 am
yul

hello
8:39 am
hurshy

hard, schmard. that was distinctly easier than pie.
9:00 am
yul

yes, peezy.
9:53 am
chebuctonian

hi all
10:03 am
caffeinatedelf

easier than pie? yay!
10:23 am
Arturion

That was pretty easy... Why are the mediums harder than the hards?
10:33 am
sxygirl

hiya
10:33 am
sxygirl

veryone
10:57 am
Limer

oh yeah, baby! Hard one today
10:57 am
Limer

this seems like an aweful lot of numbers to start with
11:01 am
Krys10

That did seems awfully straightforward for a "hard". I feel shortchanged!
11:36 am
scribble

ello :)
11:36 am
Limer

scribble!
11:37 am
Limer

elllo, luv
11:37 am
scribble

limer!
11:37 am
Limer

I'm here
11:37 am
Limer

let the bells sound
11:37 am
scribble

long time no see
11:37 am
Limer

Cuz I am a ding a ling
11:37 am
Limer

*grin*
11:37 am
scribble

haha
11:43 am
Limer

Ha
11:43 am
Limer

Nailed that Puppy!
11:43 am
Limer

Rank me, baby!
11:43 am
Limer

NO green or red
11:43 am
Limer

Cue theme music
11:43 am
Limer

My appoligies to scribble
11:44 am
Limer

For my consistency
11:44 am
Limer

^_^
11:44 am
scribble

congrats
12:07 pm
hurshy

why, it's scribbledy dibbledy!
12:08 pm
scribble

hurshy!!!!
12:08 pm
hurshy

hi scribble, how are you?
12:08 pm
scribble

great, and you?
12:08 pm
hurshy

i'm good as well. what have you been doing with your summer?
12:09 pm
scribble

being bored, wasting time, reading, the usual.
12:09 pm
hurshy

when i was your age, read and swim, that's all i did all summer
12:10 pm
scribble

i havent been able to swim very much...except at the beach
12:10 pm
hurshy

they need to invent a swimming pool with a waterproof screen so you can read ebooks
12:10 pm
scribble

yeah that would be great!
12:12 pm
hurshy

are you going on any trips?
12:13 pm
scribble

yep. on thursday we leave for warped tour in indianapolis. i get to see some of my favorite bands! yay!
12:13 pm
scribble

and we went to the beach last week
12:13 pm
hurshy

what is a warped tour? what bands will you see?
12:15 pm
scribble

warped tour is a series of concerts and there are 150+ bands there. its all punk/rock/alternative music. i'll get to see my favorite band, AFI, along with Underoath, The Pink Spiders, Thursday, Rise Against, and tons more...yay!!
12:15 pm
hurshy

and tell me, how do you feel about n sync and shania twain?
12:16 pm
scribble

hate n'sync, rap music, country....blech
12:16 pm
hurshy

just checking. i am currently surrounded by a horde of preteen girls with hideous taste in music, it's good to know there are some of you out there who know junk when they hear it
12:17 pm
scribble

amen to that
12:17 pm
hurshy

although, there is the occasional country song that catches my fancy... like... it's all right to be little bitty
12:18 pm
hurshy

course i've never heard of any of the bands you mention, but anything is better than n sync
12:18 pm
scribble

yeah i used to love alan jackson...there are a few country songs that are ok...but not many
12:19 pm
hurshy

i forget, have you met bex777 here or in babbleland?
12:19 pm
scribble

well AFI is great...dont know if they are your type or nto but they have a great range of style on all their CDs... Sing the Sorrow is my favorite
12:20 pm
scribble

never met bex777...
12:20 pm
hurshy

just wondered, she's around your age, just a smidge older... from england. i went to see her whilst on my trip.
12:22 pm
scribble

