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Difficulty: Hard Tuesday, July 18, 2006

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CHAT LOG for Tuesday, July 18, 2006

12:14 am
sprite

Lol, monologues of Limer, part 1. The early years...
12:18 am
raggedyandy3478

haha, morning sprite
12:18 am
sprite

Hey andy, morning :)
12:19 am
sprite

I had a blazingly fast start and then: brick wall. How are you doing?
12:19 am
mab

...fade to black. hi andy, sprite :)
12:19 am
sprite

Hi mab :)
12:19 am
raggedyandy3478

same deal, mornin mab
12:25 am
Krys10

hi everyone!
12:26 am
sprite

Krys! :) Morning to you *hug*
12:26 am
Krys10

*hugs* back. how've you been?
12:26 am
sprite

Doing relatively well. And you?
12:27 am
raggedyandy3478

hey Krys, haven't seen you in quite a while
12:27 am
Krys10

lots going on - closed down my business, cat medical crisis happened etc
12:28 am
sprite

Wow, that sounds pretty intense. Are you holding up?
12:28 am
raggedyandy3478

ill say
12:28 am
Krys10

was pretty much a wreck until things settled down a few days ago. cat started eating just yesterday, so it's too soon to say whether she's in teh clear. business closing down and office move-out went fine.
12:29 am
Krys10

much better today than last week, thanks for checking in :)
12:29 am
sprite

((((Krys))))
I hope your cat will be a little better every day now. Eating certainly will help and it is a good sign.
12:30 am
Krys10

yup, hope so. this is after about six weeks of eating practically nothing, so she's skin and bones but seems like herself, personality-wise.
12:31 am
Krys10

I have a kitty icon on my laptop somewhere - I should switch...
12:31 am
sprite

Also a very good sign. If she acts herself, she probably feels like herself again as well.
12:32 am
Krys10

there she is :)
12:32 am
Krys10

I'm way behind on archives - this seems like the first non-easy in a while, no?
12:32 am
sprite

Awwwww... beautiful! Some look she's got there.
12:33 am
sprite

Correct, we had a load of easy ones, with some medium. Nothing really interesting. This one is giving me trouble, though.
12:33 am
Krys10

it seems rather.. dense.
12:33 am
sprite

I have a question for my kakuro-muse: can a kakuro have 2 possible solutions?
12:34 am
raggedyandy3478

wats kakuro?
12:34 am
Krys10

I don't think so.. at least I've never seen any that do. I don't check answers, though, I just make sure the one I've done works correctly but I don't consult the solutions in the back of the magazine :)
12:34 am
Grendel

its a variation on sudoku
12:34 am
raggedyandy3478

links?
12:34 am
sprite

another number puzzle, a little more complicated than sudoku. Also very much fun.
12:35 am
Krys10

it's another kind of number puzzle, involves some arithmetic as well as sudoku-type logic
12:35 am
Krys10

hang on for links
12:35 am
mab

she's lovely Krys10. You probably know that it's very rare to find an orange or tan female? Eating is a very good sign.

12:35 am
raggedyandy3478

well then, lets go ahead and get me addicted to another puzzle
12:35 am
Grendel

heh
12:35 am
Krys10

http://www.kakuro.com/index.php#daily
http://
www.divingforbananas.com/kakuro/daily.php
12:35 am
sprite

I had one with 2 possibles. I wondered if that was a faulty puzzle, or if it is no problem as it would be with sudoku.
12:36 am
Krys10

THanks Mab. I did know that red cats are typically female. The vet tech at one of the hospitals called her "one in a million"
12:36 am
Krys10

Sprite, there are kakuro solvers for small puzzles (10x10 or smaller) online that may help you to figure out if two solutions are valid
12:36 am
Grendel

hunt the wumpus
12:36 am
Krys10

or you can send it to me and see what I come up with :)
12:37 am
sprite

I'll see if I can get my scanner back to life and then post a pic on the web. I'll let you know :)
12:37 am
Grendel

GAA! that first kakuro link crashed my browser :P no save points
12:37 am
Krys10

ick, sorry grendel
12:38 am
Grendel

dang flash
12:38 am
sprite

Got to go now, kids to feed, medication to take, things like that. Have a great day, all of you :)
12:38 am
sprite

And good thoughts and prayers for you and kitty, Krys.
12:39 am
Krys10

bye sprite! glad to run into you. let me know about that muliple-solution kakuro - I'm intrigued :)
12:40 am
Krys10

andy, I bet you'd like kakuro - math geek and all :)
12:41 am
raggedyandy3478

i have a feeling i will too, mind explaining the rules to me while i work on this sudoku?
12:42 am
Krys10

sure! the number to the left of a row tells you the sum of the digits in that row. the number above a column tells you the sum of the digits in that column
12:42 am
Krys10

digit zero is not allowed, and repeated digits within a set of digits is not allowed
12:43 am
raggedyandy3478

but of course there are tons of combinations, and good amount of logic
12:43 am
raggedyandy3478