i see said the blind man
12:22 pm
hurshy

is there an AFI song you are particularly fond of?
12:23 pm
scribble

thats a hard question
12:24 pm
hurshy

hmm, sort of a cross between the beatles and simon and garfunkel
12:24 pm
hurshy

i'm listening to "the leaving song"
12:25 pm
scribble

the leaving song part 2 is great....silver and cold...and girl's not grey...
12:25 pm
scribble

love all of sing the sorrow though
12:25 pm
scribble

oh and dancing through sunday is wonderful
12:26 pm
hurshy

ok :) i'll listen to a few... napster is handy, i like that you can try a song out before you decide if you want to buy it
12:26 pm
scribble

the leaving song is good also, but it doesnt have drums/bass
12:27 pm
scribble

great :)
12:29 pm
hurshy

oh my. i prefer part one to part two.
12:29 pm
hurshy

part 2 is a bit yelly.
12:30 pm
scribble

um yeah davey screams alot.
12:30 pm
hurshy

why would he do this?
12:30 pm
scribble

dont listen to Death of Seasons if you dont like the yelling
12:31 pm
hurshy

ok. trying girl's not grey now.
12:31 pm
scribble

that ones good
12:32 pm
hurshy

i got a cute new shirt today.
12:32 pm
scribble

whats it look like?
12:33 pm
hurshy

it's white with pink edges...about the pink in your icon...and then there is a glittery green and pink butterfly on it
12:34 pm
hurshy

but i think you said you like to wear dark colors.
12:35 pm
scribble

yeah im fond of black and red...but it stills sounds nice :)
12:35 pm
hurshy

if someone puts up an away message on IM that's directly targeted at you, do you think that's a compliment, or a sign that they don't want to talk to you?
12:36 pm
scribble

it depends on what it says
12:36 pm
hurshy

it says "hello hurshy, i'm in a meeting"
12:36 pm
hurshy

how did they know i would look at it?
12:37 pm
scribble

do you talk to them alot?
12:37 pm
scribble

and it sounds nice to me...but i could be wrong
12:43 pm
hurshy

i think it's nice, i think it's funny, i sent them an LOL
12:44 pm
hurshy

but i just wanted a second opinion. i would hate to be a pest.
12:44 pm
hurshy

sorry for the delay, my network went down
12:44 pm
scribble

aww hurshys fun to talk to though!
12:45 pm
hurshy

but maybe this person would rather do other things, you never know.
12:45 pm
scribble

maybe
12:46 pm
hurshy

have you seen that geico commercial where the gecko sang "everybody was kung fu fighting"?
12:46 pm
scribble

hahaha yeah
12:47 pm
hurshy

i thought, wow, what a great song, and i went and listened to the real version on line, and i didn't like it nearly as much as when the gecko sings it. he should put out his own album.
12:49 pm
scribble

that would be hilarious...but yeah it does sound better when he sings it
12:49 pm
hurshy

i would buy it. i bought the hampsterdance CD.
12:51 pm
hurshy

do you like the show "monk"?
12:51 pm
scribble

never seen it..
12:52 pm
hurshy

it's on USA, maybe you don't get that network. used to be fridays at 10, just moved to 9. it's about an OCD detective. it's very funny.
12:52 pm
hurshy

and now they've put another new funny one on after it called "psych"
12:52 pm
hurshy

i love detectives.
12:53 pm
scribble

i dont get that channel but i'm sure my mom does
12:53 pm
hurshy

how does that work? how do you make different tv's in the same house get different channels?
12:54 pm
scribble

my mom lives a block away...have i not explained yet?
12:55 pm
hurshy

oh no, you haven't! when she would come on i thought it was funny that she would talk to you online just from downstairs or something...but i didn't think why
12:56 pm
scribble

oh well let me explain then...
12:59 pm
scribble

my mom had me when she was...16,17 i believe...and after i was born she and my biological father split up...4 years later she married my present father...and she gave me a choice...i had been living with my grandparents and she asked if i wanted to stay or go with her and my dad. i chose to stay with my grandparents, and my mom and dad recently moved into a house just down the street from us.
12:59 pm
scribble

sorry for the bad grammar
12:59 pm
hurshy

wow.
1:00 pm
scribble

yeah confusing i know.
1:00 pm
hurshy

she let you choose when you were that little?
1:01 pm
scribble

yea...i was pretty competent at 4 i suppose.
1:01 pm
hurshy

so are you going to keep on living with your grandparents?
1:03 pm
scribble

i suppose so, i've lived with them for 13 years now...i quite like it though. all of us are really close though, so to me it wouldnt be any different if i lived down the street.
1:03 pm
hurshy

scribble, i have a serious problem.
1:04 pm
scribble

what would that be?
1:05 pm
hurshy

i am addicted to milk duds.
1:05 pm
scribble

oh gosh you had me concerned for a second there. :P
1:06 pm
scribble

whats wrong with that? milk duds are nice.
1:06 pm
hurshy

oh. when i'm really sad, i don't sound like that.
1:06 pm
hurshy

yes but you know what they say... a moment on the lips, a lifetime on the hips
1:06 pm
hurshy

i definitely need to start doing my butt & thigh workout video more regularly.
1:07 pm
scribble

lol dont we all
1:07 pm
hurshy

ooh, fun, the show "psych" has a memory game, you can see how good your memory is!
1:07 pm
rlc

sorry to butt in... you should go to spin classes, they are really good for burning calories!
1:08 pm
hurshy

oh... i live out in the boondocks, there's no classes around to go to...hence, videos.
1:08 pm
hurshy

scribble you want to try the memory game?
1:09 pm
hurshy

here's the link: http://www.usanetwork.com/series/psych/games/
memorygame/index.php
1:09 pm
hurshy

i'm going to try it out.
1:09 pm
scribble

i'll give it a try
1:13 pm
scribble

oooh i got 100% right!! yay!!
1:14 pm
hurshy

go scribble! i knew you would. it's cool, you can play it again and the details change!
1:15 pm
scribble

sweet! thanks hursh :)
1:15 pm
hurshy

i didn't do so well the first time but the second time i got 100%. guess i need 14 seconds to have a good memory instead of only 7.
1:17 pm
LauraBee

....
1:18 pm
hurshy

woohoo, i got 100% again and this time i got the final question also, i'm hired!
1:18 pm
rlc

hi laurabee
1:19 pm
scribble

yay! i gotta go hursh...my gramps just got back with a VERY late lunch...jeebus im hungry...c-ya later!!
1:19 pm
hurshy

laurabee probably just marked so she'd know when she started. oh, bye scribble!
1:20 pm
LauraBee

hi rlc!!
1:20 pm
LauraBee

lol
1:20 pm
LauraBee

am I THAT read-able?
1:20 pm
hurshy

lots of people do it, that's all :)
1:21 pm
LauraBee

I have issues with all the "hard" & "expert" ones.
1:21 pm
hurshy

really? some people have tissues with them.
1:22 pm
LauraBee

lol. All my archives of my mediums & easy's are done
1:25 pm
richboy109

dam 2todays is easy!!
1:29 pm
richboy109

after my trick i dont have problems anymore
1:29 pm
rlc

whats your trick?
1:29 pm
kebek

what's your trick?
1:29 pm
kebek

:)
1:30 pm
rlc

lol
1:30 pm
richboy109

well u mite not like it
1:30 pm
richboy109

first
1:30 pm
hurshy

say, richboy, you wouldn't happen to have a trick, would you?
1:30 pm
richboy109

u gotta put in all the numbers that can go in that box
1:30 pm
richboy109

who me ??? no lol
1:31 pm
richboy109

then u gotta take out what wont be able to go there
1:31 pm
richboy109

so then u gotta look where u can find only one 3 in a row
1:31 pm
richboy109

so then u gotta look where u can find only one 3 in a row
and the three ahs 2 go there
etc
1:31 pm
richboy109