i like the sound of it
12:43 am
Krys10

that's it, i think. basic strategy is to see what sums have a unique combination. 3, for instance, can only be 1+2 or 2+1. 4 can only be 1+3 or 3+1. Thus, if a 3 and 4 cross, the square they have in common must be a 1
12:43 am
Krys10

etc
12:44 am
Krys10

for some numbers there's only one combination. check this out:
http://www.tellmehowto.net/kakuro/combin
ations.php
12:45 am
raggedyandy3478

you realize when i get addicted to this kakuro, i will blame you. haha
12:45 am
Krys10

that's fine, I can take it :P
12:45 am
Marzipan

Ow, that one was tough.
12:46 am
raggedyandy3478

lol, krys, marz, ur good, im not even halfway done
12:46 am
Marzipan

Or maybe I've just gotten really used to the easy ones lately..
12:47 am
lawfully

done... I'm going to try kakuro... sounds interesting
12:47 am
Krys10

have fun !
12:48 am
Marzipan

I've been wondering what that game is all about, too. But I'll have to check it out after getting some sleep.
12:48 am
Marzipan

Good night, everyone. Have fun. :)
12:48 am
Krys10

marzipan, your icon is spooky!
12:50 am
Marzipan

It's made out of marzipan. I think it's adorable. ;)
12:50 am
Krys10

I guess. makes me think of a snowball screaming in agony :)
12:50 am
Krys10

but if it's marzipan, it must be good!
12:51 am
Krys10

sorry, meant no offense. 'night!
12:51 am
Marzipan

None taken. ;)
12:52 am
Marzipan

My spooky snowball and I are going to bed now. Take care. :)
12:52 am
Krys10

you too.
1:04 am
bzikofski

morning, coffee sudoku
1:05 am
raggedyandy3478

ah, done
1:06 am
sprite

Guess I'd better do the shopping now, and not wait until it is too hot to move today. Back for this nasty sudoku later. I filled the left middle box, almost finished the middle 3 rows and put in some other numbers. After that: nowhere to go at all.
1:06 am
Krys10

so far I've used intersections (only column/block, I think) and hidden pairs
1:06 am
Krys10

along with the usual bag of tricks
1:07 am
sprite

Guess I am blind to the hidden pairs today. All I see are quartets, quintets and worse. But when I get back, I will give it a serious shot. Can't concentrate with kids around.
1:07 am
raggedyandy3478

i can honestly say that one was tough, and since it is 2 AM here i doubt I will do much in the way of kakuro tonight, but i will make my best attempt
1:08 am
raggedyandy3478

gnight to all
1:08 am
sprite

Night andy :)
1:08 am
Krys10

goodnight to you!
1:09 am
sprite

Can I whine for a second? My washing machine crashed again! I HATE it when that happens.
1:09 am
Krys10

what a bummer! especially when it's the washer - all those wet mucky clothes to deal wtih
1:09 am
Krys10

i'm amused that we use the term crash to refer to things that aren't mobile, now that we are all computer-centric :)
1:10 am
Krys10

either that or your washing machine has been very naught!
1:10 am
augurus

Er, way to go diction!
1:10 am
Krys10

naughty! i mean. taking the car without permission and all.
1:11 am
sprite

Exactly. I will confess: I used my neighbour's centrifuge and now the filthy stuff is in the dryer. Better dry and dirty than wet and dirty, if I have to keep it a few days.

Lol, I wasn't sure about the correct word, so I thought 'crashed' would be understood, even if wrong ;)
1:12 am
sprite

Ok, really off now, back later. Have fun ;)
1:12 am
Krys10

good luck, sounds like a hassle
1:13 am
Krys10

done. not so bad after I found a hidden pair. off to the archives!
1:31 am
augurus

'Crashed' sounds like the appropriate verb for that situation. We've come to adapt the verb 'crash' for any sort of mechanical mishap to describe the sort of wreck left in its awake, akin to that of a car crash. By the way, way to go on ruining the movie with the opening line Don Cheadle.
1:54 am
lcobb02

what is a hidden pair?
1:58 am
sprite

Back :)
A hidden pair is when there are lots of possibles, but in a certain row/block/column there are 2 numbers that only can go on 2 (the same) tiles. That means that on those 2 tiles no other numbers can occur but those 2 numbers. And in that same row/block/column those 2 numbers cannot occur on another tile.
2:00 am
sprite

http://angusj.com/sudoku/hints.php
is very informative. Scroll down a bit to find the hidden pairs explanation.
2:34 am
sprite

Finally done. Interesting one today :)
5:11 am
Jencatd

Hiya everyone. :)
6:02 am
David Mitchell

Good morning, folks.
7:13 am
peternl

hi all
7:17 am
MaW

argh
7:17 am
MaW

can't get my head round this one :-(
7:18 am
peternl

it starts easy, but then slows down a lot
7:18 am
peternl

maybe watching highlander will help ;-)
7:19 am
MaW

maybe I should have some lunch!
7:23 am
Jencatd

*fires up Daily Sudoku's Sudoku grid* This should help me a bit with this. ^^; It's here if you want to lay this out on a different grid and experiment with moves: http://www.dailysudoku.co.uk/sudoku/play.shtm
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7:34 am
Jencatd