so then u gotta look where u can find only one 3 in a row
and the three ahs 2 go there
1:31 pm
hurshy

richboy, that's not a trick! that's just the most tedious way to do sudoku!
1:32 pm
rlc

are you just joking?
1:32 pm
richboy109

well it helps me alott
1:32 pm
kebek

i do that many times, and they're still not always easy!
1:32 pm
richboy109

and i havent had any problems since
1:32 pm
hurshy

lol, no offense intended richboy
1:32 pm
richboy109

do it on paper
1:32 pm
richboy109

with big boxes
1:33 pm
kebek

ok :)
1:33 pm
richboy109

none taken hurshy!
1:33 pm
richboy109

and whatever is usedalready u can shade in
1:33 pm
richboy109

so i have lots of black boxes
1:33 pm
richboy109

u have 2 see it to understand better
1:34 pm
hurshy

richboy you do know you can mark with little numbers right on here, you don't need a paper with big boxes
1:35 pm
richboy109

like i said its easier 2 do on paper
1:35 pm
richboy109

and yes u can press shift for green and ctrl for red
1:36 pm
hurshy

okey dokey, so long as you know-key
1:36 pm
richboy109

im talking more for the harder ones u shud do it on paper because u can have like 5 different choices per box
1:36 pm
richboy109

bt the easier one like easey and medium u can do on the computer
1:36 pm
hurshy

you can have as many as you want here too
1:37 pm
richboy109

i no
1:37 pm
hurshy

and if you want more puzzles, try www.websudoku.com.
1:37 pm
richboy109

but its harder to tell with 6 numbers in a box
1:38 pm
specificity

or... one of my favorites... http://www.samurai-sudoku.com/ :D
1:39 pm
richboy109

all this talking made me screw up on an expert!!ol
1:39 pm
kebek

oh dang, that's huge!
1:40 pm
richboy109

yeh
1:58 pm
hurshy

folks might also enjoy sikaku puzzles, they're a newer puzzle (here's hoping doc makes a sikaku website)
1:59 pm
mg_cristi

hello
1:59 pm
richboy109

ney
2:00 pm
richboy109

*h
2:04 pm
richboy109

yesterdays expert is maad easy
2:13 pm
kebek

hurshy, where do you find sikaku puzzles? i found one website that's in austrian, i believe...
2:15 pm
hurshy

kebek, you can do the puzzles on there if you read the directions on wikipedia, or google can translate the (german) page for you
2:16 pm
hurshy

they haven't really caught on like sudoku yet...i hope they will so we can get more of them.
2:17 pm
kebek

oh, i figured out what to do. green is good :)
2:19 pm
hurshy

well, forest green is good. olive green is bad.
2:19 pm
richboy109

wuts sikaku
2:19 pm
kebek

haha, ok true.
2:19 pm
richboy109

i cant get on its blocked
2:19 pm
richboy109

game playing
2:23 pm
kebek

you have to draw rectangles on a grid that has numbers on it, and each rectangle must contain one number and have the area of the number inside it.
2:24 pm
richboy109

o ok
3:17 pm
hurshy

btwrt, you there?
3:35 pm
richboy109

im here lol
3:41 pm
kadmon76

astrid says "kloom"
3:41 pm
kadmon76

yaron says" yeah baby!!!"
3:41 pm
btwrt

hey chica - i've been in and out, and now i'm out again, gotta put the deposit on my apt :) i'll ttyl ok?
3:41 pm
richboy109

ok...
3:41 pm
btwrt

(chica = hurshy, sorry about that)
3:44 pm
hurshy

ok...sent you an email...but you probably won't see this post, lol
4:21 pm
helenkeller

go
4:23 pm
hurshy

there goes the other one!
4:23 pm
hurshy

should we go after 'em?
4:23 pm
hurshy

well we can't have them gallivanting up there like kangaroos, can we now?
4:26 pm
hurshy