Done. :)
7:35 am
peternl

pretty straight forward
7:35 am
peternl

one locked tripple and that was it
7:55 am
yul

hello
7:57 am
MaW

I'm still stuck
7:58 am
MaW

But I did go and get some lunch in the mean time
8:04 am
MaW

right. Starting over again as I'm convinced there's a mistake in there somewhere
8:20 am
Cerberus

Hi
8:21 am
yul

it's boiling in london today, i can not see straight
8:28 am
Cerberus

it's so difficult
8:30 am
MaW

Totally stumped again!
8:30 am
MaW

i can't even guess, because to do that with this one I need multiple checkpoints :-(
8:37 am
yul

you have red
8:38 am
yul

illiminate impossibles
8:44 am
MaW

red doesn't work for me
8:44 am
yul

why
8:45 am
yul

if it's not a secret
9:04 am
btwrt

still there, yul?
9:05 am
yul

yes :) not too quick today
9:05 am
btwrt

aww :D i'm still working on yesterday's easy, because i couldn't finish it yesterday ... i have not yet seen the scary 'hard' which is today's
9:06 am
yul

it is not too bad so far...
9:07 am
yul

i still digging up some numbers without 'greening'
9:07 am
btwrt

oh good
9:08 am
yul

:)
9:19 am
yul

found a 2!
9:20 am
yul

and another :D
9:25 am
richboy109

dam lol
9:36 am
richboy109

dis is hawd
9:38 am
Twinkie

i had to guess on a couple
9:38 am
Twinkie

but i'm done
9:38 am
Twinkie

:)
9:38 am
richboy109

lucky!
9:40 am
yul

done. no green or red used. good luck all have a nice day
9:40 am
Twinkie

actually, on my first guess i was wrong, so i went back to my last checkpoint and did the second alternative, which was right. then i got to another stopping point and checkpointed, then guessed on one. that one was wrong too, so i went back to the checkpoint and did the other one, which was right.
9:41 am
yul

that is illiminating impossibles :) in my terminology :))
9:42 am
richboy109

i gave up going 2 archives
9:49 am
btwrt

yay for yul! good job :D
9:58 am
blueskies29

hey all!
9:58 am
richboy109

heyers
9:59 am
blueskies29

hey richboy! how's it going today?
9:59 am
richboy109

pretty good and urself?
10:00 am
blueskies29

it's a little cooler than yesterday so i'm enjoying my day a bit more.
10:01 am
richboy109

lol i agree over here it was over 100
10:03 am
blueskies29

we were close to that. of course, work doesn't have a/c and when you add in the humidity it felt like over 100
10:04 am
richboy109

dam where do you work?
10:04 am
blueskies29

work in a public school.
10:04 am
richboy109

i work in an office
10:05 am
blueskies29

ahh with a/c lucky boy!!! anyways, time to get back to work :( have a good one!
10:06 am
richboy109

ttfn
10:35 am
richboy109

almost lunch time
12:51 pm
richboy109

lunch time!
1:08 pm
richboy109

i cant do it can someone help me ?
1:41 pm
sandbox74

had to restart once.. but everything fell into place after that
2:50 pm
TP17

when trying to save, I got:

Somethin' ain't right. Hopefully Dr_God's on the case
2:50 pm
TP17

when trying to save, I got:

Somethin' ain't right. Hopefully Dr_God's on the case
2:50 pm
TP17

when trying to save, I got:

Somethin' ain't right. Hopefully Dr_God's on the case
2:50 pm
TP17

when trying to save, I got:

Somethin' ain't right. Hopefully Dr_God's on the case
2:50 pm
TP17

when trying to save, I got:

Somethin' ain't right. Hopefully Dr_God's on the case

2:50 pm
TP17

sorry
3:01 pm
RodeoRogue

this hard ones give me a headache
3:04 pm
TP17

There was one naked triple that once I saw it, everything worked itself out
3:28 pm
chebuctonian

hi all. yay! a hard one :)
4:01 pm
helenkeller

go
7:36 pm
caderoux

seems harder than hard...
7:40 pm
caderoux

then it all drops out
7:51 pm
David Mitchell

I'm still deep in the "missing something" stage
8:03 pm
blueskies29

back to try again.... hi all!
8:06 pm
tuco

TP are you still here?
8:27 pm
David Mitchell

Think I found it!
8:34 pm
David Mitchell

Shore did. :)
9:52 pm
Sky_mia

hello
10:31 pm
Twin C

anyone working on this?
11:25 pm
chrissie2006

Im having trouble with this one
11:25 pm
chrissie2006

big time
11:38 pm
spazzy

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NOOOOO
11:56 pm
chrissie2006

yay, got it on my third or forth try. But I can't take any credit because there was A LOT of guessing going on