*helen is unfazed*
4:27 pm
Stephanie

What are all you babble players doing here?? Today is my first day to log on this game. I play babble under the name StephieC. How do you know if you are right? Would someone kind of explain this to me?
4:28 pm
hurshy

well stephanie, dr. god runs both sites, so he told all the babblers about this site when he started it.
4:28 pm
hurshy

when you finish a puzzle correctly, it will tell you you're done.
4:28 pm
elara6

Welcome to Sudoku :)
4:28 pm
hurshy

the rules of the game are explained in the "help" section above
4:28 pm
Stephanie

Can I ask for clues like on Babble?
4:28 pm
hurshy

oh yes, that too :) welcome indeed
4:29 pm
hurshy

you can, stephanie, and you are in luck, for i am the purveyor of Super Duper Coded Hurshy Clues
4:30 pm
Stephanie

Okay then, how do I ask for a clue for the first square?
4:30 pm
hurshy

you just did
4:30 pm
hurshy

but are you sure you want a clue already?
4:30 pm
hurshy

have you placed any numbers yet?
4:30 pm
Stephanie

lol :)
4:31 pm
hurshy

you don't have to do them in order.
4:31 pm
hurshy

in fact the odds of ever being able to do the squares in order must be astronomical.
4:31 pm
Stephanie

I copied this down on paper earlier this morning. I have been working on and off all day. It is beginning to drive me crazy!
4:31 pm
hurshy

oh ok then
4:31 pm
hurshy

i will now compose your super duper clue
4:32 pm
helenkeller

i do the squares in order, doesn't everyone do them in order from left to right, top to bottom, isn't that how you play this game?
4:32 pm
hurshy

now helen, behave
4:32 pm
helenkeller

seriously
4:33 pm
helenkeller

oh, ok, not seriously, more like bwa-ha-ha
4:33 pm
helenkeller

oh no, not unfazed - just not here, tending to dogs, on & off - frisky today :)
4:33 pm
hurshy

the first square is the number of states in the US divided by the number of fingers on a normal human hand plus the number that's a crowd minus the number of players on a side in baseball
4:34 pm
Stephanie

Thankks. I'll see what I can get with that! Great clueing!!
4:35 pm
elara6

I think that's the first time I've witnessed a super duper hurshy clue. Pretty neat. :)
4:35 pm
hurshy

see cluing in sudoku is different because it's much more of a big deal for someone to see a clue if they don't want to. so this is my way around it... some people set up temporary web pages to tell someone the number they want, but i am not that tech savvy.
4:36 pm
helenkeller

lol - that's a great way to do it - this way if i really want the clue then i g=can get it & if i don't - well, then i lose interest after trying to figure out what a normal hand is - i say 2 pair ,lol
4:37 pm
hoaf

Question 'bout red and green marks: How do you use them in your solving process (those who aren't 1337 enough to do the puzzles without marking something down)?
4:37 pm
hurshy

exactly. sort of.
4:37 pm
hoaf

I know how to get them and I have my own use for 'em, but I'm just curious ...
4:37 pm
hurshy

well hoaf, people general mark the possibles and then look for naked pairs, triples, etc.
4:38 pm
hurshy

*generally
4:38 pm
hoaf

Yeah, I do the same thing, but is there any particular method that'd require two colors, or is it just a preference thing?
4:39 pm
hurshy

if you have a really hard one, hoaf, and you need to use a forcing chain (ie guess and see if the guess leads to an impossibility) then it's nice to use the other color to mark the trail of your guess
4:40 pm
hoaf

Alrighty. I usually, er, use the red to mark the pairs/triples and the greens for the rest of the options.
4:40 pm
hoaf

As I said, jes' curious. :^)
4:41 pm
hurshy

don't mention curiosity around us cats, please *shudder*
4:41 pm
hoaf

Curiousity is what one of my cats stuck in the sofa springs.
4:41 pm
hoaf

Ick.
4:42 pm
hurshy

*puzzled*
4:42 pm
hurshy

have i mentioned sikaku lately :) :)
4:42 pm
hoaf

What exactly is sikaku, again? I missed the earlier conversation.
4:42 pm
hoaf

I'm a fan of Kakuro, myself.
4:43 pm
hurshy

it's another fun type of puzzle. as the commercial would say, if there were a commercial, "if you like sudoku, you'll love sikaku!"
4:43 pm
hoaf

Where could I find an example?
4:43 pm
hurshy

sikaku has a grid of squares, some of which have numbers in them. you have to draw a box around each number, and the area of the box must be the number that is in the box.
4:43 pm
hurshy

google sikaku.
4:44 pm
hoaf

Er, yeah.
4:44 pm
hurshy

there's a german site with 50 puzzles, but they are kind of a new thing so there aren't a ton of other puzzles out there
4:44 pm
hurshy

does "Er, yeah." mean, "oh, i should have thought of that" or "what the heck is google?"
4:45 pm
Stephanie

Thanks for that clue Hurshy. I have successfully completed today's puzzle!!! I am so proud that I only had one clue!!! I just started working these in our newspaper last week.
4:45 pm
hurshy

congrats stephanie! *shakes hand*
4:45 pm
hoaf

I'm just figuring out to use the cupholder on the front of my computer ... so it's all new to me.
4:46 pm
hurshy

aha, hoaf. www.google.com is a delightful thing called a search engine. you can use it to search for just about anything.
4:46 pm
hoaf

Shweet! :^)
4:46 pm
hurshy

*wonders if she can purchase a cupholder accessory for her computer*
4:47 pm
hoaf

Heh heh.
4:47 pm
hurshy

how is it you managed to get yourself an icon, being so new at computer things?
4:48 pm
hurshy

you must just be a good follower des instructions
4:48 pm
hoaf

http://www.snopes.com/humor/business/wordperf
.htm
4:49 pm
hoaf

Actually, the hard part was finding a *decent* icon (of course, your definition of decent might be different from mine).
4:50 pm
hurshy

so, hoaf, i am confused. you seem very computer savvy.
4:51 pm
hoaf

I know how to use 'em most of the time. Part of my job. :^)
4:52 pm
hurshy

well then why'd you make me think you'd never heard of google? :)
4:52 pm
hoaf

The cuphold comment seemed to do the trick. :^D
4:52 pm
hurshy

yes, it did, but the question was WHY, not HOW
4:53 pm
hoaf

I didn't mean to, actually -- I just rolled with the punches.
4:53 pm
hoaf

Sorry 'bout that.
4:53 pm
hurshy

you are quite the punch roller. i have rolled all the way down the hill and am dripping with red.
4:53 pm
hurshy

punch, not blood, is the red.
4:54 pm
hoaf

Red's a good flavor.
4:54 pm
hoaf

Of Kool Aid (tm), that is.
4:54 pm
hurshy

natch
4:55 pm
hoaf

Right now I'm trying to ween myself off of using pencil marks. Tough job.
4:58 pm
hurshy

but worthwhile. so much more fun without them.
4:59 pm
hurshy

except on the experts, on this site, where most people tend to need them.
4:59 pm
hoaf

Yeah ... I'm working on a medium right now. :^P
5:02 pm
elara6

That's it for me tonight (and I admit to using greens at the very end there. :) ) Have a good evening, folks. :)
5:03 pm
hurshy

cheerio, ducks. think i'll kick back with some law and order myself.
5:03 pm
shutterbug

hi hurshy
7:03 pm
kayla276

hi
7:10 pm
evanadine

this one is a toughie tonight!!
8:14 pm
Twin C

anyone working on this? i can't crack it.
8:19 pm
kneestabber

I'm still working on it. I seem to be thouroughly stuck right now.
9:03 pm
chrissie2006

I couldn't get yesterdays Expert one! I tried for a really long time but kept screwin up!
9:58 pm
knightmarish

i think i just hit a wall
10:14 pm
Syrdarya

The same thing happened to me, chrissie!
10:55 pm
hokie carla

i'm working on yesterday's expert right now. today's actually went pretty fast for me. faster than the more recent "easy" ones & faster than any medium I've ever done on here.
11:12 pm
Twinkie

hokie, i see you are from nc. i am too!
11:15 pm
hokie carla

hello! night owl like me? Are you from NC? I am from VA originally.
11:15 pm
Twinkie

i'm originally from ca. am taking a break from homework!
11:16 pm
Twinkie

have 2 reports and two short essays due tomorrow. it was a one-week intensive class (3 credit hours)
11:16 pm
hokie carla

aha. so are you at duke? (not really up on the locations of those NC schools)
11:17 pm
Twinkie

no, actually, i'm getting my teaching credential at central. but i used to teach at duke (was a college prof) and my hubby works at duke (in computers/med center). whereabouts are you, and what's keeping you up? :)
11:18 pm
hokie carla

I see. oh, you are actually older than I am. hehe. I'm in Charlotte. just stay up late most nights.
11:19 pm
Twinkie

are you a yung'un? ;-) I'm not too old...will be 37 next month
11:20 pm
hokie carla

oh, no. I'm 33, so not much younger than you.
11:21 pm
Twinkie

we're just night owls (or you're a night turkey)
11:22 pm
hokie carla

yep. I'm going to be hurtin in about a month when I have one starting kindergarten and we have to get up early!
11:22 pm
Twinkie

how exciting! will this be the first one off to school?
11:23 pm
hokie carla

uh-huh. he's been in preschool for 4 years, though.
11:26 pm
Twinkie

finally filled in all the green. now on to seeing what i can eliminate...
11:26 pm
hokie carla

are you working on today's?
11:26 pm
Twinkie

yeah, didn't have a chance til now
11:27 pm
hokie carla

it really did go unusually fast for me & I only used greens sparingly.
11:28 pm
Twinkie

it depends on my brain. right now i'm really tired so it's easier to just fill in mindlessly and knock off ones that are obvious
11:29 pm
hokie carla

yes. someone's (hurshy, maybe) #1 rule: don't do these when you're tired.
11:29 pm
Twinkie

i think i messed up--good rule to follow for that precise reason!
11:30 pm
Twinkie

D'oh! yep, i'll have to restart. do this one over tomorrow when i'm not tired.
11:30 pm
hokie carla

good luck
11:30 pm
hokie carla

going back to checkpoint on my expert
11:31 pm
Twinkie

thanks! i think i'm off to bed and will get up early to finish my work. i finished the two presentations (prepping for them) and will write my short paragrahps tomorrow
11:31 pm
Twinkie

which expert?
11:31 pm
hokie carla

yesterday's
11:31 pm
Twinkie

that one went pretty easy for me.
11:31 pm
hokie carla

good luck with your homework, too!
11:31 pm
Twinkie

i have an old expert (march 24) that i've never been able to do
11:31 pm
Twinkie

ty! :D
11:32 pm
Twinkie

good luck w/ yesterday's! see you around online!
11:32 pm
hokie carla

well, it started much easier than I was expecting for an expert, but then it just stopped cold.
11:32 pm
hokie carla

see you!
11:33 pm
Twinkie

actually, i may have had to guess on one or two. i believe there's no shame in that :-P
11:33 pm
Twinkie

on yesterdays, that is
11:33 pm
Twinkie

so anyway, it's not that easy--it's just that i guessed. good luck!
11:34 pm
hokie carla

well, I am trying some different things (some may call that guessing), but no break-throughs yet. will try Sat.'s & come back to this one later.
11:38 pm
Playwoman

I thought that one was easier than the last "easy" one!